Leave the Body to Get Answers

Why am I or others unable to get clarity or more communication during the dream state? Why do we need to leave the body?

Originally posted by electricalpup
Why am I or others unable to get clarity or more communication during the dream state? Why do we need to leave the body?

I suggest writing the dreams down right after you wake up when its fresh. Then comparing that over time. Many messages come in the dream state and the mind adds in information it does not have. Leaving the body ensures that the mind does not interfere with said message.

Originally posted by truthseeker10
can you explain more about the table, i would love to hear more. pm me if you want.

The table is reserved for above to speak to ones here who are not ready or cannot come all the way above. It is pure in color. Many times you will be there and can see the other person speaking but sometimes you will not, if you are not ready as of yet. It is situated closer to home than it is here. There is only a table and chairs so you stay focused on the message and not your surroundings.

are you reading my mind?? you just posted a thread that i was going to ask you about earlier

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Father does not override Mother. Mother is Prime Creator and since Mother's energy is Equality and Unconditional Love, Christ and Sophia energy, she and Father are Equal, and United. This Universe is Mother's Womb to be born from. That happens when we freely choose, to Love, Strive To Help One Another, No Longer Retaliate, and Value Equality and Abuandance For All.

Originally posted by Unity_99
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Father does not override Mother. Mother is Prime Creator and since Mother's energy is Equality and Unconditional Love, Christ and Sophia energy, she and Father are Equal, and United. This Universe is Mother's Womb to be born from.

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Father does override Mother when it comes to operational parameters, especially if it is not of the female pairs. They are equal, and him and her was there before man, Jesus, or the angels were created. Father has spoken to me on this many times.

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You are not awake yet, or understanding. No Father does not overrride Mother, the fake demiurge, SATURN tried to overtake the Sun and suppress the equality. Mother IS TRULY PRIME CREATOR. Not the fake patriarchal system. Her Twin Flame or Soul Mate Is Father our real Spiritual Father, who is only Humble of Heart and Kind, Love, Goodness, not the fake Father we have here. That is Saturn. A mere dot in the Universe that Mom created. But this womb where we become by learning love is HER CREATION.

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But this womb where we become by learning love is HER CREATION.

Correct, in learning love. All human emotions comes from mother, and they return back to her when death reaches the body.

I have been to the city of common ground.twice. Souls are not supposed to be there before death that is the impression I got. The first time I was welcomed and worked for a time. The second time the souls asked me where I had been and tried to get me to stay. The third time the soldiers blocked my entry, I distinctly remember how angry I was which was a tell tale sign I had not reached because had I reached no feeling or emotion would have been possible. I have never seen this table you speak of. The city as you call it is for those who passed on or may need reassuring of their importance.

As far as questions these seemed useless in that realm. If you have made it as far as you claim you should know you are only given what you need. And when you do get answers real answers they are not words they are perception and action altering. It is as if you've downloaded a program and it runs rewriting your entire OS. If you are on the right track and not behind in aspects this type of experience will do little for you as you don't need much right now.

reply to post by ISHAMAGI

If you have made it as far as you claim you should know you are only given what you need.

I am allowed in the temple. I posted the OP for others in trying to get answers.

And when you do get answers real answers they are not words they are perception and action altering. It is as if you've downloaded a program and it runs rewriting your entire OS.

This is of truth. Or, you are shown like a movie what you need to do or accomplish to move forward.

You have your memory of these things. Can you see here on Earth, the others?

What I want to know is when I'm gonna get off this planet. Don't get me wrong I love this planet just not the people who pollute and endanger the animals and us. I am though afriad of what I might encounter if I leave the body. I'm too paranoid on getting attacked by some entity. I feel the need for some Chakra Healing feeling a little unbalanced. So hopefully I can relax, focus and eventually one day be able to get out of my body and fly to another beautiful world. Meet our ancestors

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Second time I've posted this today!

Just putting a bit of scientific research towards your theory, what you experience is a '___' trip. I'm not saying that your experiences are fake, in fact '___' and the pineal gland have been considered 'the seat of the soul' and a portal to the afterlife for thousands of years, also It is the last bit of our brain that is active at the time of death. '___' release is possible through meditation and you seem to have described the correct method for inducing this.

I hope you find Dr. Strassmans research useful in understanding your experiiences.

The way of the Shaman i feel is the safest way to go about what your referring to, best brought about by an impending half madness, known blandly as a "spiritual emergency". A process by which your psyche shatters, breaks, deforms, and forces you to see it in whatever way suits you.

After which you suffer in this state for many years, sometimes more or less, until the time comes to accept what happened, accept what you have seen, and stitch yourself back together. Only then does the seeker have ability to withstand unknown influence when working in realms virtually unexplainable. Many cultures require that seers at the beginning an end of this madness be guided and given initiatory rituals, but to an extent the internet can help the good willed seeker immensely. the rituals and guidance are more tools of reinforcement, tools to help strengthen your personal affirmations and metaphors within your own mind.

The key, to starting this is in the process you speak of.

"Show the soul a hidden light,
forever will life never again be right."

Anybody daring to do these types of things has to remember, knowing yourself with a realistic foundation can be the difference between actually gleaming metaphorical knowledge from the other place, or fooling yourself with physical feelings and the sight within your imagination and not decoding the information that was gifted to you. Or even worse which is taking fantastical visions literally!

My point is like the one the OP made, the table is metaphorical. Technically speaking if you have the capacity you can develop your own mental metaphors that serve as tools for your access to the higher!

good thread OP just wanted to contribute!! This is all of course simply my opinion and my perspective on the subject.

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I understand the point of your OP yet even following directions it is not as easy as you make it seem. Monks meditate for 10+ years daily to get to the place you speak of.

I remember well because I am describing some of the most important events of my life. I was blocked only 3 days ago and am finishing my recovery from the journey. Can I see the others? I'm assuming by others you mean the ones that travel in that realm but walk among us, no. There is a barrier those that can see when not in a meditative state are usually damaged and here considered schizophrenic or worse because our physical brain is not up to the task of reconciling these things.

What if i dont believe in jesus? Hmm?

reply to post by ISHAMAGI

I understand the point of your OP yet even following directions it is not as easy as you make it seem. Monks meditate for 10+ years daily to get to the place you speak of.

Correct. But, it is a starting point for some. I do not expect anyone to get it on the first try. But, for the ones who are deemed necessary by above, they will pull you out. This is not the case for all though.

Can I see the others? I'm assuming by others you mean the ones that travel in that realm but walk among us, no.

Not those spirits, but the soldiers and the others from all the way above that are here.

There is a barrier those that can see when not in a meditative state are usually damaged and here considered schizophrenic or worse because our physical brain is not up to the task of reconciling these things.

Actually, you would be surprised how many people can see. I can recognize them on demand, because when they see me, they have a strong reaction that is not hidden.

reply to post by POPtheKlEEN89

Or even worse which is taking fantastical visions literally!

Yes, because the mind will add in somethings, or the imagery not of this world will be so different. Many people see in which is easier for their mind to accept.

I once knew a person that seen "angels" (I really do not like using that term), as mermaids.

I've been practicing lucid dreaming for years. I can do it whenever. I never had to write down my dreams because my memory is pretty well. . I'm a Christian so I don't know if I should get into all this but here's a weird dream I had.

I'm writing this on my android so bear with me.

I realize that I am dreaming. I came to and was kinda floating around this big circular desk. A few seconds later I was no longer floating and now I am in a body and I can move around. I'm still by this big circle desk. I look up and I see 3things of what Im going to try to describe. These 3 things were like slits in the ceiling, although they looked like the were alive.. like if you cut yourself right now it would look alive. I could sense that 1 of the 3 slits were bad. I think the middle gave me neither a bad or good feeling so I guess its nuetrall by default. The last slot was good looking and gave me a good feeling. There was an old man sitting in a chair right under these 3 things I don't think he said anything.

I felt like I needed to choose one of these slits and ascend into it. I didn't want to go in without knowing what I was getting into and at this moment I looked around. This is what the place liked like. It was a plain older looking brick building. I don't remember any windows, but I remember 2 doors, maybe bathrooms? I see tables and chairs like in a restaurant.. like a Booth. There are many of these everywhere. I think I remember plants hanging on the walls and the ligh of the place was coming from a glass ceiling I see people scattered around, not too many ppl here. I see a group of middle aged looking people. Like 2 girls and a boy if my m
emory serves my right. I went over and sat down. I asked what is this place and what are y'all doing here. I don't remember any of them answering and I think they kinda ignored me. About this time I started to hear my fan in my room so I knew I was waking up. It fades and I wake up.


Again.. this was types on my android and I'm on lunch break at work trying to type this fast as possible. So was my dream another realm or was it just a dream u think? Also. Is this father u speak of the father of Christianity?

Leaving the body doesnt have anything to do with organized religion.

Originally posted by Bodhi911

Leaving the body doesnt have anything to do with organized religion.

yeah its just organized religion's way of keeping us from the truth.