Evolution Now Dead. 30 Papers Suggest DNA is Encoded Intelligently

reply to post by MrXYZ


Well seeing how you thought it was an addition to evolution just tells me that you don't realy pay attention. Target food is observed in every aspect of a species diet. Species have a goal in mind with the idea of their intended food. It's a proven reality based on the fact what follows when the target is no longer available.

#1. You never proved this aleged experimental phase which would be wrriten all over the internet showing us how a species goes through an experimental phase before deciding what he wants to call food.

#2. You never came up with a logical explanation about why a species is never found eating rocks and dirt.

#3. You never explained why all members of a species eat the same food, you are after all saying they test food and make a choice on smell, taste, nutrition and so on, so why do they all make the exact same choice? There is only one reason, its not a choice.

#4. Your claiming that food evolves right along side with all species, but you failed to explain why and how evolution is able to program a species about available food.

#5. You claim that species just eat what ever, and have no programming what so ever, so if thats true explain how they know the difference between whats food and whats not without ever trying them all?

#6. If "Target Food" is not real, then explain how it is that species seem to know how to hit their needed nutrients. All food is NOT created equal. One species junk is another species ideal food, animals seem to just know while humans have to do labratory tests to figure out what the values are in food, in addition to doing tests on ourselves to determine whats needed.

Species are suppose to have target food, just like the ant is to the ant eater and just like kelp or seaweed is to the Abalone. Your making the assumption that just because all species don't appear to have target food, that this is the norm, your wrong. We are headed into the 6th largest extinction right now because things are out of balance. The reason why things are out of balance is because animals and plants from other planets were brought here and all placed together on earth and you can't do that, its a conflict of balance and this is what we are seeing.

Sorry man like I have said before, there is no religion to realize this, simply pick up a bible and read the facts. If you want to be confused, ignore the bible and believe in something like evolution. Evolution is not a witnessed theory and the only thing from it that has ever been witnessed is some parts of speciation, but thats not an excuse to simply believe in the rest of the made up theory and is also a far stretch from proving that man shares a common ancestor with Apes.

So by all means go ahead and have your beliefs, but remember, its just another religon to cover up another religon.

Just my own thoughts, but how about we throw religion and science out the window for a second? What if the "intelligently coded" DNA really is "intelligently coded" but NOT from an omniscient, omnipresent singular being, but from a race that has mad DNA manipulation skills? It's just as crazy a theory as religion, and would account for some of the holes in the theory of evolution.

I've always had the thought that humans don't belong on this planet. Perhaps humans WERE engineered but everything else was already here and evolved naturally. That would account for intelligent design (to an extent), and would also explain why humans have so much junk DNA.

I dunno....just my thoughts on the matter. I just don't think religion has any excuse for being involved with science, especially when they are only using it as a tool to further promote a 2000 year old book that has no relevance in this day and age.


My $.02.



-TS

reply to post by truthseeker1984


That would be very accurate Truthseeker. It says in the bible that earth is not our home, and while many different things can be taken many different ways, that one is clear. It also states that we were provided with many things from other places as well. Animals and herbs and everything we could imagine, except that none of these things are from our home.

What this means is that none of the food we have here is our food. My theory of target food places us in the third phase of starvation. If we did have our intended food, we would probably only have three different things to eat. Our menu is so large that it even has food we have created for ourselves as processed foods.

It might sound like a cool thing to have so many choices but when the correct choices aren't available, it causes moslty problems for us. In a nut shell we have suffered a reduction in the quality of life from being moved to this planet missing our food. You can see this in diet problems, sickness, food related health issues and so on. We have built super supplement stores to try to work around this problem, and its all we can do.

The fact that we are missing our food is especially evident in the fact that we have no good source for calcium. I'm speaking of a natural source of course, processed cheese is perhaps the best but there should be something natural. Processed food dosen't count either as its not natural. We need 1000 mg per day and thats not if your a teenager or pregnant. 4 servings of dairy is good but cows milk is not a natural food for humans and has to be processed to be safe from parasites. Seaweed is 7 to 14 times higher than dairy but it has to be processed too. The highest thing on the list thats natural is Sardines, and you will need 5.4 servings a day to meet you RDA. Leafy green things and fruits and veggies are all way below that.

So you can see, we are missing a natural calcium supply. People argue with me and claim that we haven't always drank dairy, which is true, but that just means we were missing more calcium durring those times. It's more proof that our food isn't here with us.

reply to post by itsthetooth

That would be very accurate Truthseeker. It says in the bible that earth is not our home, and while many different things can be taken many different ways, that one is clear.

That is your interpretation of what you claim is written based on nothing but it fits your fantasy so again you make a false statement.

It also states that we were provided with many things from other places as well. Animals and herbs and everything we could imagine, except that none of these things are from our home.

A statement you again have never backed up. We only have your word for that and your word has been shown to have no value at all.

It also states that we were provided with many things from other places as well. Animals and herbs and everything we could imagine, except that none of these things are from our home.

You have no proof of this or anything else you make your childish claims for. You are clearly a very deluded and committed liar who has built a fantasy to hide behind rather than face up to reality. A scared child living in ignorance needing support for your fairytale. Pathetic.

My theory of target food places us in the third phase of starvation

More made up trash. Define: 'third phase of starvation'

If we did have our intended food, we would probably only have three different things to eat.

Why three? What nonsense do you base that piece of idiocy on?

Our menu is so large that it even has food we have created for ourselves as processed foods.

You do not even have the basic grasp on the language you use. We cannot create food.

It might sound like a cool thing to have so many choices but when the correct choices aren't available, it causes moslty problems for us.

Nope. It causes problems to people like you. The hamburger and fries chompers that are too lazy to ensure they eat healthily and too ignorant and lazy to learn how. Keep swallowing the garbage you do both food and lies but don’t try to convince others your idiotic choices are the correct ones.

In a nut shell we have suffered a reduction in the quality of life from being moved to this planet missing our food.

Not one shred of evidence for your nonsense again

You can see this in diet problems, sickness, food related health issues and so on.

Nope. All I can see is a coward who has not got the guts to look at reality, pinning his hopes on aliens.

The fact that we are missing our food is especially evident in the fact that we have no good source for calcium.

A famous claimed fact from you that you cannot prove and others show is completely false. The FACT you continue to repeat this nonsense and show no ability to learn a thing speaks volumes about you

So you can see, we are missing a natural calcium supply.

All I can see is an exposed liar peddling the same nonsense.

People argue with me and claim that we haven't always drank dairy, which is true, but that just means we were missing more calcium durring those times

Nope. It shows you are demonstrably wrong, in fact laughably wrong

It's more proof that our food isn't here with us.

Nope. It is proof that your nonsense based fantasy is built upon an ignorant pre conceived hypothesis constructed by someone with a closed mind who shows no ability to prove his claims and no ability to learn from mistakes

Originally posted by truthseeker1984
Just my own thoughts, but how about we throw religion and science out the window for a second? What if the "intelligently coded" DNA really is "intelligently coded" but NOT from an omniscient, omnipresent singular being, but from a race that has mad DNA manipulation skills? It's just as crazy a theory as religion, and would account for some of the holes in the theory of evolution.

I've always had the thought that humans don't belong on this planet. Perhaps humans WERE engineered but everything else was already here and evolved naturally. That would account for intelligent design (to an extent), and would also explain why humans have so much junk DNA.

I dunno....just my thoughts on the matter. I just don't think religion has any excuse for being involved with science, especially when they are only using it as a tool to further promote a 2000 year old book that has no relevance in this day and age.


My $.02.



-TS

The problem with that is that it doesn't solve the problem of where life came from. It just moves the responsibility for it somewhere else.

reply to post by colin42

That is your interpretation of what you claim is written based on nothing but it fits your fantasy so again you make a false statement.

Many things in the bible could be open to interpratation, but "Earth is not our home" seems pretty clear cut and dry to me. How else could it be taken?

A statement you again have never backed up. We only have your word for that and your word has been shown to have no value at all.

I have shared links in the past quoting this section of the bible. I can only tell you what I know, I'm not responsable for what you don't understand.

Here is just one example with Noahs ark.

noahs ark

A statement you again have never backed up. We only have your word for that and your word has been shown to have no value at all.

Here is an alternate section about ever herb, so as you can see, your WRONG.

all herbs

You have no proof of this or anything else you make your childish claims for. You are clearly a very deluded and committed liar who has built a fantasy to hide behind rather than face up to reality. A scared child living in ignorance needing support for your fairytale. Pathetic.

An assumption can be made here that these things were either made out of thin air, or that they actually came from another place. The fact that the bible has referred to other planets tells the story...

Leaders from other planets
As you can see, your wrong again.

More made up trash. Define: 'third phase of starvation'

Third phase is where there is nothing left for a species to eat that could be considered to be any type of food, so he starves.

Why three? What nonsense do you base that piece of idiocy on?

Good question, while its not set in stone, this amount of food sources appears to be a safe number based on the few species that have been located that are still in target food. There has been one observed with just one food, so it can depend on the species.

You do not even have the basic grasp on the language you use. We cannot create food.

Need I remind you again that bread doesn't grow by itself in a field, bread is heavly processed and cooked to create bread. It's a man made food. Yogurt also is not found outside in a field, it is a heavly processed collection of different things that are man made. Tofu, is also man made.

Nope. It causes problems to people like you. The hamburger and fries chompers that are too lazy to ensure they eat healthily and too ignorant and lazy to learn how. Keep swallowing the garbage you do both food and lies but don’t try to convince others your idiotic choices are the correct ones.

Its common sense that processed foods are not good for us.

Not one shred of evidence for your nonsense again

It's common sense again that anytime a species is not getting its needed nutrients, its suffereing.

Nope. All I can see is a coward who has not got the guts to look at reality, pinning his hopes on aliens.

I choose not to be ignorant to historical documents like the bible.

A famous claimed fact from you that you cannot prove and others show is completely false. The FACT you continue to repeat this nonsense and show no ability to learn a thing speaks volumes about you

Believing that evolution will adequately feed is is claiming that random food choices will keep us healthy, and eating what we choose rather than what our body needs will help us succeed. As you can see there is no truth in this.

All species have intended food, its a proven fact.

All I can see is an exposed liar peddling the same nonsense.

If you have one, we are all ears.

Nope. It shows you are demonstrably wrong, in fact laughably wrong

There is a big difference between barely surviving and being healthy.

Nope. It is proof that your nonsense based fantasy is built upon an ignorant pre conceived hypothesis constructed by someone with a closed mind who shows no ability to prove his claims and no ability to learn from mistakes

If we all ate rocks to test and see what our liked food should be, we would all be eating the same things. Humans don't because none of our target food is here, while animals are usually still in the correct food group.

reply to post by colin42


Since you brought up these many things Colin, I would like to point out all of the things that your religion orientated belief of evolution fails to explain.

Evolution fails to explain why we are entering the 6th largest extinction, but my understanding of how and why we got here does.

Evolution fails to explain how it is that a species seems to know what is food and what is not, in addition to seemingly target specific foods without trying them all, while Target food explains this.

Evolution fails to explain how it is that we appear to be missing a main source of calcium, while the bible explains exactly why.

Evolution fails to explain why some speices appear to have target food, while others are starving. Intervention explains all this just like it says in the bible.

Evoluion fails to provide a sufficient reason as to why we seem to share no intelligence with our aleged ancestors, if we aren't from here to begin with, its honestly a no brainer.

Evolution fails to provide sufficient proof of anything evolving, the theory of evoltuion was nothing more than an attempt at making an alternative belief system. Anything that is responsible for creating over a billion species is still considered to be a creator.

Evolution is failed at presenting proof of macroevolution, and claims its just microevolution many times over. Thats not proof.

Evolution has failed at providing the idea that ALL changes come from evolution, while I have given the example of ADHD and how it changes our genes. Evolution is obviously false in this claim. There is furthermore no way you can make a claim that says evolution has occured when you fail to identify the mechanism that makes that change.

Evolution is not a scientific theory and aside from some small examples of it being used in some bacteria and viruses, its not found anywhere else. Evolution is not predictable nor is it identifiable, which means somone guessed this whole theory.

The difference between evolution and Target food, is that target food is CURRENTLY observed in all life. If the goal is not met, than the species moves on to one of three phases where the original food is further from the picture. Only one species was needed to identify target food but in fact several apply. All other species confirm phases of hunger.

If a species was just suppose to eat whats available rather than having a directive, we would see all species in the early stages eating everything in sight to make a personal decision as to what they like. What we see is the opposite. They don't start out by eating rocks and dirt to elimanate them, they go straight for something that is food, as though they know. This pre-determined programming has other means but to be intelligent. There is no way that evolution could intelligently program a species without it being intelligent itself. There is no way that something not intelligent could pre program a species with exact food suggestions. There is intelligence all over this and no way around it.

reply to post by itsthetooth

Many things in the bible could be open to interpratation, but "Earth is not our home" seems pretty clear cut and dry to me. How else could it be taken?

No buts’ about it. That is your fantasy interpretation based solely on your preconceived nonsense which as I originally wrote makes your claim of truth a false statement.

I have shared links in the past quoting this section of the bible. I can only tell you what I know, I'm not responsable for what you don't understand.

Nope. But you are responsible for the rubbish you write and when you claim it is fact you are responsible for supplying the supporting evidence but you cannot and will not as you have NONE

Here is just one example with Noahs ark.

How that is an example of your original statement that our food was not brought here? I asked for you to supply evidence to back up your claim and you supply a sunday school story. How very scientific of you.

Here is an alternate section about ever herb, so as you can see, your WRONG.

So your link to a story proves me wrong, how? There is no mention that these foods your god gave you was not part of the stupidity based 'target food' so that again is the spin you have applied and has no basis or proof to back it up.

An assumption can be made here that these things were either made out of thin air, or that they actually came from another place.

You have stated many times you do not accept assumptions and why is there not a third option that it originated here? That would be because it does not fit your childish fantasy then.

The fact that the bible has referred to other planets tells the story...

Here you go again using the word fact when you obviously do not have a clue what a fact is or is not. You supply a link to a ridiculous site making ridiculous claims with no proof other than wild baseless interpretations based on a translation of a passage written in a book from antiquity and claim fact. Pathetic.

As you can see, your wrong again.

All I can see is you grasping at straws and again providing nothing to back you up as always.

Third phase is where there is nothing left for a species to eat that could be considered to be any type of food, so he starves.

So you mean starvation and your third phase is just another crap term you try to hide your ignorance and lies behind. Glad we cleared that up then

Good question, while its not set in stone, this amount of food sources appears to be a safe number based on the few species that have been located that are still in target food.

You have not shown one species that has target food. You have not even shown target food exists past your fantasy but I will give you the opportunity to do so now. Explain the lifestyle of these few species.

There has been one observed with just one food, so it can depend on the species.

Oh I see you want to change the subject to the anteater and abalone both of which your claims for have been shown wrong.

Need I remind you again that bread doesn't grow by itself in a field, bread is heavly processed and cooked to create bread.

Need i remind you that bread is not created so your bogus argument to deflect your misuse of the words you use has failed again and if natural processes were omitted you would not get bread. Can you not understand anything at all that is based in reality?

It's a man made food. Yogurt also is not found outside in a field, it is a heavly processed collection of different things that are man made.

Again you are talking out the top of your head. Yogurt can in no way be called heavily processed and again uses natural processes to alter milk into yogurt. You really need to take some classes not based on the bible.

Its common sense that processed foods are not good for us.

Again a sweeping generalisation from you that has no basis in reality. Par for the course where you are concerned

It's common sense again that anytime a species is not getting its needed nutrients, its suffereing.

The old unrelated answer ploy. Wondered how long before you employed that tactic. Shameful

I choose not to be ignorant to historical documents like the bible.

You lost the right to claim the bible as an historical document when you ran away from an invite to debate it based on the link you supplied. If you don’t have the guts to stand by and defend your claims then don’t expect me to accept them or their value.

Believing that evolution ........ garbled disjointed nonsense

Don’t bother to try to decipher it as it will still be the same nonsense you always spout when in a corner

reply to post by itsthetooth

All species have intended food, its a proven fact.

Proving again you do not know what a fact is or is not. Show evidence that food is 'intended'

If you have one, we are all ears.

I am afraid that is another lie as you have been shown your mistaken belief about calcium sources is completely without foundation and have been given tables and examples that you ignore because they do not fit your fantasy.

There is a big difference between barely surviving and being healthy.

There is an even bigger difference between reality and fantasy and it still shows you are demonstrably wrong, in fact laughably wrong

If we all ate rocks to test and see what our liked food should be, we would all be eating the same things.

Do you even review the nonsense you write. Do you really expect an answer to this?

Humans don't because none of our target food is here, while animals are usually still in the correct food group.

Neither of those two claims can you show evidence for.

Claiming a global flood happened is like saying the world is only 6k years old...COMPLETE...AND UTTER...NONSENSE

If a 5 year old child makes those claims, fine...but an adult?

reply to post by itsthetooth

Since you brought up these many things Colin, I would like to point out all of the things that your religion orientated belief of evolution fails to explain.

You do not even display the knowledge needed to discern religion from science which is the underlying failure of all your posts. Thank you for supplying the evidence that supports me.

Evolution fails to explain why we are entering the 6th largest extinction, but my understanding of how and why we got here does.

Extinction as you have been told many times is explained fully by Evolution. Now explain to me how being brought here in a spaceship by weird abducting aliens fits with extinctions

Evolution fails to explain how it is that a species seems to know what is food and what is not, in addition to seemingly target specific foods without trying them all, while Target food explains this.

Nope. You refuse to look at what evolution describes and you have spent many pages not being able to show target food exists let alone what it explains. The 'Target food proves evolution wrong' thread is testament to that nonsense.

Evolution fails to explain how it is that we appear to be missing a main source of calcium, while the bible explains exactly why.

Why would evolution describe your ignorance regarding calcium?

Evolution fails to explain why some speices appear to have target food, while others are starving. Intervention explains all this just like it says in the bible.

Why would evolution explain your fantasy around a concept of target food that has no basis in reality?

Evoluion fails to provide a sufficient reason as to why we seem to share no intelligence with our aleged ancestors, if we aren't from here to begin with, its honestly a no brainer.

Like it or not monkey boy those are your ancestors but I do understand your outrage given your attitude towards people from different cultures. Related to apes, how ungodly.

Evolution fails to provide sufficient proof of anything evolving, .............. drivel

your closed minded ignorance displayed for all to see

Evolution is failed at presenting proof of macroevolution, and claims its just microevolution many times over. Thats not proof.

Nope it is better than that, it is fact.

Evolution has failed at providing the idea that ALL changes come from evolution,

Jesus Christ mate, how many times do you need to be told. Evolution explains the results that changes over time result in. Evolution is a word that explains a process. Looks like we are still at the stage where you believe chaos is caused by the chaos theory.

while I have given the example of ADHD and how it changes our genes.

Don’t you ever bore yourself with this nonsense because you sure as hell bore me. After all the explanations and examples given showing where you are in error your continued ignorance on this subject must only be intentional

The difference between evolution and Target food, is that target food is CURRENTLY observed in all life.

By who, you? The very person that made up the silly nonsense term and cannot show one valid example

If the goal is not met, than the species moves on to one of three phases where the original food is further from the picture.

Your brand spanking new three phases of target food. Just as ridiculous and just as wrong.

If a species was just suppose to eat whats ............ drivel

There is a level below which I refuse to go below and the drivel you wrote went well below that Plimsoll line

There is no way that evolution could intelligently program a species without it being intelligent itself.

EVOLUTION IS A WORD THAT DESCRIBES A PROCESS

There is no way that something not intelligent could pre program a species with exact food suggestions. There is intelligence all over this and no way around it.

You are totally devoid of any signs of logic or any understanding of the world around you.

reply to post by colin42

No buts’ about it. That is your fantasy interpretation based solely on your preconceived nonsense which as I originally wrote makes your claim of truth a false statement.

I had my doubts too but there are to many things in the bible all pointing in the same direction, so sorry, your wrong.

Nope. But you are responsible for the rubbish you write and when you claim it is fact you are responsible for supplying the supporting evidence but you cannot and will not as you have NONE

Colin, I'm not going to play the mindless repost game with you, I have provided proof of everything to you in the past, just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean they don't exist.

How that is an example of your original statement that our food was not brought here? I asked for you to supply evidence to back up your claim and you supply a sunday school story. How very scientific of you.

The fact that you are so ignorant to the occurances in the bible is why your never going to understand. Noahs ark is not a sunday school story, its documentation of an actuall event. The more you distance yourself from the facts, the less factual you will be, which is why you believe in something not based on facts. Evolution has never been proven.

So your link to a story proves me wrong, how? There is no mention that these foods your god gave you was not part of the stupidity based 'target food' so that again is the spin you have applied and has no basis or proof to back it up.

Thats because god obviously didn't create Target food, I don't think your catching on to what has happened. Target food is an observed event through all life that eats food.

You have stated many times you do not accept assumptions and why is there not a third option that it originated here? That would be because it does not fit your childish fantasy then.

Which is why I chose not go with the assumption, things can't be made out of nothing.

Here you go again using the word fact when you obviously do not have a clue what a fact is or is not. You supply a link to a ridiculous site making ridiculous claims with no proof other than wild baseless interpretations based on a translation of a passage written in a book from antiquity and claim fact. Pathetic.

I wasn't aware that you have single handedly disproven any facts in the bible.

All I can see is you grasping at straws and again providing nothing to back you up as always.

The facts are obvious, there is no need for grasping, all you have to do is read them.

So you mean starvation and your third phase is just another crap term you try to hide your ignorance and lies behind. Glad we cleared that up then

The third phase is an observed event just like Target food and the first two phases.

You have not shown one species that has target food. You have not even shown target food exists past your fantasy but I will give you the opportunity to do so now. Explain the lifestyle of these few species.

Silly goose, kelp or seaweed is an obvious target food for abalone. Ants and termites could be a target food for the anteater unless he has a large insect diet. I had a third and forgot it.

Oh I see you want to change the subject to the anteater and abalone both of which your claims for have been shown wrong.

You just think that because you would search for non listed food items from other sources. The fact is you have totally missed the point, its not about what one post claims that a species eats, its about defining what phase the species is in.

Need i remind you that bread is not created so your bogus argument to deflect your misuse of the words you use has failed again and if natural processes were omitted you would not get bread. Can you not understand anything at all that is based in reality?

Well its not birthed, and it sure in the hell isn't evolved.

Again you are talking out the top of your head. Yogurt can in no way be called heavily processed and again uses natural processes to alter milk into yogurt. You really need to take some classes not based on the bible.

Any process at all makes it no longer natural. And cows milk has already been determined to not be natural for human consumption. If I'm wrong please show me the sign that says suck teat here.

Again a sweeping generalisation from you that has no basis in reality. Par for the course where you are concerned

You would be wrong again...

Here is why...

processed foods

The old unrelated answer ploy. Wondered how long before you employed that ta

reply to post by colin42

The old unrelated answer ploy. Wondered how long before you employed that tactic. Shamefu

I can always tell when you know your wrong and are to embarrased to confront the facts, you side step the comment by making a personal comment about it without directly addressing the comment.

You lost the right to claim the bible as an historical document when you ran away from an invite to debate it based on the link you supplied. If you don’t have the guts to stand by and defend your claims then don’t expect me to accept them or their value.

I would never enter a debate about something that wiki and other sources say is so.

Don’t bother to try to decipher it as it will still be the same nonsense you always spout when in a corner

I'm in a round room full of logic, there are no corners. Just because you choose to be ignorant to historical documents, is not my fault.

Proving again you do not know what a fact is or is not. Show evidence that food is 'intended'

I needed only find one, but found a few.

I am afraid that is another lie as you have been shown your mistaken belief about calcium sources is completely without foundation and have been given tables and examples that you ignore because they do not fit your fantasy.

You would be wrong again as I have shown many times over that cow muchous is not a natural calcium supplement, we need 1000mg per day of calcium and the highest natural source for that is Sardines 5.4 servings a day or 16oz of sardines a day to meet our needs. Everything else on the list is missing a couple of digits, so your wrong again.

There is an even bigger difference between reality and fantasy and it still shows you are demonstrably wrong, in fact laughably wrong

You might think that eating burgers and fries would keep you healthy but that is false.

Do you even review the nonsense you write. Do you really expect an answer to this?

Your evolution fails at providing a reason why all animals choose the exact same food.

Neither of those two claims can you show evidence for.

The evidence is in the large array of food choices we eat. The more choices that a species choosed to eat, the further he is from his target food, its simple math.

The fact that you would have to have 4 servings a day of cow muchous to meet your RDA is another clue that its not suppose to be our source for calcium. Our source would satisfy our needs in one possibly two servings a day. As you can see there is no such thing present, our calcium needs are not here.

reply to post by MrXYZ


The earth is covered with areas that were once main veins for large quanities of water. You can see this by the way the earth has been channeled. I live 100 feet from one epic find. The embankment is level raised about 80 feet down to the Spokane river. The width is hundreds of feet wide. This channel was clearly once a large pathway for water, now it just supports the small Spokane river.

What happned to the water? Just like the grand cannyon, this water eventually settled into our oceans and into the ground. There is rumors that this flood was water that was brought to earth from Mars. If water was added to this planet, that would mean that we have more than our fair share of water. Almost 3/4 of the earth is water, I would say we have more than our fair share.

reply to post by itsthetooth

The earth is covered with areas that were once main veins for large quanities of water.

"Once"...but NOT "all at once"

By the way, just to make it abundantly clear that there isn't enough water on the planet to make a global flood possible:



The "large" blue dot is the amount of saltwater on earth relative to the planet's size...the tiny small dot is the amount of fresh water. Only a complete fool would claim there's enough water to submerge the entire planet at once.

As for your "water from Mars" hypothesis:

1) Do you know what happens with stuff that enters earth's atmosphere from space? It HEATS UP to the point where rocks start to melt on entry. Also, even if some vapor made it into the atmosphere, it would never be enough to submerge the entire planet.

2) What's your EVIDENCE for your hypothesis? Because you haven't presented any so far. You merely mentioned it because it "fits" your pre-conceived belief that the bible is to be taken literally. You so desperately come up with bat# crazy stuff like this and your made up word "target food" because it's the only way you can pretend your belief isn't nuts.

If you want to be taken seriously present evidence other than random claims you can't back up and made up words

And don't even think about your "it's the supernatural (aka: magic)" co-out!! "Magic" did it isn't an answer. If it was, we would have stopped doing science hundreds of years ago and simply said "f*** it, the supernatural's responsible". We wouldn't have medicine, planes, cars, the Internet or mobile phones. Stop being ignorant for one second for crying out loud

reply to post by itsthetooth

I had my doubts too but there are to many things in the bible all pointing in the same direction, so sorry, your wrong.

Is this the best you have got? You made up a story then searched to find anything to fit it. The strength of the bible is just that, stories you can read into whatever you want with no evidence, no proof just faith and that is fine just don’t expect anyone else to be daft enough to agree with you.

I would never enter a debate about something that wiki and other sources say is so.

YOU WHAT? What a pile. I will remind you of the statement above many times I am sure.

I'm in a round room full of logic, there are no corners. Just because you choose to be ignorant to historical documents, is not my fault.

I imagine that round room with no corners is also padded. It is how they are designed.

Proving again you do not know what a fact is or is not. Show evidence that food is 'intended'

I needed only find one, but found a few.

None that I have seen and again you avoid providing evidence for even the most basic parts of your claims

You would be wrong again .........Blar ........Blar ......Blar

Told you already you have been shown to be wrong to many times. You have milked this subject for all its worth and have failed on every occasion. Move on.

You might think that eating burgers and fries would keep you healthy but that is false.

Your reading skills are as bad as your memory. I have never eaten a burger, you on the other hand have expressed your love for them and admitted you cannot cook.

Your evolution fails at providing a reason why all animals choose the exact same food.

Does it? Does it really? You show no understanding of what evolution describes. You do demonstrate a hatred for a word you do not and will not understand and that is truly pathetic

The evidence is in the large array of food choices we eat. The more choices that a species choosed to eat, the further he is from his target food, its simple math.

And that is based on what? Show me the figures that back up your claim. Provide the formula you used to make that claim

The fact that you would ..........Yawns ...... sighs .........bored

Move on milky and learn how to spell mucus

reply to post by colin42

You do not even display the knowledge needed to discern religion from science which is the underlying failure of all your posts. Thank you for supplying the evidence that supports me.

Evolution is a belief, not a science.

Extinction as you have been told many times is explained fully by Evolution. Now explain to me how being brought here in a spaceship by weird abducting aliens fits with extinctions

Claiming that evolution has its own way of dealing with the less fortunate is not an excuse, nor is it proof by any means.

As I have already explained, anytime you bring species into an enviroment they don't belong to, it upsets the balance and there is death. The same goes for removing species from the balance. The same goes for removing Target food from the balance. It's that balanced.

Nope. You refuse to look at what evolution describes and you have spent many pages not being able to show target food exists let alone what it explains. The 'Target food proves evolution wrong' thread is testament to that nonsense.

You can't seriously believe that species are suppose to eat random things like rocks and dirt, and if you don't honestly believe that, why are you lacking so much proof of this happening.

Why would evolution describe your ignorance regarding calcium?

Exactly.

Why would evolution explain your fantasy around a concept of target food that has no basis in reality?

Observed events are hardly fantasy.

Like it or not monkey boy those are your ancestors but I do understand your outrage given your attitude towards people from different cultures. Related to apes, how ungodly.

LIke it or not they share nothing with us aside from two ears, a nose, a mouth and teeth and two arms and two legs. There are many things that other species share with us and we aren't related to them.

your closed minded ignorance displayed for all to see

Just because you played a good game of connect the dots, doesn't mean your correct.

Nope it is better than that, it is fact.

It's these assumptions that will come back to bite you.

Jesus Christ mate, how many times do you need to be told. Evolution explains the results that changes over time result in. Evolution is a word that explains a process. Looks like we are still at the stage where you believe chaos is caused by the chaos theory.

Changes that supposedly have created over a billion different species, come on man, *palm to face* are you that naive? Anything that has created that much life is still called a creator.

Don’t you ever bore yourself with this nonsense because you sure as hell bore me. After all the explanations and examples given showing where you are in error your continued ignorance on this subject must only be intentional

The only errors I was shown is that the articles aren't being taken the same way that I take them. In other words they have found changes in our DNA that prove ADHD is present in someones DNA and that the introduction of lead into ones system is what has caused it, but by no means does that mean that lead is changing our DNA. Of course not, smoking ciggeretts is evolution.

By who, you? The very person that made up the silly nonsense term and cannot show one valid example

By every diet shareing there is.

Your brand spanking new three phases of target food. Just as ridiculous and just as wrong.

Wiki confirmed my idea of phase 2 about the squirrel.

There is a level below which I refuse to go below and the drivel you wrote went well below that Plimsoll line

Your fears are understandable, I hate being wrong as well.

EVOLUTION IS A WORD THAT DESCRIBES A PROCESS

A process that has no goal yet it has created over a billion species, come on man.

You are totally devoid of any signs of logic or any understanding of the world around you.

Just remember your the one that believes that something has created over a billion species but that its not a creator, nor was there intent behind it. If your sister face slapped you a billion times then turned around and said it was all by mistake, would you actually believe her?

reply to post by itsthetooth

Evolution is a belief, not a science.

It's a SCIENTIFIC THEORY by definition

Great display of ignorance towards facts tooth, well done

Claiming that evolution has its own way of dealing with the less fortunate is not an excuse, nor is it proof by any means.

As I have already explained, anytime you bring species into an enviroment they don't belong to, it upsets the balance and there is death. The same goes for removing species from the balance. The same goes for removing Target food from the balance. It's that balanced.

You actually described a part of evolution here...well...bar your ridiculous target food nonsense

Species migrate, and that always upsets the target habitat to some extent. We have wolves again in Switzerland, and yeah...that's upsetting the environment a bit because it didn't have to deal with it for decades. There are new species of sea stars that destroy entire reefs as they pass through...and yeah, there's death. That's how evolution works, you should really read the theory one time

You can't seriously believe that species are suppose to eat random things like rocks and dirt, and if you don't honestly believe that, why are you lacking so much proof of this happening.

Aside from the fact that most birds (and reptiles) eat rocks sometimes (look it up!), of course animals are sometimes trying new food sources unless they're highly specialised. One of my cats does it all the time, and so do bears for example...like when they enter supermarkets to go "shopping".

Observed events are hardly fantasy.

You have NEVER observed it because target food is a MADE UP WORD!! It's like me saying "blurbpluplormfli" is a word and means xyz

Just because you make up a word and assign it a random definition doesn't make that word pop into existence in a meaningful way. Stop trying to dumb the rest of us down with laughable nonsense like that

LIke it or not they share nothing with us aside from two ears, a nose, a mouth and teeth and two arms and two legs. There are many things that other species share with us and we aren't related to them.

Genetically the differences with a lot of our ancestors are tiny...smaller than between us and today's monkeys. As for being related to other species...we are related to a TON of them, probably all of them unless life started off in 2 or more branches (again, we don't know).

It's these assumptions that will come back to bite you.

Evolution is a fact, so your comment is silly

Changes that supposedly have created over a billion different species, come on man, *palm to face* are you that naive? Anything that has created that much life is still called a creator.

Well, we don't know how life got started in the first place, we only how today's biodiversity came to be.

The only errors I was shown is that the articles aren't being taken the same way that I take them.

Nobody takes those ADHD articles the same way as you because they don't support your claims

A process that has no goal yet it has created over a billion species, come on man.

1) We don't know if there's a purpose...even if there is one.
2) There is no purpose...but why does there have to be one in the first place?

Take your pick, both are equally likely.

Just remember your the one that believes that something has created over a billion species but that its not a creator, nor was there intent behind it. If your sister face slapped you a billion times then turned around and said it was all by mistake, would you actually believe her?

Nobody's calling evolution "a mistake" or "chance event"...only creationists who never bothered to read up on the theory anywhere but on pseudo-scientific websites belief that because they DON'T UNDERSTAND the theory in the first place...just like you don't understand it as is evident from your post. And that would be ok if you actually made an attempt at learning honestly about it. Instead you display a hilarious amount of ignorance and come up with made up words and bat# crazy ideas to "make it fit" your nonsense beliefs.

reply to post by itsthetooth

You do not even display the knowledge needed to discern religion from science which is the underlying failure of all your posts. Thank you for supplying the evidence that supports me.

Evolution is a belief, not a science.

Yep I know. You have already proved you do not understand the difference between religion and science and I thanked you for supplying the example. Enough already.

Claiming that evolution has its own way of dealing with the less fortunate is not an excuse, nor is it proof by any means.

Tut tut tut. You just cannot learn a dam thing can you. You need to let go of your insane hatred for a word long enough to understand this one thing. EVOLUTION IS A WORD. IT DESCRIBES A PROCESS. Will that ever sink in.

As I have already explained, anytime you bring species into an enviroment they don't belong to, it upsets the balance and there is death. The same goes for removing species from the balance. The same goes for removing Target food from the balance. It's that balanced.

Nope. You gave your unfounded opinion. Evolution has shown that on many occasions the spread of one species results in the extinction of others. It also shows that the reverse is also true but none of that explains how crazed aliens abducting us and any resulting extinctions means evolution is an invalid description of how life evolves. Do that as you were asked.

You can't seriously believe that species are suppose to eat random things like rocks and dirt, and if you don't honestly believe that, why are you lacking so much proof of this happening.

You are the only one daft enough to keep writing this and the only one foolish enough to believe it wins you any points. My advice to you is to drop it as it shows you in a very poor light and you are already shouting in the dark.

Why would evolution describe your ignorance regarding calcium?

Exactly.

only you could think that is a good reply Thanks for agreeing with me though

Observed events are hardly fantasy.

Man have you lost the plot or what. So you agree that all the years of collected observations that form part of the theory of evolution is not fantasy.

Now please provide me with an observed example of target food, your fantasy creation

LIke it or not they share nothing with us aside from two ears, a nose, a mouth and teeth and two arms and two legs. There are many things that other species share with us and we aren't related to them.

As has been said many times in regards to you. You have no idea of the process of evolution, no clue of the world around you or what science has discovered.

Changes that supposedly have created over a billion different species, come on man, *palm to face* are you that naive? Anything that has created that much life is still called a creator.

You just cannot grasp the concept can you? How long did it take you to understand the wheel?

Wiki confirmed my idea of phase 2 about the squirrel.

Wait a second .........

I would never enter a debate about something that wiki and other sources say is so.

Not only did the wiki article debunk you you do not debate anything wiki or other sources say is so. You seem to be a little conflicted.

Your fears are understandable, I hate being wrong as well.

Then why do you insist on being wrong with every post?

A process that has no goal yet it has created over a billion species, come on man.

One last time. A new species evolves from an existing species it is not created from another species and the fact you keep repeating this nonsense again shows how poor your understanding of language is. Look up the word diversity.

Just remember your the one that believes that something has created over a billion species but that its not a creator, nor was there intent behind it.

Nope you’re the one with a daddy complex who needs a father figure so badly you close your eyes to everything that challenges it

If your sister face slapped you a billion times then turned around and said it was all by mistake, would you actually believe her?

And that piece of nonsense proves what? Do you think face slaps are part of evolution?

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It's a SCIENTIFIC THEORY by definition

Great display of ignorance towards facts tooth, well done

No its NOT, why do you lie like that?

scientific theory

a theory that explains scientific observations; "scientific theories must be falsifiable"

Your so wrong, there is NOTHING about evolution that is falsifiable.
falafiable

confirmable: capable of being tested (verified or falsified) by experiment or observation

So as you can see, your DEAD wrong. Scientists are NEVER able to tell when evolution is the reason for any said changes, if they could, they would be able to know how and why there are changes. Just because they don't know at this time is not an assumption that its evolution.

Evolution is NOT falsifiable, no one has ever been able to confirm what changes will happen before they do. In addition they are never able to predict what the changes will be, or what caused them to change. Your very wrong

You actually described a part of evolution here...well...bar your ridiculous target food nonsense

Evolution doesn't believe in balance, the belief is more, let the chips fall where they may.

Species migrate, and that always upsets the target habitat to some extent. We have wolves again in Switzerland, and yeah...that's upsetting the environment a bit because it didn't have to deal with it for decades. There are new species of sea stars that destroy entire reefs as they pass through...and yeah, there's death. That's how evolution works, you should really read the theory one time

Theories that have no basis, and no structure, don't perk my interest. There is no backbone to the entire structure of evolution but there sure is a lot of claims. Again anything that creates over a billion species is considered to be a creator in case you didn't know that.

Aside from the fact that most birds (and reptiles) eat rocks sometimes (look it up!), of course animals are sometimes trying new food sources unless they're highly specialised. One of my cats does it all the time, and so do bears for example...like when they enter supermarkets to go "shopping".

Phase 3 for hunger has no basis for determining what a target food is, only that its not present. Of course some birds use small rocks for digestion but rocks are not considered a regular part of their diet. If your correct, you should have no problem producing the plethora of proof there must be, showing that rocks are an everyday part of many birds diets.

You have NEVER observed it because target food is a MADE UP WORD!! It's like me saying "blurbpluplormfli" is a word and means xyz

Target food is an observed event just like the words rain, snow, wind. Someone at some point had to make those words up, it doesn't make target food any less.

Just because you make up a word and assign it a random definition doesn't make that word pop into existence in a meaningful way. Stop trying to dumb the rest of us down with laughable nonsense like that

The title is very fitting for the definition, which is observed anyhow.

Genetically the differences with a lot of our ancestors are tiny...smaller than between us and today's monkeys. As for being related to other species...we are related to a TON of them, probably all of them unless life started off in 2 or more branches (again, we don't know).

No one is interested in your ability to connect invisible dots .

Evolution is a fact, so your comment is silly

If evolution were a fact it would be taught in all schools and colleges which its not, and it would have obviously replaced religion a long time ago, which is has also not done. Your confusing your desire of it being a fact with the fantasy of it being a fact. There is nothing factual about evolution except that change happens, that doesn't automatically mean that evolution is doing it, but thats what you get for assuming.

Well, we don't know how life got started in the first place, we only how today's biodiversity came to be.

There are many different ways and reasons to connect the dots. I like to use redundant verification, in other words unless several things are telling me the same thing, its not accepted as possible. Nothing tells me that anything has ever evo