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The American Civil Liberties Union will go to court on Thursday in an attempt to get the CIA to hand over documents related to President Barack Obama's controversial "targeted killing" programme that uses unmanned drones to strike suspected Islamic militants.
Anwar al-Awlaki’s family speaks out against his son’s death in airstrike
By Peter Finn and Greg Miller, Published: October 17, 2011
In the days before a CIA drone strike killed al-Qaeda operative Anwar al-Awlaki last month, his 16-year-old son ran away from the family home in Yemen’s capital of Sanaa to try to find him, relatives say. When he, too, was killed in a U.S. airstrike Friday, the Awlaki family decided to speak out for the first time since the attacks.
“To kill a teenager is just unbelievable, really, and they claim that he is an al-Qaeda militant. It’s nonsense,” said Nasser al-Awlaki, a former Yemeni agriculture minister who was Anwar al-Awlaki’s father and the boy’s grandfather, speaking in a phone interview from Sanaa on Monday. “They want to justify his killing, that’s all.”
The teenager, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who was born in Denver in 1995, and his 17-year-old Yemeni cousin were killed in a U.S. military strike that left nine people dead in southeastern Yemen.
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by TTAA2012
Your point? Are you saying a 16-year-old cannot kill you? If I remember correctly, Iran used teenagers as their main stay for suicide attacks when they were attacking back at Iraq. The Teens go in first, then the older men came in behind them. They do the same thing today.
Even the Muslim men were shocked at the ferocity of the teens charging at machine gun nest; this is when Arabic Muslim beliefs took over the noticeably different Persian Muslims. Which we, the Western nations, put him into power, and it is now biting us in the ass.
It isn't a good idea to sit down and eat a meal with terrorist. Precision strikes hurt.edit on 20-9-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
The point is, that as American citizens, if the government had evidence that they were bad guys, they were entitled to a trial. ... How do we know which American citizen they may designate as a bad guy (and wipe with a drone) next? Do you trust Obama on that? The CIA?
i belive the us also now classifies a militant as a male of combat age in a cmobat zone so they dont have to report civilian deaths anymore.
Originally posted by Extant
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
The point is, that as American citizens, if the government had evidence that they were bad guys, they were entitled to a trial. ... How do we know which American citizen they may designate as a bad guy (and wipe with a drone) next? Do you trust Obama on that? The CIA?
That depends on the circumstances. Citizenship does not impose an obligation on the government to afford someone a trial. If an individual is participating in the hostilities then he becomes a legitimate target, irrespective of his citizenship.
But I agree with the questions you raise concerning drone attacks. And for me the questions go beyond trust issues. I am unconvinced of the legality of these drone attacks. The principle I described for instance is applicable to armed conflict on a battlefield, and the United States not only has unilaterally redefined the meaning of battlefield to mean the whole world, it has basically redefined the meaning of war.
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
The point is, that as American citizens, if the government had evidence that they were bad guys, they were entitled to a trial.
you miss the point, its knowingly targetting americans abroad for assassination.Knowingly them key word.
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
The point is, that as American citizens, if the government had evidence that they were bad guys, they were entitled to a trial.
So before anybody is killed in a war you have to ask them for proof of their nationality, and if they are a yank you have to give them a trial.... whilst anybody else you can just kill!
I suppose they also give a trial to the US troops that they kill?