Ahmadinejad says Israel has 'no roots' in Middle East

Originally posted by jacknast76
Actually he is correct. The Jews were taken from Africa to be the slaves of Egypt. Once they got their freedom they moved into the middle east, more specifically the Sinai peninsula and wandered around.

Erm... no actually. It's likely that they were a sub-set of the Hyksos, a group of invaders who were from what was then Canaan, who invaded and conquered Lower Egypt (the Nile delta in other words) when the Egyptians were at a low ebb. The Hyksos kingdom was later conquered when the Egyptians made a comeback.

Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by Humanity4Ever

 

Iran also has the right to defend itself, and unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, they actually can, which is why there is nonstop demonization of Iran. Iran is the last country that is really sticking up to the world superpower. That is why they are so wonderful and why the UN speech on Wednesday will be earth shattering. I can't wait to hear what the honorable Ahmadenijad will say.

I hope you enjoyed his aimless rant about whatever the hell it was he was trying to say. Something about the return of the Mahdi and Jesus apparently. He should have gone for the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas to complete the set.

Originally posted by filosophia

Israel history should not be wiped out, instead it should be taught in public schools, especially the USS liberty and Israel's role in 9/11.

Now that we see your view of "history" is rooted in speculative conspiracy theories, I think we can now read this thread in its proper light.

A fairy tale.

/TOA

Originally posted by The Old American
Now that we see your view of "history" is rooted in speculative conspiracy theories, I think we can now read this thread in its proper light.

A fairy tale.

/TOA

I tip my hat to you sir. Nicely stated.

Ughh!

This old chestnut again

Funny how nobody elses ethnicity is called into question and is accepted without a thought except for the Jews hey?

May lead some of us to believe that the OPs and some posters on these threads are disgusting, ant-Jewish bigots who use "discussion" to spout their veiled, bigotted views..

Which is not fooling anyone btw..

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Nice, you call yourself an american yet you think the uss liberty is a conspiracy theory. Now I can see your comments in the proper light. When even wikipedia admits it was an Israeli attack, I would like to know your sources as to why you think the USS liberty is a 'conspiracy theory' as you did not provide any links, I'm guessing you have none.

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So you don't like discussions, huh? what tactic should I use? False flags? Covert ops? Maybe draw a picture of a bomb. sad that you are so angered by a simple discussions. No jews were harmed during the making of this thread, so you are the only one with some agenda of hatred. I am part Jewish so maybe you should just can the antisemitic nonsense.

Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by The Old American

 

Nice, you call yourself an american yet you think the uss liberty is a conspiracy theory. Now I can see your comments in the proper light. When even wikipedia admits it was an Israeli attack, I would like to know your sources as to why you think the USS liberty is a 'conspiracy theory' as you did not provide any links, I'm guessing you have none.

No, the incident with the U.S.S. Liberty really happened. It has been recorded in history. It's the "how" and "why" of it that is only speculation. The only fact is that it happened. The same way with 9/11. There is no supporting fact that Israel or ZOMGionists had anything to do with it. Only speculation. Yet you want to fill the history books with said conspiracy theories that support your fevered imagination instead of those bizarre things called "facts" and "data".

/TOA

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And I am part Welsh, but does not mean I get sexually aroused by sheep and get misty eyed over the valleys..

I call a spade a spade and the OP BS..

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

You DO realize that, just like Persia became Iran, Israel became Palestine, right? And the "Israeli's" were a combination of Russian (at first) and European (who barred the poor and gypsy like Russian jews from moving in) Jews that wanted to see the "Holy Land" returned to Jewish control?

This was about enforcing a religious war against the Muslims for control of the Holy Land. If the legitimacy of ancient maps is to be used to aid legitimacy to current times, we have to remember that the "Hebrews" became the "Palestinians" by virtue of cultural change.

Uh no, the hebrews were nearly exterminated by the Romans 2000 years ago after 2 failed rebellions, the ones who survived the destruction of Jerusalem ended up slaves to romans in Italy and shipped all over europe where conquests were taking place and that is how the jews ended up in europe, that and the Assyrian and Babylonian exiles. After the hebrews were almost wiped out Caesar Hadrian renamed Israel into Syriac Palestina as an insult to a defeated people and then ploughed under the temple mount just before turning the land over to arabs who had been eyeballing that land for centuries but could never take it from the hebrews.

First off thanks lonewolf19792000 for "trying" to educate some people in here, unfortunately most have bought into the propaganda.

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by filosophia

 

Ahmadinejad says Israel has 'no roots' in Middle

He also said there are no gays in Iran....so ?

Oh wait...What did I expect from an ATS member who thinks Hitler was a hero ?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lets see, you attack the OP for something not He but Ahmadinejad said.

You obviously don't know much about Hitler. Before the war started, Hitler was a Hero. Hitler did the one thing so far no American has had the guts to do. He stood up to the Zionist bankers and when they left the country in financial ruins, Hitler devised a new currency and way for the country to grow economically. In just a few years, Germany was more prosperous than it had been before the bankers left. At this time in history, Hitler was perhaps the greatest patriot Germany had ever known. Hitler didn't become corrupted with notions of race hate and wanting to take over the world until After the war started.

Some more historical things to consider. Nazi is a combination of the terms National Socialist and Zionist. The Nazis were not under Hitlers direct control. The Nazis who killed the Jews and put them in camps were controlled by the Zionist bankers that were still super pissed at Hitler. It was the Zionists Jews that wanted the traditional Jews to be killed because they did not agree with the Zionists beliefs of conquering the world. It's those same Zionists that is leading Israel today. Through the Nazi's is how the Zionists got back into German politics and corrupted Hitler. This has always been about one Jewish faction against another.

reply to post by MidnightTide

First off thanks lonewolf19792000 for "trying" to educate some people in here, unfortunately most have bought into the propaganda.

Yeah...I blame the system. This is what happens when education in your country goes into the dumps, and your nation shells out more stupid people than it does people who desire to pick up history books and read.

Originally posted by The Old American
There is no supporting fact that Israel or ZOMGionists had anything to do with it. Only speculation.
/TOA

Actually TOA. Your in Luck. How would you like to Learn something today.
The Actual Survivors , of the USS Liberty, to give you a first hand account.
Or are you going to call these Servicemen's accounts propaganda?

Go On, take a Leap, its well made, well presented and well truthful.

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I read your post, and you provide no facts. Here are some: israeli spies arrested on and after 9/11. The so called 'dancing' israelis. It's a fact, no question about that. Another fact is that the uss liberty had a noticeable american flag, and the attacks targeted the radio communications of the ship. It is also the only navy incident that has not had an official investigation. So if you have information to the contrary, please add it. But calling me a conspiracy theorist and then not giving any facts to back up what you say is either being intellectual dishonest or intellectually lazy

Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by filosophia

 

And I am part Welsh, but does not mean I get sexually aroused by sheep and get misty eyed over the valleys..

I call a spade a spade and the OP BS..

Your post adds nothing of relevance to this thread or history in general, it's also racist. Maybe you think you can intimidate me somehow, but I'll give you a hint, I am moved by facts, not mindless personal insults. "I am part welsh but I don't get sexually aroused by sheep"...wow, that is just so mindless it makes me feel sorry for you.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


If I was a product of the system, I wouldn't be supporting Iran, now would I? Think about: you first off don't even directly insult me, but indirectly insult me by 'blaming the system'. Question: which part of the system supports Iran? Which school text book that the system pushes offers a support of Iran in any way? None. At the very least you can blame outside the system for my beliefs, not the system. Unless you can show me in what way the system supports critical thought of american government, and support for iran.

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*sniff* ... That hurt and stuff.. *sniff*

Your personal opinion of me does not count for crap.. Nor does your faux pity or attempt to deam me a racist against myself!
Please use another card.. That one one has gotten boring
As for that intimidation comment?? Purlease!

I deal with facts too, and those facts call this thread BS..

reply to post by EvanB


Okay so bring the facts to the table. Not all, but a large migration of Jews went to Israel in 1948. Fact. Previous to this, these people were european, fact. They claim the have a divine right to the land. Fact. The bible can be used to promote any agenda from homophobia to murder of children. Fact. Therefore, the bible is not a trustworthy source as to who should be living in Palestine. Compared to Israel, Iran has a steady history of Persians, Ahmadinejad says 10,000 years, I can't defend or refute that, but it is what he believes, I at least agree with him that Israel has no roots in Palestine prior to 1948, and after 70 a.d. It would be one thing if they shared the land, but the fact that Israel's borders continue to expand is indicating they do not want the current borders but want to continue to expand.