SHOCKING: US Government tested radioactive gas on citizens in St. Louis

reply to post by HandyDandy


I can't argue with that.

I can't view the video, but is this talking about the spraying of zinc cadmium sulfate that is discussed in anothe thread in hte chemtrail forum - www.abovetopsecret.com... ?

Because if it is

1/ ZCS is not radioactive
2/ it is not a gas
3/ It is still used today as a paint & plastic colouring and in semi-conductor manufacture

I don't know why anyone would want to make such obviously false claims - it smacks of deliberate disinfo to scare up a mob!!

And, as always, experiments done in the past are still not actually evidence that somethign is being done now.

The use of ZCS was made public as far back as 1997 - NY Times article - and is well documented these days - although it was obviously secret at the time.

I knew the "c" word was going to roll off of someone's tongue.

So my question is...does chem-trails have radioactive gases in them?

And I think there's more cities other than St Louis that having this little problem.

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


what can you do.

all you can do is sue them.

but then you need a great lawyer and a team of experts that will run you into the millions.

sure you can do it yourself, but lawyers and judges view people like that with loathing and annoyance that you dare claim to be as intelligent as them without spending $100,000+ at a university.

they'll dismiss the case in a second.

MK-ULTRA and it's umbrella OPs, and other like programs, have never really ended. Once we practiced such sickness, the damage was permanently done.

After WW II the Soviets always get the blame. They have to be the biggest fall-guys in history. I say fear and paranoia became the disease that allowed men to abandon their ethical equilibrium.

I won't take the time to flesh out all the characters below, but offer some quotes as to the mind-set that came to permeate our scientific intelligence apparatus:

Lovell quickly turned to some of the leading lights in the academic and private sectors. A special group—called Division 19—within James Conant's National Defense Research Committee was set up to produce "miscellaneous weapons" for OSS and British intelligence.

Lovell's strategy, he later wrote, was "to stimulate the Peck's Bad Boy beneath the surface of every American scientist and to say to him, 'Throw all your normal law-abiding concepts out the window. Here's a chance to raise merry hell.'"

"Throw away your law-abiding concepts" and "Raise Merry hell" indeed.

General William "Wild Bill" Donovan was a visionary in many ways and understood the uses that the field of Psychology could bring to the intelligence table---dirty tricks and otherwise.

One of his recruits was a Harvard psychology professor Henry "Harry" Murray. Besides assessments of our foes that could be used for psyops-type purposes, Donovan tasked Murray with assessing candidates for spy work. Murray had this to say:

"Spying is attractive to loonies," states Murray. "Psychopaths, who are people who spend their lives making up stories, revel in the field."

In reference a letter from MK-ULTRA agent George Hunter White to MK honcho Dr. Sidney "Dirty Trickster" Gottlieb that evokes the "merry hell" quote above:

By all accounts, White enjoyed the undercover work he was doing. Perhaps a little too much. He would write in a 1971 letter to Gottlieb,

"Of course I was a very minor missionary, actually a heretic, but I toiled wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill and cheat, steal, deceive, rape and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the All-Highest? Pretty Good Stuff, Brudder!"

The link below is a pdf. I'm deep into some research now that tracks and trails the continuing disregard for humanity. It's making me very, very dark and angry, however, so enter at your own risk.

The Search for the Manchurian Candidate The CIA and Mind Control

reply to post by detachedindividual


There was.

It was finalised by JFK's and RFK's death.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
I don't know why anyone would want to make such obviously false claims - it smacks of deliberate disinfo to scare up a mob!!

Disnfo you say?!! You believe in disinfo as long as it's not government connected. That's a hoot.

And, as always, experiments done in the past are still not actually evidence that somethign is being done now.

Dance, Chicken, Dance.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


It said ZCS WITH radioactive particles; I'm assuming it was combined

reply to post by detachedindividual

I've grown tired of the people here in America, I've honestly started considering suicide just to leave this absolute # hole. The people who live in this country have no desire to know what wrongs their government has done, to understand the history of events to understand how we've arrived to where we are today. They have no interest in protecting the American Experiment, let alone freedoms and rights.

I am one of the only people that I know that actually gives a damn about this country. I am majorly depressed because of everything happening in this country. I am not able to put into words the amount it pains me every day to not only hear about things like this continually surfacing, but to know of all that I do know of the past 112 years of our history. The lack of sleep that I've had due to just being so damn sorrowful for people, and their zombie like state.

The fact anyone supports either Romney or Obama is sickening, both are the absolute worst for this country. I've tried to discuss things the Government has participated in, namely false-flag operations, chemical experiments on American Citizens, and just factually scary things our Government has done. It's understandable to hear someone say they are scared, and like allowing the Government take their rights for safety, as that's out of simple misinformation and ignorance. However, the resistance of people to know these things, to learn about them. Instead of having a desire for knowledge and wisdom, all they wish to do are laugh in your face.

They make jokes, or call you crazy, regardless of the information you're trying to tell them! They have no interest in Freedom or their Rights, PERIOD. Some days I question why the Universe would allow such desire to be blissfully ignorant. Their desire is greater than that of any person before them, it's one thing to just be blissfully ignorant, but it's another to disregard and mock those who try to create an "open forum" of discussion on things that are happening today.

People have no idea what is happening around them beyond their materialistic world, completely oblivious to what is coming. If things continue the way they are going, I don't see why Al-Qaeda wouldn't come for another attack, or some form of assault against us here at home again, especially in the near future. I don't personally buy into the whole 2012 thing entirely, but I have enough interest in it to read both sides of what is said. However, this attack is easily more foreseeable. We're continuing, and even increasing not only our influence there, but we're also increasing the amount of innocent civilians that are killed.

They will only continue to mount attacks, and we will only continue to kill innocent civilians in their countries, which will force them more and more toward hatred of the United States, ultimately in the end, turning them all against us. I do not say this to speak badly of Muslim people even as a whole, or those individuals who do decide to join groups like Al-Qaeda. I am simply stating that this will happen as a result of the continued mass murderer in that region, against their people. It is only logical for them to begin to turn on us more and more in order to defend their homelands.

We have been killing them since 1953 with the Iranian coup to place the Shah into power in order to control their oil, whether directly or indirectly. The American Government is pissed that Iran threw a revolution, and ultimately threw the Shah out of power, and defied them. "How dare you defy a great super power such as America, how dare you." is what our officials were thinking, and continue to think, as they continue their crusade against the Muslim people.

Ah well, ultimately I've come to care less and less each day about what happens, and just know that when it does happen, I will be taking the easy way out, as I just simply do not want to deal with these people. Whether there's a Hell, or Rebirth, or whatever, I do not care. Maybe people will awaken soon, but I don't have much hope for them. Ah well, I'm done ranting.

reply to post by loam


This should not be any surprise for anyone even you Loam, remember our own government also allows for big pharma to experiment on us everyday causing thousands of deaths from prescribed drugs, how about the experiments on our food too.

So we are used to it, by now, right?

reply to post by supadupadan


If you don't like your politicians or the system then you get active and join the appropriate non-violent groups and stop them by not voting for them - thats your first call of action. If you don't know who to vote for, don't vote at all.

reply to post by bluemirage5


I agree entirely. I'm not voting this election, which is something I try to remind people is an option.

Shocked. I'm absolutely shocked. Who knows what they're up to these days, more sinister activities I would imagine.

Remember they have two mottos:
"The ends justifies the means." &
"Order out of Chaos."
-The first one applies here..........

reply to post by supadupadan
Hey Supadupadan

I once was told that, hey there are good people on earth, so don't feel so bad about the way things are, your sence of wisdom could be what a lost soul needs.

First off don't give up on yourself, I won't.

The ones that would do such things to their fellow beings.

reply to post by loam


Eh.. not shocked. Read the Plutonium Files. Our government injected a bunch of people with doses of plutonium, uranium, etc. They picked patients they assumed were terminal, the problem of course was that a lot of them weren't and so they lived the rest of their lives with the problems/tumors/cancers caused by the injections.

What drives me crazy about these reports is that they make it sound so outrageous and complete. Like "man I can't believe they did that, glad that's over." Why aren't they taking these files and saying okay here's what we know, what else are you doing, because we know you are still doing something.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
I can't view the video, but is this talking about the spraying of zinc cadmium sulfate that is discussed in anothe thread in hte chemtrail forum - www.abovetopsecret.com... ?


I don't know why anyone would want to make such obviously false claims - it smacks of deliberate disinfo to scare up a mob!!

And, as always, experiments done in the past are still not actually evidence that somethign is being done now.

So if you can't watch the video, why comment?

What false claims? You didn't watch the video.

It could just as easily be evidence in need of context. Evidence of ramping up in human testing. Are you really so naive as to think we magically grew a conscience despite the ever lasting need for human testing?

Quality poster you are.

reply to post by Pervius
I got that shot in Ft Knox in 2003. There were several of us that got so sick we were sent to Ireland Army hospital on post. I was running a fever of 104.7, severely dehydrated to the point of my kidneys starting to shut down. They had to fly in a vain specialist to put an I.V. in me because they had serious trouble finding a vain. A soldier from Charlie 2/46 died from that damn shot, kidneys shut down for good. I am lucky to even be typing this today. Also, I have persistent trouble with my joints, and muscles to this day. I don't know for sure if that is the cause, but who knows.

They have been spaying us ever since on every1 everywhere, This honestly depresses me alot as I see these things on a regular basis. They like to do it all day everyday where Im from and I keep my windows closed at night....


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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
What drives me crazy about these reports is that they make it sound so outrageous and complete. Like "man I can't believe they did that, glad that's over." Why aren't they taking these files and saying okay here's what we know, what else are you doing, because we know you are still doing something.

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