Tremors felt 45 miles away from Bayou Corne Sinkhole!

Just to add more fire to the situation in South Louisiana. A chemical like smell has been reported in the New Orleans area.They have not determined the source.

www.wwltv.com...

reply to post by SusanFrey


I was actually in NOLA today, I didn't smell much of anything. Then again it has been pouring down raining and I had my windows up. Something told me today not to go to the west bank, so I avoided that area.

reply to post by AuntB


I do not know honestly, going to start asking around tomorrow for you AuntB.

reply to post by CajunBoy


I have friends in Kenner area and they have not smelled it yet either, but like you they have stayed indoors all day because of the rain.

Meanwhile, the sinkhole commission created by the state of Louisiana government will hold a public meeting this Friday to discuss safety.
The meeting is open to the public. It will take place at the Woods Auditorium on the LSU campus from 9 a.m. until 11 a.m.

Link and also image of updated distances to highway 70 etc

Maybe people can use this meeting as an opportunity to ask/demand more information from the reports which the authorities are getting.

Originally posted by qmantoo

Meanwhile, the sinkhole commission created by the state of Louisiana government will hold a public meeting this Friday to discuss safety.
The meeting is open to the public. It will take place at the Woods Auditorium on the LSU campus from 9 a.m. until 11 a.m.

Link and also image of updated distances to highway 70 etc

Maybe people can use this meeting as an opportunity to ask/demand more information from the reports which the authorities are getting.

Good clip. I find it amusing that they keep saying, "we have taken samples for testing". Yet with all these tests they do I swear we get less then half of the results.

Tomorrow will be good to hear the info that comes out of the meeting.

Also, saw an up-dated DNR report & it said they are putting more on the containment berm. I thought it was sinking????

CB- thanks for trying to find the 3rd event.

what they did with the gas they found undeer the houses

Workers with Texas Brine Co. contractor Tetra Tech drilled small holes through the slabs and collected the gas Tuesday through a quarter-inch tube from the top one to two inches of soil underneath.

Parish officials said that the gas appears to be of a sufficiently low pressure so as not to migrate through the slabs to pose an explosive risk inside structures.

But Louisiana Office of Conservation officials said Tuesday that the slab findings coupled with prior observations of gas making its way to shallow soils and strata at low pressures — such as bubbling in rain puddles near utility line guy wires — verify the need for safety measures being recommended by authorities.

The measures include installation of in-home air monitors and ventilation systems, as well as testing of residential crawl spaces and slabs.

Pretty scary doing this if they used electric drills which are well known for producing sparks, howerevr they probably used compressed air for drilling. :-)

Perhaps we can find owners or managers of guesthouses or a hotels in the area? There must be loads of contractors who are doing work in this area who use these facilities. Anyone who works at these hotels probably overhears stuff at the dinner table or in the lounge perhaps?

Not that I am advocating spying of course, but if the info is not getting out in a timely manner by the official channels, we have to use whatever means we can to find out the life-saving information.

reply to post by qmantoo

this guy needs to be slapped back to reality

"Myself and most of my neighbors on Sportsman's Drive are inclined to stay," said Landry. "[color=amber]It would take a buyout where they offer three or four times the value…the pre-sinkhole value of our homes."

only on Fantasy Island dude and you ain't there.

i suppose losing EVERYTHING is a better option than accepting a reasonable buyout
and given that, this guy deserves a Darwin award.
i sure hope others don't follow his foolish lead.

oh and btw, would you agree that since gas has now been detected under homes, it may be a bit late for radon detectors ?

regarding the sampling reports, i haven't ever looked for them but since you mentioned it more than once, have you looked here ?

www.louisianaweekly.com...

Mallett said the DEQ’s Mobile Air Monitoring Lab is testing air by the sinkhole, while Texas Brine removes diesel fuel. Texas Brine is ridding the sinkhole’s slurry of diesel. “No samples to date have indicated any risks to human health from air pollution and water pollution,” Mallett said. “All sampling data is available at DEQ.”

i haven't and am not sure i'd understand/comprehend the results anyway ... however, don't let that stop ya and please, share what you find

also, the 5th Amendment to the Directive mentions the actions prescribed were based on sampling results.
5th Amendment/Directive

reading the above link (LA weekly) further down, i came across this

As for diesel fuel odors, Cranch said diesel was used as a sealing agent, especially at the top of the dome when the well was closed last year. Waguespack said “diesel fuel is used as a pad in these wells to stop corrosion of the casing.”

soooo, does this imply the well casing has collapsed or been damaged ??
clearly, if it is leaking, it cannot be sealing much of anything.

and just a note for laters ...

Waguespack said the salt dome at the site contains about 50 caverns

Aunt B, We're still waiting for the results of the radiation "sniffing planes" the US sent up to check out the west coast. They announce testing, then wait for the sheeple to snooze off again.
Forget radon, people down there need to buy geigers and start testing and filming results and uploading to U-tube

Ok, A love canal story.
A little off topic but you'll get some insight into their never changing MO.
First lets have a look at what they admit to dumping in there, before we get to the fun stuff.

"Olsen says the presence of these facilities in the region stems from the former Lake Ontario Ordinance Works (LOOW), which once housed a government project to produce TNT for World War II, and later a 165-foot, open-topped silo used to store radioactive byproducts from industrial processes performed in Tonawanda for the Manhattan Project, which created the first atomic bomb."
www.buffalo.edu...
So radiactive waste

NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y.--Twenty five years after the Hooker Chemical Company stopped using the Love Canal here as an industrial dump, 82 different compounds, 11 of them suspected carcinogens, have been percolating upward through the soil, their drum containers rotting and leaching their contents into the backyards and basements of 100 homes and a public school built on the banks of the canal.
www.epa.gov...

"By 1978 birth defects such as cleft palates, clubbed feet and extra fingers afflicted 56% of Love Canal residents."
myamericanodyssey.com...

"At first, scientific studies did not conclusively prove that the chemicals were responsible for the residents' illnesses, and scientists were divided on the issue, even though eleven known or suspected carcinogens had been identified, one of the most prevalent being benzene. There was also dioxin (polychlorinated dibenzodioxins) in the water, a very hazardous substance. Dioxin pollution is usually measured in parts per trillion; at Love Canal, water samples showed dioxin levels of 53 parts per billion.[24] Geologists were recruited to determine whether underground swales were responsible for carrying the chemicals to the surrounding residential areas. Once there, chemicals could leach into basements and evaporate into household air.
en.wikipedia.org...

Now remember that Dioxin for later.

Ok, my story. It starts in a sleepy little menonite town in Ontario called Elmira. They had a Uniroyal factory [A division of Dow Chemical] there and everyone thought they were making tires. Nope. With the blessings of the Canadian government they were secretly making Agent Orange. Probably agent purple and white as well.
We all know how the hippies just loved Nixon, so after they had shut his war down, ole "Tricky Dicky" was stuck with a five year stockpile.
Frank Mckenna [Then preimer of New Brunswick, Now a member of "The Carlyle Group"] bought about one-fifth and decided he could water it down a bit and spray New Brunswick with it, for the spruce bud worm. Folks weren't told anything other than "keep your kids inside and don't hang laundry out.
The rest went in bulk tankers round the clock.... 24/7 to.... Guess where? Yep. Love canal.
You can google this but I doubt you'll find much on it. A buddy who drove trucks took one load down there. He said the way the EPA was set up you couldn't transport multiple toxic chemicals, but it was fine to let them mix in the pit. The pit was 80 ft from the Niagara river, and the dumping was supervised by a scientist who told him this "mixing" would create 1000's of new toxic chemicals that nobody knew anything about that would be with us for thousands of years.
My buddy quit after the one run.
A few years later I had docked my truck at a chemical warehouse in east Toronto, and while I was waiting for the guys to finish lunch and load a skid on the trailer, I had a chat with the the head chemist there. Guess what? He use to work at Uniroyal, Elmira, and verified everything my buddy had told me.
Oh look, this looks interesting.
"Subsequent studies by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry would reveal a laundry list of 421 chemical records for air, water, and soil samples in and around the Love Canal area.
Out of 421 you'd probably find many of the more common chemicals that you can think of. The benzene derivatives were the most critical as I remember. Dioxin was a primary toxic compound in "Agent Orange".
answers.yahoo.com...

A footenote:.... A few years later there was an article in the paper about Niagara Falls home owners suing the city. They have to keep their homes in good shape because of all the tourists driving by, but it seems the mist from the falls eats the paint off their houses every year. They were suing for the cost of paint.
I can't imagine why?

Next time we'll chat about "Phillip Envionmental" and the exploding 40 gallon drums of rats injected with aids!

reply to post by Aircooled

wow Aircooled, reading over that triggered a few memories (i think).
back in late 77, early 78, after the major flood in west PA, i remember hearing concerns about the Allegheny Resevoir in relation to the LCanal and a potential for increased water pollution (as if the flood wasn't enough)

i had no idea then (or now really) that the disposal was done so haphazardly and then diluted and shared elsewhere ... wtf ??

it really doesn't surprise me though ... Dow doesn't have a well publicized history for a reason.
but, i'm wondering how many LA residents realize just how many superfund sites surround them ??

although many have been remediated (cleaned up), ppl seldom take into account the decay/degrading ratio of many components that made the region toxic in the first place.

i have to admit, it was very difficult to watch the landscape change with the seasons and still remember it was feeding on poison.

however, the last time i visited, it was heart-wrenching to see entire hillsides marked for destruction
the same hills we played on as children

they do not CARE for or about the ppl ... and everyone needs to remember that.
they are not looking out for your best interests, you must.
they are going to take the path of least resistance just like every other creature in nature.
beware

reply to post by Aircooled
Aircooled I read your post once and something is dinging in my head. You triggered something that I know but am having trouble recalling. I don't know why I keep thinking batteries.

One of the residents just came home to check out his home. What he found was portions of his ceilings have fallen. Pictures are soon to come.

*I'm having trouble with photobucket. can someone recommend another program to use."

reply to post by CajunBoy


Upload them to ATS.

Click on the "Tools" tab, then "ATS uploads" and then you should see a page where you can upload am image but will open a browsing tab where you can navigate to where you have the image on your pc.

Select the image and it will upload. From there click on the image and below you will see the code to copy/paste into a post to have the image display in the post.

For example here is an image that shows oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico:



If you click on "quote" in my post and look at the text you will see what the code looks like.

Jesus, from a flyover 4/4/13, it appears a massive amount of oil has come up into the sinkhole. I mean the whole surface is COVERED with it!





Now I don't believe we have seen that before, not to this extent at least. Another burp?

wow that image is terrible. I suppose once the authorities have started allowing drilling rigs into those areas, they cannot stop everyone appling and getting permission. Any one of those could have a blowout at any time and then we would have the same fiasco as BP. I assume that when the level of oil gets lower in the resevoir, then they drill deeper and deeper and deeper .As you can see, I know nothing about this subject :-)

I was hoping from some great news from todays blue ribbon panel meeting but more of the same old stuff.

Panel facilitator Perry Franklin said plans are being developed to have the commissioners visit the sinkhole in late April or early May as part of a three-day work session, which will include a public meeting. The group will use the session to discuss what they have learned at that point as they work toward a final report, Franklin said. Gov. Bobby Jindal charged the commission with recommending when residents can return home and establishing the benchmarks that indicate when that might be.

Does the Governor really think people will be able to return? Were they accelerating the buyout? Sounds lkie the meeting was basic bureaucratic BS, shoot some didn't even go and attended via video.
Sinkhole panel promises ‘very aggressive’ schedule

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Sinkhole panel promises ‘very aggressive’ schedule

That is bureaucrat speak for "We don't have a clue what we are going to do but we want to assure you that we will do nothing as fast as humanly possible".

Originally posted by CajunBoy
One of the residents just came home to check out his home. What he found was portions of his ceilings have fallen. Pictures are soon to come.

*I'm having trouble with photobucket. can someone recommend another program to use."

edit on 5-4-2013 by CajunBoy because: (no reason given)

As stated above, you have to use the ATS upload program under the tools tab to upload them to the ATS site. Then you can copy and paste the code for a photo into your reply. But remember, the photo has to be on your own computer hard drive to do that. You can't upload a photo from the internet to ATS. The good thing is that ATS allows unlimited storage of uploaded photos so you don't have to worry about running out of space. Another good feature of the ATS upload function is that you can create whole albums and collections of photos that are not viewable by the public but you can get the code to post them to any other site the same way you get the code for posting at ATS. It is just another line of code under the ATS usable code that you can copy and paste to another site.

When someone can, check the recorders quick! Lots of activity in the past couple hours!