2012 - Return of "The One"

Originally posted by Dustytoad

Originally posted by SpiritualTerrier
reply to post by MaMaa

 

I don't really "want" to believe anything.

I (and probably every being in general) has to base their decisions in "life" on what they feel at that point in percieved time.

However, I now understand that nobody is really making a decision for themselves at all - we are just playing our part in a script of life presumably running from a start to and end. This is a life scripted down to the most minute detail - as "small" as Godly possible.

Cheers,

Paul

Sounds like you don't need any help..

It's all decided for you.

What a boring game god made..

Your "guide" tells you there is no reason to try anything cause it will happen no matter what.. Think about this a little bit. What's the point of a guide if there is nothing to be guided through...

u can colour the figures in a colouring book in any arrangement of colours and each one different from the last. but the end result is always a girl in a frilled dress on a swing with a smile on her face. same with connect the dots.. same with lex luthor and superman.

I would realy love for "something" to happen so we can just get over it

Imagine if all the conspiracies were proven to be true, all world governments were overthrown, Aliens came down and "taught us" things, Jesus and Muhammed returned and we all got along...

How long would the peace last????

Originally posted by SpiritualTerrier
reply to post by MaMaa

 

I don't really "want" to believe anything.

I (and probably every being in general) has to base their decisions in "life" on what they feel at that point in percieved time.

However, I now understand that nobody is really making a decision for themselves at all - we are just playing our part in a script of life presumably running from a start to and end. This is a life scripted down to the most minute detail - as "small" as Godly possible.

Cheers,

Paul

Have you heard of Tony Parsons? I think you might be interested in what he has to say.
youtu.be...
He says there is no one who can choose.

Originally posted by 0mage


u can colour the figures in a colouring book in any arrangement of colours and each one different from the last. but the end result is always a girl in a frilled dress on a swing with a smile on her face. same with connect the dots.. same with lex luthor and superman.

Then there is no point to share your "secrets" with anyone... You blame the pathetic humans for this world, and it sounds like based on what you said you have missed your own boat. Doesn't matter how you color your limits you're still a tool, literally...

It's all decided... right? So it's not their fault.

What will I say next??

I color outside the lines... Whoever said I was even coloring the same book?? I'll play my game and you just stay trapped in your fate.
OK?

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,


You've left quite a mess here under your stewardship
You thought you figured it out but you'll learn your place in this
Might take some convincing for you to see the truth
There are so many things we've got in store for you

Originally posted by Dustytoad

Originally posted by 0mage


u can colour the figures in a colouring book in any arrangement of colours and each one different from the last. but the end result is always a girl in a frilled dress on a swing with a smile on her face. same with connect the dots.. same with lex luthor and superman.

Then there is no point to share your "secrets" with anyone... You blame the pathetic humans for this world, and it sounds like based on what you said you have missed your own boat. Doesn't matter how you color your limits you're still a tool, literally...

It's all decided... right? So it's not their fault.

What will I say next??

I color outside the lines... Whoever said I was even coloring the same book?? I'll play my game and you just stay trapped in your fate.
OK?

edit on 9/26/2012 by Dustytoad because: (no reason given)

look deeper, whether u stop or go, whether u choose to rebel against the plot or assist it.. it's all part of the plan.

i may have been told that in the future i will turn right.. so to violate it i turned left when i got to that point... but the truth could be that i was told that i would go right with full knowledge i would try to violate it and go left. thus my rebellion was part of the plan and the truth is i was going to turn left!

lol why do we bother with these things. forget this nonesense.. like who made God etc.. jeez.. think about it.. u send ur 4 year old to school to learn to count and do multiplication but he get's there and asks the teacher how to build a rocketship and show all calculation.. he can barely say his 5 times tables.

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This video seems to fall in line with yours. It reflects upon exactly why people turn to a higher power. Believe me, it's a lot more selfish than a lot of us choose to believe...

reply to post by Dustytoad


also.. calm down. these are not MY secrets u speak of. if it were a secret it wouldnt be known. again.. how can u be rebellious if my aim is to make u rebellious to the box i place u in? u are in fact abiding by being rebellious where rebellion is the true goal with a pretence of seeking order. how do u escape such a box?

dont rebel and u remain imprisoned, rebel and ur doing exactly what ur supposed to.. but u will escape the box in the process.


now is doing what ur supposed to so bad? why defy for defiance sake?
listen...

a man comes to another man and claims he is your authority you will obey every word he says.. and his first command to you is.. "BREATHE SO U CAN LIVE I COMMAND YOU TO OBEY"

do u obey? or defy? and why would u do either?

Sounds like you don't need any help..

It's all decided for you.

What a boring game god made..

Your "guide" tells you there is no reason to try anything cause it will happen no matter what.. Think about this a little bit. What's the point of a guide if there is nothing to be guided through...

Believe me. It's been considered a number of times!


Question: What is the point in living if you know that your future/fate is set in stone?
Answer: Assumption is that there is some form of Spiritual achievement/learning that cannot be proved/known in the 3 dimensional state we find ourselves in. Many have suggested this though.


Your question: What's the point of a guide if there is nothing to be guided through?
My answer: The guide has lead me to believe that he/she/it was someone I used to know who sadly died in the 3rd dimensional realm. I'd rather not go into too much detail about them but at this present time I am being repeatedly led/guided/directed to their former family members at seemingly coincidental times in order for the guide to try and establish a trust that it is them (something we both agree that I can never fully achieve with them within the confines of the 3rd dimensional realm). I want the guide to keep me company throughout the remainder of my life, however long that may be.

Additionally, the guide isn't telling me what happens in the future (other than as described). I accept that what I do is what I was always going to do and was all I was ever going to do.

I'd ask where do ideas and motivation, for example, come from? I believe they are given to us by God/Source/Script. This may also apply to the "guides", though I'd have to be in their dimension/realm to try and prove that.

Again, this is all perceptional (based on an individuals perception of every definition I use), so a lot of the adverbs are used with slight unease (I don't want to quote every one).

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers,

Paul

reply to post by SpiritualTerrier

Have any of you read or can point me in the direction of additional information relating to this?

You can read about the annunaki. It is a cause for contention though. You will find avid believers and ferocious debunkers, especially here on ATS.

That's where I think the E.T landing comes in. Some talk about the return of the Annunaki (as defined by Sitchin).

***

The whole Age of Aquarius thing...

The Earth has a third movement. It's called procession. It takes 26,000 years to complete a cycle; that's 1 degree every 72 years. As a result we undergo an axial procession and apparent positions of the stars change.

In astrology (which is the bane of my existence) or historically, this is what some refer to as the precession of the equinoxes. We are currently in the age of Pisces. That's where the age of Aquarius is coming in.

Not meant as digression. I saw that you mentioned it, and I think this is good for you to know too. So you can consider it as well in your research.

And...

If you're looking for more rogue or fringe stuff on the topic, check out Graham Hancock (sp?).

Also, I think your healing with alternative means is great and a testament to the power of our minds.


Above all, consider all things, including the skepticism. I personally think all the doomsday stuff (and age of Aquarius, etc.) is a load of bunk and not healthy for us. The day will pass like any other and then someone else will start another doomsday date. It puts fear into people needlessly. I've heard people even consider suicide because they are so frightened. And how much would that suck if we let one of these doomsday dates become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

=)

After years of study my take on this is that 2012 is the closing of one door and the opening of another. So in a sense, this world will die, not physically but spiritually and emotionally. We are traveling through a certain part of the universe where these energies will overwhelm us and bring about this new change in consciousness. We need to be ready for it or it might be to much to handle. This death, like all deaths, is not just an end but also a beginning. A beginning to fully start living authentic lives in communities where life and love are valued.

The one that they speak of is YOU. It is connecting to our higher selves, our God/Christ consciousness so to speak. We have become the teachers and the students, the sage and the apprentice. We do not need to follow anyone else, we just need to listen and connect to our hearts.

Live in the moment, you are exactly where you need to be. The time for study is over. Much Peace!

Originally posted by SpiritualTerrier

I've been doing a lot of research relating to 2012 and the theories currently held.

Most of these fall into:
- Chaos/Destruction of Earth etc.
- End of the world as we know it (e.g. mass awakening of conciousness, new skills/abilities etc.)
- ET landings etc.

I was not a religious or spiritual person by nature but in the last few years have come to understand alot of the alternative/spiritual/unexplaned ways of thinking and acting, having relied heavily on spiritual/energy healing in recovery from debilitating illness (when traditional forms of medical practice in the UK let me down).

I have also been guided to understand enough about the falseness of our own "reality" to question everything I thought I knew about my "life", the "world" and potentially the "universe".

One thing I have seen, on occasion, is the reference to the return of "The One" / "Saviour" / "Jesus" / "Prodigal Son" to lead us (atleast some of us) into this new age of the Earth/Universe ("Age of Aquarious").

Have any of you read or can point me in the direction of additional information relating to this?

The ONE is just reality conciousness from my point of view. I do not buy the god being disconnected from the creation theory and if I read Jesus, Buddha, Nanek or Bhagavad Gita they all preach nonduality in different ways(That everything is one whole). When christ conciousness/the oneness/the bliss/grace/crown chakra opening/temporary loss of ego will happen to people I have no idea and you might already know this and much more than me.

I am just a traveler playing around with nonduality and duality and synchronicity who still do not have any clues what is planed for the close future. You could hope something happens just to get everything moving from the stagnation caused by fear and duality and small minded preaching to the thinkers what is right and wrong based on indoctrination. But whatever happens try to enjoy the ride.

Originally posted by 0mage
reply to post by crazyguy2012

 

the only way i can be the one is if ppl embrace me. and they cant really do that since im not sure i plan on coming public. i probably should. but i look down on decrepid humanity. the only thing keeps me watching is the small inclings of hope i see the news of the world. the actions of compassion and self sacrifice that pass thru my facebook news feed.

Yes.. I have the answers. but who cares? who really wants to know? and who do i want to help? the answer is simple. the only ones i want to help are those that help others. but im not the doorstop. something else decides whether it reveals itself to you. your spirit. and if ur spirit is disgusted with u and ur actions and will towards men and nature it will not. quite simple.

what u need to know is about the chakras.. the third eye and spiritual enlightenment which wakes up the soul at its seat in the pituitary. but as i said before.. he wont wake up unless he sees a reason too. if u are selfish so will he be. if u are greedy he will deprive you. if u deceive others he will deceive you.

im sorry to start going deeper into code whereas many of my previous posts were in as simple terms as possible. but i believe im reaching the point where i will make my exit. i am not pleased. and am considering stopping teaching and leaving humanity to find someone else who will help them. i dont know if it's me. i just figured out the mystery of existence. im sure someone else has. so u may have to look to them.

0mage I have the same urges to leave as you do sometimes and some days are better some days are worse. I am not really sure I am doing anything useful and most times my mind/ego is just feed up with the whole situation. But if I get one person to get it in this life then it will have been worth it or at least go far enought in the right direction then it is good enought. How can we know that someone will not make extreme change and evolve extreamly high and quick even if they are sprouting duality and will not belive in anything we say? I can be unhappy with a persons mind/ego thoughts but that is not the real person behind. It is just a temporary persona that changes just like the real person behind the mind/ego but probably slower.

I am not a patient person but unfortunatly I think we have to look at the extreme big picture. Will you really care about this in a 10000 years? Me being human is really wierd experiance. To much emotion from my point of view and to little processing power and sensory information. If anybody have a owners manual for this body then send me it. I think I need a tuneup .

Whatever happens 0mage. See you in the flipside.

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I feel the same way. I'm almost 100% positive that I'm not a savior/messiah/saint/whatever. But I do want to see change in the world. I want to die knowing that the world is going to be okay. At the moment, I'm nowhere close to being able to do that. And I'm nowhere close to being able to get close to doing that.

It takes so much more than one person. And that's what drags me down so often.

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If logic answered every question, the world would be a boring depressing place.

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Originally posted by JDmOKI
reply to post by BrokenCircles

 

If logic answered every question, the world would be a boring depressing place.

Obviously, you must prefer the excitement of off-topic nonsensical gibberish.
Good luck with that.

Maybe YOU are The One !
did you start your Peace and Love ministry ?
cant wait to listen to your spiritual advice

Originally posted by 0mage
the only way i can be the one is if ppl embrace me. and they cant really do that since im not sure i plan on coming public. i probably should. but i look down on decrepid humanity. the only thing keeps me watching is the small inclings of hope i see the news of the world. the actions of compassion and self sacrifice that pass thru my facebook news feed.

You sir, should get out more. If through your screens you think you know what humanity is, I would advise you to look further.

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip

Originally posted by 0mage
the only way i can be the one is if ppl embrace me. and they cant really do that since im not sure i plan on coming public. i probably should. but i look down on decrepid humanity. the only thing keeps me watching is the small inclings of hope i see the news of the world. the actions of compassion and self sacrifice that pass thru my facebook news feed.

You sir, should get out more. If through your screens you think you know what humanity is, I would advise you to look further.

well no. it's more than that. i do feel the force. i feel the emotional state of the earth. i feel it's qualms. i feel it's report. and it is this report that gives me these statistics..

10% of humanity is already in the process of awakening or already awakened.

30% are still researching yet still are having problems with the first step of trusting their intution and wont ever graduate past scholars if they dont accomplish the intuitive trust.

20% believe they are already fully awakened but all they have awakened to is the deceptions of reality in things like government and finance and war. seeking peace will bring them to join the 30% of researchers.

which means.. the rest are not even anywhere near or accepting of enlightenment. that's about a total of 90% of the ppl of the globe that are not aware/awake to their spiritual nature. it is an ongoing process. within it i understand why some ppl do seemingly wicked or evil things. many of them unknowingly. but that is no excuse. in the end if u are guilty of throwing gas on the fire without repent then u will face the judgement of ur actions. ignorance is no safe plea when the golden rule was given as a universal truth that resonates in every man woman and child's heart.

so feeling the energies of the earth reading symbols and signs etc. it's a conglomerate of readings from the force and the environment that tells me that we are quite a decrepid and uncivilized humanity still. yes it is changing and without looking i cannot tell u the exact timeline but it is changing and the ultimate goal will be that it will eventually become 90% achieved and 10% doubtful. that train cannot be stopped. but id love to see it. a 90% spiritual humanity. so many problems of society etc would be solved from scientific to societal.

like ive said.. im waiting on a sign. a sign of the coming, a sign of action etc. the sign may come as well as it may not. i can only wait. but until then i will be where i need to be doing what i need to do during the preparation.

i can say one profoundly truthful statement which i wish for all doubtfuls and non-believers to take seriously.

"something spiritual is going down, and i think it's in ur best interest to jump on the bandwagon and try to get a seat on the train."

Originally posted by 0mage
i can say one profoundly truthful statement which i wish for all doubtfuls and non-believers to take seriously.

"something spiritual is going down, and i think it's in ur best interest to jump on the bandwagon and try to get a seat on the train."

I wish I was able to find some profound truth in your statement, but I am not. It is more likely that what we think is this coming spiritual age, is merely the crushing weight of a growing proximity with other people, their ideas and their information. We are able to converse instantly with people around the globe. 150 more people are born than will die every minute. We can share our ideas instantly, thereby reaching more and more people with our words. This is what is growing: population and the speed at which we are able to interact. This is your force.

Leave the city, head into the woods for a month, as I do once a year, and afterwords tell me what you feel of this coming spiritual age. Being detached from this instant access of human-contrived information shows almost instantly that there is nothing spiritual going down.