Addressing the Albert Pike Letter: An important piece in the puzzle of the NWO

TPTB have used lies and propaganda to cause the world to believe that Religion is the cause of wars and death. In reality THEY are the ones behind not only all wars and death but they are ALSO the creators of ALL the false religions which they use to blame it all on.

The NWO terrorists are the ones behind the scenes manipulating ALL world events, including wars, revolutions, terrorism, and depressions which are carefully planned, instigated, engineered and orchestrated into existence to weaken civilization, gain profits and control, reduce the population, and create a global police state.

Here's some interesting quotes that connect a few dots:

HISTORY IS A LIE! ALL WARS ARE STARTED ON PURPOSE!
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"Wars are all based on lies, could not be fought without lies" — Charles M. Young.

“Most wars are engineered by the Illuminati to weaken civilization and create a global police state" The Illuminati want to own and control everyone. They want to be God. They contrived all the revolutions, the world wars, the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, the JFK assassination, 9-11, Iraq and Afghanistan and the "war on terror." ~ Henry Makow Ph.D.

"My working hypothesis is that most wars/conflicts are orchestrated by this satanic cult. The same people secretly manipulate events on both sides to undermine "all collective forces except our own" In other words, an Occult Elite is waging war on humanity and we don't even know it. "Who will ever suspect then that ALL THESE PEOPLES WERE STAGE-MANAGED BY US ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL PLAN WHICH NO ONE HAS SO MUCH AS GUESSED AT IN THE COURSE OF MANY CENTURIES?" (Protocol 13, emphasis mine) "

"Creating conflict makes fiendish sense. If they were to declare their true intention, they would meet opposition from all sides. Instead they create and hide behind competing forces and manipulate the outcome ensuring that "true believers" (the uncorrupted) die in the process. Everyone is so busy fighting, they can't see the real foe and the real agenda."
Henry Makow Ph.D.
How They Control the World

"War is the major way for the EVIL, sinister, insane Illuminati to control humanity." ~ Michael Shore

Interesting observations.
Intriguing propositions.
Truth seems very near.
The puppeteers though, are not like any weve confronted before.
Thus, together, and from within, is how well settle the score!!

LOVE∞

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Great thread, OP, and some really good points. I always found it odd that detractors of this letter discount that the oldest known mentions of the letter would still make it predictive of world events.


As far as programming us to think of Arabs / Muslims as terrorists before 9/11, it should be noted that terrorism by muslims did make international news before the release of that film (and MANY like it) in the 80's. Look at that issue with the terrorist attack on the olympic athletes in the 70's. They made a decent film about it a few years back.

Though it could be argued, of course, that these events themselves were "setting the stage"

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I was about to say the same thing. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and from memory it seemed there were a lot of plane hijackings in that era (I think there was a prominent boat-jacking as well).

I'm sure the Delta Force movie was a cultural response to the events of its time - it certainly didn't spring from nowhere. That said it's clear enough a piece of propaganda and would have added to the still prevalent mainstream view of muslims=terrorists. You never know, maybe some Hollywood writers are just lazy hacks

Originally posted by ABNARTY
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Thanks for the link. I pretty good investigation.

I have had the same questions but never looked into anywhere near that deep. Yet, the OP brings up a good point. If this was put out in 1955 or the 1920's or even 1871, why on Earth would Carr be discussing Zionists and Muslims? With so many other likely candidates de jour, it seems a stretch.

Exactly. How would Carr have known the tensions between the West and Muslim world would develop as they have? Given at the time both the USA and USSR had enough nukes to wipe mankind off the planet, how could Carr have known the 'cold war' was not going to end in a nuclear war and that it would serve the agenda of keeping the world divided until the time was right? How could he have known this in 1955?

Either the letter is legit, or Carr was in on top secret info and decided to fabricate the letter in order to release the info he had received. Either way, the blue print in the letter is being followed.

Originally posted by iwilliam
Great thread, OP, and some really good points. I always found it odd that detractors of this letter discount that the oldest known mentions of the letter would still make it predictive of world events.


As far as programming us to think of Arabs / Muslims as terrorists before 9/11, it should be noted that terrorism by muslims did make international news before the release of that film (and MANY like it) in the 80's. Look at that issue with the terrorist attack on the olympic athletes in the 70's. They made a decent film about it a few years back.

Though it could be argued, of course, that these events themselves were "setting the stage"

edit on 24-9-2012 by iwilliam because: (no reason given)

Good points about the fact the film may have been in response to events at the time and the writers were using that as a pretext for a movie plot.

I just found the trailer to be a little bit too unsettling, it literally reveals the 'War on Terror' and the idea America is battling for freedom and all the other notions that have come since 9/11 and used as propaganda.

In Washington, DC there is a statue of Albert Pike honoring him as a great American. They have so much gall that they erect statues of evil men who conspire to kill millions, possibly billions, of human beings.

Originally posted by RamsOnTop
In Washington, DC there is a statue of Albert Pike honoring him as a great American. They have so much gall that they erect statues of evil men who conspire to kill millions, possibly billions, of human beings.

the letter is a hoax... which explains a lot of your confusion...

Excuse me for my ignorance, but were the terms Zionist and Nazism even invented in 1871?

Originally posted by NashvilleCat
Excuse me for my ignorance, but were the terms Zionist and Nazism even invented in 1871?

Nathan Birnbaum was born into an Eastern European Jewish family in Vienna.[citation needed] He studied law, philosophy and Near Eastern studies at the University of Vienna from 1882 to 1886. In 1883, at the age of 19, he founded Kadimah, the first Jewish (Zionist) student association in Vienna, many years before Theodor Herzl became the leading spokesman of the Zionist movement. While still a student, he founded and published the periodical Selbstemanzipation! ("Self-Emancipation!" (1885–1894, with some interruptions, renamed 1894 "Juedische Volkszeitung"), often written in large part by Birnbaum himself. In it he coined the terms "Zionistic", "Zionist", "Zionism" (1890), and "political Zionism" (1892).[3]

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The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party, was a political party in Germany between 1920 and 1945.

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So the answer is no.

Again, the letter is a hoax and this thread is garbage.

I don't know, too many are too quickly dissmissive.
To me it's a "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" scenario.
If the the letter is a hoax, it's old enough that it's content is still interesting.
As with many subjects on ATS, it's SO easy to say HOAX, and be done.
Which is exactly what someone would want if these controversial ideas were indeed genuine,
and they were trying to cover them up. Let's not make it too easy for the alleged conspirators.

The letter is a hoax,follow the link posted in the comment near the bottom of page one.The article is well researched,referenced even 'illuminating' you could say.

Middle eastern terrorism pre 1986.I remember lying on the could,maybe 8 years old.1980 watching the SAS storm the Iranian Embassy.Lebanon,Beurit,Hezbollah seemingly on the news daily.Middle eastern terrorism wasnt particulary unheard of.

How could anyone predict a conflict btwn Zionistr in Islam in 1955.The state of Israel wasnt exactly born to the joy and good wishes of the Arab world.So predicting a future conflict in the Middle East was as remarkable insight as it may see.Fair enough,the Cold War kicking off would have seemed much more pressing an issue to the West but a futtre clash over the creation of Israel certainly wasnt beyond a little foresight in '55.

Dont get me wrong,that the power and influence in this world is in the hands of an elite rather than nations or the public faces of power i'd agree with wholeheartedly.

That the way things pan out are egineered in advance,I can accept too.

A dedicated sect,satan worshipping illuminati that are secretly ruling I havent seen enough solid proof to say its a fact,yet !!!

Undoubtedly we're being pushed towards war with Islam.That serves the military complex and theres nothing like war to make the people forget how bad things are getting but I'm not sold on the idea of a centuries old blueprint in which this is the next carefully ochestrated step.

Seems more like recent an oppurtunistic to me but thats my opinion.

But follow the link,read up on the truth of the letter its a fascinating in itself !!!

For all those who just cannot let go of a great story, here is what the author of that letter had to say,

Taxil, for his part, had admitted in typical form:

"The public made me what I am; the arch-liar of the period," confessed Taxil, "for when I first commenced to write against the Masons my object was amusement pure and simple. The crimes I laid at their door were so grotesque, so impossible, so widely exaggerated, I thought everybody would see the joke and give me credit for originating a new line of humor. But my readers wouldn't have it so; they accepted my fables as gospel truth, and the more I lied for the purpose of showing that I lied, the more convinced became they that I was a paragon of veracity. "Then it dawned upon me that there was lots of money in being a Munchausen of the right kind, and for twelve years I gave it to them hot and strong, but never too hot. When inditing such slush as the story of the devil snake who wrote prophecies on Diana's back with the end of his tail, I sometimes said to myself: 'Hold on, you are going too far,' but I didn't. My readers even took kindly to the yarn of the devil who, in order to marry a Mason, transformed himself into a crocodile, and, despite the masquerade, played the piano wonderfully well. "One day when lecturing at Lille, I told my audience that I had just had an apparition of Nautilus, the most daring affront on human credulity I had so far risked. But my hearers never turned a hair. 'Hear ye, the doctor has seen Nautulius,' they said with admiring glances. Of course no one had a clear idea of who Nautilus was I didn't myself but they assumed that he was a devil. Ah, the jolly evenings I spent with my fellow authors hatching out new plots, new, unheard of perversions of truth and logic, each trying to outdo the other in organized mystification. I thought I would kill myself laughing at some of the things proposed, but everything went; there is no limit to human stupidity."

link to source


It appears there is in fact, one born every minute. Long Live Stupidity!

I think at this point it is irrelevant whether the letter is a hoax or not. It is apparent that the information contained within the said letter was prophetic at the very least.

I believe that somehow this information was leaked by someone in the know and those who didn't want this information out there have taken measures to ensure that it is discredited and dismissed as a hoax. Hoax or not, the letter has existed for some time and reveals that there is most certainly a secret organization bent on world domination. They have a plan and are executing it just as the letter describes.

Very interesting thread OP.

when you look at the facts in dot point and think about it for a minute, it really doesnt take a great leap of faith to believe that this is exactly what is happening in the world as we speak. Its all layed out plain and simple, and nobody can ever say that the west doesnt have an overall agenda in the middle east theya re working too, regardless of if the plan is being executed from western powers or some other shadow organisation.

Excellent thread.

"Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

what would a guy like pike describe as what "the pure doctrine of Lucifer" is, in his context?
i think of the christian devil. but i know that hasnt always been the true meaning of that name.
what is going to happen?

Originally posted by Darkmask
I think at this point it is irrelevant whether the letter is a hoax or not. It is apparent that the information contained within the said letter was prophetic at the very least.

I believe that somehow this information was leaked by someone in the know and those who didn't want this information out there have taken measures to ensure that it is discredited and dismissed as a hoax. Hoax or not, the letter has existed for some time and reveals that there is most certainly a secret organization bent on world domination. They have a plan and are executing it just as the letter describes.

Very interesting thread OP.

This is absurd.

A hox letter doesn't in ANY WAY reveal, "there is most certainly a secret organization bent on world domination". Any more than an episode of Futurama reveals that in a thousand years some robots will smoke cigars.

It's fiction.

You may want to draw parallels between fiction and life, but that's you... it says NOTHING about the validity of the info in the hoaxed letter.

HOAX:

freemasonry.bcy.ca...

Invented by this guy:

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Wonderer2012


Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

All this hoopla and war-instigating did seem artificial to me. Even the way 'top' political figure-heads respond to each other and make announcements. Russia warning the United States and Israel about attacking Iran, also Iran's announcements.. etc. It all seems so artificial and orchestrated (since the demeanors and attitudes of the representatives do not fit the situation). It is as though a common control is playing all sides and putting on a show.

What is amazing to me is how there can be an agenda which is so rigorously executed, with such great enthusiasm, that spans many generations of humans. How can the enthusiasm for such an agenda be passed down from generation to generation?

And of course the big question - to what end?

What is the great reason for all of this exertion?

Originally posted by nOraKat
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

All this hoopla and war-instigating did seem artificial to me. Even the way 'top' political figure-heads respond to each other and make announcements. Russia warning the United States and Israel about attacking Iran, also Iran's announcements.. etc. It all seems so artificial and orchestrated (since the demeanors and attitudes of the representatives do not fit the situation). It is as though a common control is playing all sides and putting on a show.

What is amazing to me is how there can be an agenda which is so rigorously executed, with such great enthusiasm, that spans many generations of humans. How can the enthusiasm for such an agenda be passed down from generation to generation?

And of course the big question - to what end?

What is the great reason for all of this exertion?

It's a hoax.