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Originally posted by michael1983l
You think America is the only nation where the cost of living has doubled. Just wait until you gas Prices hit $10.91 a gallon like it is in Europe. The whole world is in a mess, you have to make your decisions based on the whole envoiroment not just on what is happening in America.
Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by xuenchen
If the warning signs were there, why did Bush not put a lid on it whilst he was in office. If anything he de-regulated the market even further.
twist it how you will but the maths shows your argument for supply side "trickle down" economics has brought about nothing but high inequality, and massive debt for the majority of americans
Well Bush allowed 40 to 1 leverage for a start, which was about the most significant factor involved in the Banking Collapse.
how does the rich storing money in the cayman islands benifit anyone except themselves and HOW does that create jobs?
in times of war the top 1% of america has payed from 70% to 90% income tax to support the country through the war, is this "steeling from the rich"?
or is making the bottom 90% of poor people pay for the wars steeling from the poor? twist it how you will but the maths shows your argument for supply side "trickle down" economics has brought about nothing but high inequality, and massive debt for the majority of americans
i can do the maths, i am really good at maths, and the data sets are undeniable, tax cuts for the rich provide short term stimulus, then MASSIVE deficit,
THE NUMBERS DONT LIE
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by XPLodER
twist it how you will but the maths shows your argument for supply side "trickle down" economics has brought about nothing but high inequality, and massive debt for the majority of americans
What’s the difference between your description of “trickle-down economics” and the modern day socialism that Obama and the left want? The only difference I see is in who controls the wallet. The bureaucrats on the right want to keep control in the hands of wealthy citizens while the uber-Left want to place control in the hands of the government. Either way, people on the bottom half will lose.
By supporting Obama you’re supporting the very thing you decry!
The bureaucrats on the right want to keep control in the hands of wealthy citizens
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by michael1983l
Well Bush allowed 40 to 1 leverage for a start, which was about the most significant factor involved in the Banking Collapse.
Sounds like an attempt at a market-based solution rather than jumping right into tax payer funded bailouts.
You don’t support market-based solutions?
I'd disagree on that. Hillary and Obama were still on the same side in the end.
He basically broke all the little unwritten rules of etiquette
I’m watching the campaign whose lead went from double digits to within the margin of error on polls
Go ask that bank teller working in the Cayman Islands why they have a job.
Actually in times of war the US(see Roosvelvt,Johnson) borrowed money from Others, then sold gold in fort knox to cover the balance,
Currently the us is borrowing from China, that same place those American business's are that pump US dollars in to the chinese economny.
supply side economics.
Come again?
Considering the poor have zero income tax liability what are they paying for exactly?
Really? tax cuts for the rich is they keep their own money, that massive debt is incurred by what?
Massive spending on those who are not returning anything back true fact.
Numbers don't lie
16 trillion dollar deficit
50 million on SS
50 million on medicare
50million on medicaid
47 million on welfare
Who are consuming more wealth than they are paying in.
That is the math and the math supports this nation is screwed.
if you love tax havens so much GO LIVE THERE
you cant twist history my friend, i know the top tax rates and yes money was borrowed, BUT TOP TAX RATES WERE VERY HIGH
whats that, supply china with us jobs and boost the american economy how? when the money is tax free in the cayman islands
some of the poor pay higher taxes than romney (a millionaire)
no the rich use roads to ship their goods, bridges ect, they use internet and power,
EVERY country that gave massive tax cuts to the rich just before 08, is now in massive deficit,
Every country is spending more and promising more than they can deliever no amount of taxation is ever going to cover them.
You call allowing banks to hold 40 times more than their assets in leveraged debt a sollution? Jeeze no wonder it happened in America.
Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by Xtrozero
We are not in the Euro and I would share your concern if we were. Liberalism has not failed in the non corrupt countries of the north of Europe. Using a corrupt, Greece, Italy and Spain as your yardstick for how well left sided politics work is just plain ridiculous. Why don't you quote Norway, Sweeden or Germany?