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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by tracehd1
You teach a guy to fish for that fish, you have given him the greatest gift of all...to work for himself and not to take from others.
That's the idea.
As part of that agreement, NASA Ames officials developed the educational plan to train inmates to build the small satellite components. The partnership program is designed primarily to help "a few select inmates develop their machining skills to make them more employable in the aerospace industry upon release,"
www.space.com...
But you seem a bit...confused. First you talk about the poor guys being treated like slaves then you complain about them getting something they don't "deserve".
I feel prisoners should not get that 2nd chance when we out here need the first chance.
Working doing what? Are you a skilled machinist?
take that money along w/ the money I'm paying in Taxes to NASA and allow people like me to support my family by working.
You get to work hard and maybe just maybe you won't go back to prison.
...you can only go so far in job corps. I don't think they offer class's in being a Dr. If one wants that field, or how about class's to be an attorney? They're limited.
Originally posted by tracehd1
What I'm saying is that it's our tax dollars and I would rather see people like me, kids out of high school getting that education so that we can go out and get that 50,000k a year job. Not that hard to understand is it??
The partnership adheres to all the regulatory guidelines within the Prison Industries Enhancement certification program (PIE), which allows states and local governments to create work opportunities for prisoners.
NASA doesn’t have any plans to use the components in space at this time, according to NASA Ames Associate Director of Engineering Adriana Cardenas. “Depending on the quality, we may consider the possibility that they could be used as test articles,”
Originally posted by switching yard
How does one "hire" slaves? That's a contradiction in terms.
OP, your thesis is flawed from the get go.
Originally posted by tracehd1
Originally posted by switching yard
How does one "hire" slaves? That's a contradiction in terms.
OP, your thesis is flawed from the get go.
What's flawed is the fact that you address no points I make. Instead....you pick on me for my title. Maybe if you would have read the thread I authored
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by tracehd1
What I'm saying is that it's our tax dollars and I would rather see people like me, kids out of high school getting that education so that we can go out and get that 50,000k a year job. Not that hard to understand is it??
Do you want an education or a skill....to very different things. You keep saying education and they are not getting one that you might assume would be something like a degree, but more as in learning a skill, plus what exactly are the jobs? Are you sure you want one?
Lastly what do we do with those that show signs of positive rehabilitation, do we want to see them enter society as they were or even worst, or better, so they don't show up in your house one night?
Looking into this it was...
The partnership adheres to all the regulatory guidelines within the Prison Industries Enhancement certification program (PIE), which allows states and local governments to create work opportunities for prisoners.
NASA doesn’t have any plans to use the components in space at this time, according to NASA Ames Associate Director of Engineering Adriana Cardenas. “Depending on the quality, we may consider the possibility that they could be used as test articles,”
So the whole thing is just a part of the PIE program to rehabilitate prisoners, and the REAL parts are still made by your honest citizen. There are many Government programs...hopefully this is not one of them that you strive for......
edit on 23-9-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by tracehd1
Originally posted by switching yard
How does one "hire" slaves? That's a contradiction in terms.
OP, your thesis is flawed from the get go.
What's flawed is the fact that you address no points I make. Instead....you pick on me for my title. Maybe if you would have read the thread I authored
a) you put this thread out there and absolutely everyone has the right to pick on you for the p!ss poor choice of words in the title. Own your mistakes.
b) I did read most of the thread. It's much ado about nothing. You seem to prefer to have prisons as pure punishment. For reasons I can't fathom you ignore the fact that every prisoner who is reformed (even if the chances are slim) will save the society a pretty penny, if they hopefully avoid incarceration for the remainder of their lives, and it will save some people from being victims of future crimes.
By the way if you really want to enroll into a vocational school and learn to be a machinist, or some similar profession, I don't see what would stop you.