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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Well maybe the Universe isn't infinite you say?
No one knows if there are other universes similar to ours in that space
I believe our universe is infinite, and yet it doesn't contain two identical things.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by tremex
No one knows if there are other universes similar to ours in that space
Of course no one knows. But it's fairly obvious if our Universe can exist than so can others. And if space is infinite and there are an infinite amount of other Universes out there, then one is "almost certainly" bound to be exactly like ours. But then again I'm not so sure about that logic anymore.. read through the thread and see where we are at.
And by the way... if we define "Universe" as all of space-time, and not just energy from the Big Bang expanding through space time, and then we assume space-time is infinite, then we can say the Universe is infinite.edit on 3/10/2012 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)
So in the space void of any matter, time doesn't really exist.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by tremex
So in the space void of any matter, time doesn't really exist.
False. And that's all I have to say about that.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by tremex
So in the space void of any matter, time doesn't really exist.
False. And that's all I have to say about that.
lol. Thats all i have to say about this...
but actually i will also say.,.,,.,. why is it thought that time does not exist within a black hole? does it have something to do with matter ( as we know it) not existing in a black hole?
. Likewise, If I keep rolling an infinite amount of times I will almost surely get a 6 but again, it's still not a certainty
Originally posted by tremex
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by tremex
So in the space void of any matter, time doesn't really exist.
False. And that's all I have to say about that.
lol. Thats all i have to say about this...
It's not "lol. Thats all i have to say about this..." and neither is "False. And that's all I have to say about that." It's "Shrimp. And that's all I have to say about that."
but actually i will also say.,.,,.,. why is it thought that time does not exist within a black hole? does it have something to do with matter ( as we know it) not existing in a black hole?
It's on the contrary. There is a type of black hole called a supermassive black hole. That's because it contains more matter than ordinary black hole. And since where is matter there must be time, the thought that time is absent there is wrong. But since the gravitational influences in the black hole are enormous, time ticks away very slowly. It's more convenient to quote an astronomer on the issue:
"It is a bit misleading to say that 'time stands still' inside a black hole. Actually, if you could survive a trip into a black hole (which you couldn't) you would not be aware of any slowing down of any clock you carried as you fell in. However, if you could compare the speed of your clock with that of a reference clock kept far away, then then the clock falling into the black hole would appear to slow down relative to the clock far from the hole. The place where the falling in clock would appear to 'stop' is the spherical surface called the event horizon. This is also regarded as the boundary of the black hole, since nothing crossing this surface can escape. For more information, look at the entries for event horizon on our web page:"
imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov...
Originally posted by ImaFungi
ok,,,, do you think,, what a supermassive black hole does to the matter that falls within it,,, creates dark energy or dark matter?
like the supermassive blackholes at the center of galaxies are engines which propel galaxies..,
does the same brand of space - time which exists interstellarly,, exist within a supermassive blackhole? or is there no room for space?
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by john_bmth
. Likewise, If I keep rolling an infinite amount of times I will almost surely get a 6 but again, it's still not a certainty
It is a certainty if you could roll an infinite amount of dice at the same time...
Why does infinite space have to mean that all probabilities will be played out? Why can't it simply be that, beyond all the galaxies there is endless and unused space? Like a shopping mall parking lot an hour before the mall opens. All the employee's cars are parked in one small area with the rest of the parking lot totally empty.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
Why does infinite space have to mean that all probabilities will be played out? Why can't it simply be that, beyond all the galaxies there is endless and unused space? Like a shopping mall parking lot an hour before the mall opens. All the employee's cars are parked in one small area with the rest of the parking lot totally empty.
edit on 10/5/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tremex
Originally posted by ImaFungi
ok,,,, do you think,, what a supermassive black hole does to the matter that falls within it,,, creates dark energy or dark matter?
like the supermassive blackholes at the center of galaxies are engines which propel galaxies..,
does the same brand of space - time which exists interstellarly,, exist within a supermassive blackhole? or is there no room for space?
Out of those two suggested options, I would intuitively pick neither. Black holes swallow everything close by (relatively) including the dark matter, but the whole subject is still in its early stages of observation.
www.sciencedaily.com...
I don't understand your last question.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by jiggerj
Why does infinite space have to mean that all probabilities will be played out? Why can't it simply be that, beyond all the galaxies there is endless and unused space? Like a shopping mall parking lot an hour before the mall opens. All the employee's cars are parked in one small area with the rest of the parking lot totally empty.
I already answered this in reply to Tremex. There's virtually no chance that infinite empty space exists beyond all the galaxies... there will be other "Universes" out there, our "Universe" being here proves that. I'm not going to get into all the logic behind why that must be the case, but just trust me... if infinite space exists out there, then there have been other Big Bangs in other places... well lets just say the probability that it hasn't happened is infinitely small.edit on 5/10/2012 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)
there are other Me's and YOU's out there - on planets just like ours, with everyone doing almost the same as we are.