Did Barack Obama Throw The Presidential Debate? Could He Know Something We Don't?

reply to post by Chance321

would say that he learned an asteroid is going to hit earth sometime next year and wants to go off the radar.
But that can't be it. America is required to have a black president during any meteor event. Pretty sure this is a rule.

Nah....it's not the rule, it's HOLLYWOOD!

edit on 5-10-2012 by elrem48 because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Hefficide
That phenomenon does truly interest me. The rapid decline that people seem to go through in just 4-8 years as POTUS. It might just be an anomaly based upon the fact that we tend to elect guys in their forties to the office and nature is just kicking their butts at the appropriate point in their lifespan.

And I'd imagine the stresses a POTUS faces are unreal. We stress ourselves out here just speculating about things - imagine really, truly, getting a daily briefing with the actual reality of it all? That has to be an enormous stressor.

And since we're in skunkworks... even though it's not one of my pet subjects. Imagine if there really were aliens at Roswell, or any of the myriad of other things we speculate about... and you got a job where they said "Yup, sure is real. In fact you've got a meeting with an ambassador from their planet next week. Oh, and by the way, you can never tell a soul about it and if you do they'll wipe our entire planet out in less and ten seconds...." Or something along those lines...

Imagine knowing the truths of things and NOT being able to tell them to anyone! I'm not a gossip by nature. But, seriously, if I found out the answer to a highly controversial and long standing question... it would KILL me to have to keep it to myself.

And intrigues? Imagine taking office and finding out something like "Oh, Putin? Naw, that dude was born in Maine and we planted him in the USSR way back in the day. He's our insider in Russia" or something. Just having paradigms, predispositions, and beliefs shattered, even if you can keep a secret, can push a person into full on PTSD mode.

It boggles the mind to just sit and imagine what might be locked in these guys heads, eating away at their minds and souls.

~Heff

edit on 10/5/12 by Hefficide because: I am on a roll tonight with the repetition thing....

Could you please write the book? Pleeease??? I promise I'll buy it!

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Well it's late and I'm bored.

This is skunk works and I haven't seen anything really skunky or crazy yet, unless I missed it.

Let's stir things up.

What if they put bad public speaker twin in the debate?

Huh....nobody thought of that huh? Geez guys!

Originally posted by gfthree7
reply to post by Hefficide

 

S&F for a well-thought out conspiracy theory.

I'm going with the theory that the whole election is fixed from the beginning, and the debates are like interviews and matches on WWE pro wrestling. In this case, Romney needs to look strong in the debates so that the public views him as a real threat to Obama. If the election/debates make for interesting TV, ratings go up, and Romney's strong showing in this debate certainly is an unexpected, if not interesting, turn.

The Obama vs. McCain campaign/election did huge TV ratings, and the people that own the television industry are the same people that own world politics (NWO, Illuminati, Freemasons, etc.). So these people have great interest in making this election interesting for TV.

Exactly. It's just funny that so many people actually think any of this stuff is real.

Did a time traveler or remote viewer tell one of Obama's puppeteers that he was going to be a one term president?

It's late and I'm not sure if anyone has brought up this bizarre personal and highly speculative and questionable theory. Haven't read all the posts.

A postman who knew Obama as a young man said that Obama said he "was going to be president of the US"
in a definitive way that shook the postman.

Next clue, Obama has said more than once that he'd be comfortable being a one term president.

Now for the wild speculation. Did a time traveler tell Obama he was going to be a one term president, or tell TPTB who then molded him as best they could from childhood on? Are his puppeteers hoping they can change what was once history. Or perhaps this was for seen by remote viewers. But Obama knows the truth, so why fight it, why not enjoy 40+ years of permanent vacation.

He'd be free to golf, play basketball, and Michelle would be set free too. And because of him being President, they are now enormously wealthy and can just play the rest of their lives and go on as many lavish vacations as they want to.

It's beyond me why this IMPORTANT thread is in the Skunkworks section of the forum. Over 50% of ATS posts involve hunches, guesses, feelings, speculation, etc..

If you watched how Michelle interacted with President Obama just before he delivered his Democratic National Convention speech last month, her body language spoke loud and clear. She held both of his hands and gave him a stare right into the eyes...as if to say, "I know you don't want to do this honey, but please...just do the speech and get it over with!". The media didn't comment on this fact, but during that speech, Prez Obama only looked directly into the camera during the closing portion...approx the last 2 minutes. At all other points, he was only looking at the teleprompters.. even when he was directly addressing and making promises to the American people. He used to at least look the camera in the "eye", back in his early, enthusiastic days.

Bottom line is the original poster who started this thread is spot-on. President Obama is tired of all the pressure, deadlocks, and he receives a ton of death threats. With a lovely wife and two smart young daughters, it's no wonder that he really is ready to throw in the towel and live the cushy life like Bill Clinton is enjoying. He probably agonized greatly over what to do just before the election season started. It's too bad that this office is aging him so. In the past 2 months, President Obama is looking gaunt... and that's not good.
-AC

It may be that he (Obama) has come to realize some new impending changes to our country, but I'd be more particular to the idea that he's rather just realized how simply powerless he really is in the grand scheme of things and that no pretty words or flourishing hand-gestures are going to change the outcome of the debate (or much less, our country, without more action from the citizens). Though I never voted for him, this country blames Obama for all the same problems that it blamed Bush for, and he knows from deep within that he doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning this next election once more. Honestly, I feel badly for Romney...how would you feel coming into legal custody of a "problem child" on an intranational scale?

Originally posted by Hefficide
That's when my imagination kicked in and concepts began to form....

What if President Obama has learned something in the past several days that has made him not want to be in office come next January? Something profound. Like updated numbers on the economy? Insider info on some soon to burst bubble that could sink us back, or even further than the previous ones? A coming major war? China calling in it's "chips" with us soon....

I'm glad you mentioned that!!!

Actually, that's what went through my mind when Hillary turned down the VP slot. I thought maybe she knew something was going to happen and didn't want to be connected to it as the VP. Of course there are dozens upon dozens of oher reasons, but that's the one that went through my mind first.
Second was that she knew Obama wasn't going to win, either on purpose or just the way the chips would fall and she didn't want to be part of a losing campaign.

Anyway... glad somebody else has wondered the same thing.

My own theory is he decided to just stand back and let Romney hang himself. Sure, the night of the debate, they were shouting "Romney won", but in the time since then, how many fact checks have come out proving practically every word Romney uttered was false?
Don't know if it was intentional or just happened, but holding back may have been the best thing he could have done.

reply to post by chasingbrahman


It's funny how the subconscious collective works. I didn't watch the debate. I would have if I could have. I guess I should also clarify that (1) I'm definitely not a supporter of the President. Never was. (1) Mitt is not my first choice. I liked Herman Cain but I think that there is no way that the "system" would tolerate a black role model of his caliber. Compared to President Clinton's in office antics I doubt if Herman Cain's were all that big a deal. But, he's a successful and intelligent black man and I really don't think the system wants that kind of role model for the minorities in this country... that's too bad... we need good role models for all people in this country.

Over the last few days I came to the conclusion that something was wrong with the debate scenario. I wasn't listening to the radio, watching tv, or reading social media. I just had an epiphany. It was too easy for Mitt Romney. Way too easy. Now the media has turned and negative ads are everywhere. This has the feeling of a well orchestrated scam. I think that collectively, we all know something isn't right.

Maybe he learned something about Russia that scared him? There were some russian spies that were arrested here in the US that were secretly exporting micro-electronic technology to Russia. Some of this technology can be used for their missiles. This story just showed up a few days ago, too, right around the time of the debate.

www.en.rian.ru...

Someone started a thread on this but no one even replied. I am not an expert on this so maybe someone can tell me what this article really means.

Also, remember the FBI agent that went missing a couple of months ago and was found dead with a gunshot? I remember him saying something like 'they're all crazy'.

I don't know, just trying to tie it all in. They're all separate stories but maybe it means something when you put them all together.

reply to post by PurpleChiten

Don't know if it was intentional or just happened, but holding back may have been the best thing he could have done.

:-)

was thinking that myself yesterday

doesn't really matter anymore either way - does it?

reply to post by Hefficide


Have you ever considered that the president is intellectually in over his head? That those that voted for him made a grave mistake. How could anyone step to the podium and deliver a stellar performance with the shape the country is in, and the responsibility of said mess sets on the shoulders of the president, you give the man to much credit, the media and those who support him set him high on a pedestal. The pedestal was flawed to begin with, did you not think, at some point it would not come crashing down?
As for him knowing that something is going to happen, he may very well know something, but his ego is to big for throwing an election.

reply to post by PurpleChiten


I agree with you. Obama held back, showed no respect toward Romney, let him spew his lies that would be checked the next day. And never mentioned the 47%... (Romney had a prepared answer)

So, the following day, while Obama was making jokes about Big Bird and highlighting Romney's lies IN OHIO and VIRGINIA, where it matters, Romney spent his day apologizing for the 47% remark (since it didn't come up at the debate) and reminding everyone about it again.

Romney may enjoy a small bump in the polls, but we all know the only poll that matters...

reply to post by laughingdog


Intellectually in over his head? Not likely.

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College. In February 1981, he made his first public speech, calling for Occidental to divest from South Africa in response to its policy of apartheid. In mid-1981, Obama traveled to Indonesia to visit his mother and sister Maya, and visited the families of college friends in Pakistan and India for three weeks. Later in 1981, he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation, then at the New York Public Interest Research Group

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year. During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990. After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago. Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention and led to a publishing contract and advance for a book about race relations, which evolved into a personal memoir. The manuscript was published in mid-1995 as Dreams from My Father.

In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book. He then taught at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004—teaching constitutional law.

Simply put... one does not graduate from Harvard Law magna cum laude if they are prone to finding themselves intellectually in over their heads.

In case you're interested, Romney also graduated Harvard Law, but only cum laude.

~Heff

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

I agree with you. Obama held back, showed no respect toward Romney, let him spew his lies that would be checked the next day. And never mentioned the 47%... (Romney had a prepared answer)

Whether intentional or not.

After the Glitter faded - - the real winner emerged.

reply to post by Annee

Whether intentional or not.

After the Glitter faded - - the real winner emerged.

it's interesting - isn't it?

after I got over feeling all dazed and confused I realized - it was a weirdly beautiful night

:-)

I'm calling it The Debate of Koans

Originally posted by laughingdog
reply to post by Hefficide

 

Have you ever considered that the president is intellectually in over his head? That those that voted for him made a grave mistake. How could anyone step to the podium and deliver a stellar performance with the shape the country is in, and the responsibility of said mess sets on the shoulders of the president, you give the man to much credit, the media and those who support him set him high on a pedestal. The pedestal was flawed to begin with, did you not think, at some point it would not come crashing down?
As for him knowing that something is going to happen, he may very well know something, but his ego is to big for throwing an election.

Nope. Compared to Romney?? Intellectually over his head????
HAHAHAHAHAAHA

To take it more to the extreme, it's a bit like saying Steven Hawking and Forest Gump were having a conversation and you felt Steven Hawking was intellectually over his head... to the extreme of course, but the same backward understanding.

...and everybody knows that although I'm a democrat and think Bill Clinton is absolutely amazing, I'm not a major Obama supporter (he's what we've got, but I think we could have done better), so I'm not trying to defend him or build him up, just saying it like it is.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

I agree with you. Obama held back, showed no respect toward Romney, let him spew his lies that would be checked the next day. And never mentioned the 47%... (Romney had a prepared answer)

So, the following day, while Obama was making jokes about Big Bird and highlighting Romney's lies IN OHIO and VIRGINIA, where it matters, Romney spent his day apologizing for the 47% remark (since it didn't come up at the debate) and reminding everyone about it again.

Romney may enjoy a small bump in the polls, but we all know the only poll that matters...

Very good observation, he definitely had a prepared answer and was just chomping at the bit to use it. He got DENIED.