Scientists discover new type of dying star never before seen

reply to post by Allegorical


What does another nebula have to do with this one? THIS nebula has never been discovered by humans (as far as the scientists who discovered it know), so what does that one have to do with this particular one?

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Allegorical

 

What does another nebula have to do with this one? THIS nebula has never been discovered by humans (as far as the scientists who discovered it know), so what does that one have to do with this particular one?

Get off your high horse and admit I was right. It has been seen before.

By your logic a baby born today would deserve a thread titled "Never seen before Human" because we haven't actually seen that one particular human before.

This is not a "new type of dying star never before seen" and my link proves it.

reply to post by Allegorical


Take a look at both pictures, do they look anything alike? One is red and the other is white/blue, they're not the same so I'm not sure what your point with that was, sorry.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Allegorical

 

Take a look at both pictures, do they look anything alike? One is red and the other is white/blue, they're not the same so I'm not sure what your point with that was, sorry.

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These stars to through different phases when they die until they eventually become a white dwarf star. They do not stay ONE color. Depending on what phase it is in will determine what colors you will see. This phenomena was discovered in the 18th century. Are you even an astronomer? Do you own a telescope? I'm willing to bet you are not even an amature star gazer. All you did was read an article, see a cool picture and the word "scientist" then immediately post to ATS.

I would post pics but I can't upload pics from my iPhone. Click the link I provided and then click the second link in the first post of that thread. READ the article. There are some pretty good pictures as well (i know how much u like pictures ).

Deny Ignorance. Admit you were mistaken. Learn from this experience. Most importantly, PUT YOUR PRIDE ASIDE. We all come to ATS to learn.

reply to post by Allegorical


The Helix Nebula is a...Nebula. A planetary nebula.

The Helix Nebula (also known as The Helix, NGC 7293, or Caldwell 63) is a large planetary nebula (PN) located in the constellation Aquarius. Discovered by Karl Ludwig Harding, probably before 1824, this object is one of the closest to the Earth of all the bright planetary nebulae.[7]

Helix Nebula Wiki Link




The image inside the link you're showing isn't the same thing. Its not classified as a nebula.

An intriguing spiral structure surrounding a pulsing red giant star may be offering a preview of how the sun will behave at the end of its life.

This Link Tells You It's Just Dust.

reply to post by Allegorical


Lol your link is not to even close to the same kind of star, now you star every post I have wasted on you trolling my thread!

Or are you once again not going to admit your wrong? And can find no evidence of this ever being posted or linked before?

Oh ya your trolling, please stop trying to derail my thread, thanks!

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Planetary nebulae are actually the remains of stars that once looked a lot like our sun.

Our sun will blossom into a planetary nebula when it dies in about five billion years.

The glow from planetary nebulae is particularly intriguing as it appears surprisingly similar across a broad swath of the spectrum, from ultraviolet to infrared.

LINK

I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just clearing up a misconception. I'm finished with this thread. I keep presenting you with facts but I guess all that matters to you guys is "who's right", why let a silly thing like facts get in the way of that. Good Day Sirs/Madame's!!

Originally posted by Allegorical
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OMG!! FacePalm!!

Planetary nebulae are actually the remains of stars that once looked a lot like our sun.

Our sun will blossom into a planetary nebula when it dies in about five billion years.

The glow from planetary nebulae is particularly intriguing as it appears surprisingly similar across a broad swath of the spectrum, from ultraviolet to infrared.

LINK

I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just clearing up a misconception. I'm finished with this thread. I keep presenting you with facts but I guess all that matters to you guys is "who's right", why let a silly thing like facts get in the way of that. Good Day Sirs/Madame's!!

I just put in my last post that the Helix nebulae is a planetary nebula, and Sculptoris R isn't.

You're external text disproves you're own "facts".

Originally posted by Allegorical
There are plenty of things that you don't know about but other humans do. We don't have computer records from ancient civilizations. The Mayans have pictures of people with helmets in flying machines painted on cave walls from THOUSANDS of years before the airplane was "invented". I've even read of DNA strands and all the planets in our solar system being found painted on cave walls. The pyramids alone should make you question the "never been seen" hype line.

It's all been seen AND done before.

edit on 10/10/2012 by Allegorical because: The word "have" in we don't have.

I read the moon was made of cheese. Good thing for me I deal in facts and do not live my life believing everything I am told. You should try it sometime. That or the moon needs to be mined for pizza toppings.

Originally posted by Allegorical

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Unless you have proof that it has been discovered before then your argument is kinda pointless, no?

So you have proof that it's "never been seen" before? If an EMP sends us back to the Stone Age tonight all of our information will be lost. Then in a million years someone else will be the "first" one to see this all over again

I guess the people in THIS thread don't count huh?

edit on 10/10/2012 by Allegorical because: Added link.

No if an EMP hit we would rebuild and in 30 years would be right back to where we are. Why would we suddenly start making stone tools because our Computer died? Did it wipe all our memory as well?

It's a star, not a planetary nebula (i.e. the star hasn't died yet). This kind of spiral structure around a star is seen for the first time.

www.space.com...

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Interesting find looks like its going black hole in time if it it didnt already.

That sun looks, to me, like it is producing a spial, anyone else notice that? or is it just a trick of the light?

Sorry, SPIRAL !

Originally posted by Allegorical
There are plenty of things that you don't know about but other humans do. We don't have computer records from ancient civilizations. The Mayans have pictures of people with helmets in flying machines painted on cave walls from THOUSANDS of years before the airplane was "invented". I've even read of DNA strands and all the planets in our solar system being found painted on cave walls. The pyramids alone should make you question the "never been seen" hype line.

It's all been seen AND done before.

edit on 10/10/2012 by Allegorical because: The word "have" in we don't have.

Seriously, why are you even posting in this thread? None of US, including scientists have ever seen this before and it quite interesting. Are we not allowed to discuss things WE have never seen before. This thread isnt about who may have seen it in the way past, its about how we now in this time have not ever seen it. IM sure if some tribe some where in the world were to see an airplane for the first time they would discuss it amongst eachother regaurdless wether or not the world knows all about airplanes.

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The image of the spiral sun is from ALMA which has discovered new images for us to see! It is La Silla Paranal Observatory and has only started to look at the universe "through this 3d rendering of the ALMA datacube....ALMA data are different and here they’ve been visualised in a slightly different way from how we normally treat a plain two-dimensional CCD picture." Phil Plait.

People should take a look at the short animation, it will help you understand that this is new information and never seen before - ALMA has added new depth to the image and is the best 3D we can do for far away objects and will continue to amaze us with its amazing images!

Slicing through a 3D ALMA view of the material around the red giant star R Sculptoris