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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
The earth is warming. However, Mars is warming, Venus is warming, all of the planets are warming. Is man responsible for all of it? The sun is warming the planets. We have some, miniscule, effect. The sun is doing way more than we ever could. Man is not THE problem. Put down the koolaid.
Here are three not-so trivial questions you probably won’t find in your next pub quiz. First, how much warmer has the world become since a) 1880 and b) the beginning of 1997? And what has this got to do with your ever-increasing energy bill?
You may find the answers to the first two surprising. Since 1880, when reliable temperature records began to be kept across most of the globe, the world has warmed by about 0.75 degrees Celsius.
From the start of 1997 until August 2012, however, figures released last week show the answer is zero: the trend, derived from the aggregate data collected from more than 3,000 worldwide measuring points, has been flat.
Originally posted by Summerian
So lets have no more of this "global warming is a myth" nonsense. That's just GOP propaganda on behalf of BIG OIL.
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
The earth is warming. However, Mars is warming, Venus is warming, all of the planets are warming. Is man responsible for all of it? The sun is warming the planets. We have some, miniscule, effect. The sun is doing way more than we ever could. Man is not THE problem. Put down the koolaid.
"Yet we continue arguing about whether the Earth is round. This is crazy."
Originally posted by Summerian
So lets have no more of this "global warming is a myth" nonsense. That's just GOP propaganda on behalf of BIG OIL.
The Union of Concerned Scientists is the leading science-based nonprofit working for a healthy environment and a safer world.
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UCS members are people from all walks of life: parents and businesspeople, biologists and physicists, teachers and students.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
Again? Really? Really?
How long will this myth persist?
- All the predictions that have been made for the time period up to the present have failed to happen. The sea has not risen umpteen kilometers; hurricanes have not increased in either size or frequency; the polar ice caps have not disappeared.
- The carbon dioxide absorption spectrum is not aligned with the black-body radiation frequency of the earth. It lies just below the radiation frequency, so when the planet tends to cool, carbon dioxide acts as a greenhouse gas and opposes the trend. When the planet tends to warm, carbon dioxide acts less as a greenhouse gas and opposes the trend.
- All the reports indicating a warming trend are either from the IPCC or can be traced back to the IPCC. Translation: none of this is peer-reviewed.
- The IPCC will not release details of its computer models for review.
- Leaks from the IPCC are indicative (admittedly with minimal context due to the fact these are leaks) of a political rather than a scientific agenda.
- There are numerous instances of improper placement and calibration of the sensors used to determine global climate trends. Not the least of these is the fact that one of the most-mentioned CO2 monitoring facilities is located atop an active volcano.
- There are numerous accusations of scientists who disagree with the theory being denied grant money and exposure.
But ignore all that scientific stuff. A bunch of politically-biased web sites say it, so it must be true, right? Right?
Pul-leeze.
TheRedneck