Apple Commandeered My Ipad Tonight

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
reply to post by moniesisfun

 

www.intel.com...

I set this up to run with SCCM for a previous employer. Control of any system, anywhere in the world, as long as there's an internet connection nearby.

edit on 20-9-2012 by Evil_Santa because: (no reason given)

Your right, the ONLY way to screw with Intel's vPro kill switch is to rip out the wireless card. Notice in laptops with the new chips with Intel vPro......"heh where's the wireless card and the little PCIe socket?????".........pretty tricky weren't they?

reply to post by Pervius


Yeah, i'm incredibly familiar with vPro technology - after deploying SCCM (system center configuration manager) for a enterprise, setting up the public key infrastructure, and flashing the proper certs/settings to all the laptops with vPro procs, i have about 1.5 years experience with this tech.

It's pretty wild stuff, and if what the OP described is true (which wouldn't surprise me in the least when dealing with Apple junk) then it's quite possible Apple has a clause in their EULA/TOS for the iPad that allows them to hook into a device, at any time, to transmit data.

If you have an Intel proc and are worried about who may have control of your system, then you can use the following program (warning: reading and technical knowledge required to use successfully - i've never had to wipe vPro data, so i'm unfamiliar with this software, but improper use may result in issues with your system, use extreme caution! ) to wipe the vPro ROM.

downloadcenter.intel.com... s&lang=eng



Here's a whole list of vPro utilities.

communities.intel.com...

Wait for Microsofts Windows 8 tablets... I think they will be very good.

I dont find Apple very exciting and Android is not very inventive anymore. But the new win tablets will be something quite different and thats fun if you are into exploring things.

At the end of the day though, its all just toys to play with.

Originally posted by Pervius

Originally posted by buddhasystem
......... it's not in fact possible to operate network equipment (which is quite power-hungry) without a power source. .......

""""Intel vPro technology is an umbrella marketing term used by Intel for a collection of computer hardware technologies to enable management features such as remote access to the PC (including monitoring, maintenance, and management) INDEPENDENT OF THE STATE OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM (OS) OR POWER STATE OF THE PC""""

en.wikipedia.org...

Does the Apple A5 processor have the same capability as Intel vPro? ....classified.

The Wiki article is incorrect, or rather, imprecise. One has to go to real documentation to confirm the obvious, which is no electronic circuit can function without electric power.

link 1
link 2

Essentially:

a) functionality is limited to reading contents of a flash memory chip, not a bit deal
b) there must be a circuit powered by tapping current independently of the main system power supply. If you unplug the device, it goes off the radar.

Maybe you meant exactly that. So I misunderstood the "power off" part in that case. There can be various degrees of "power off".

Cheers!

Originally posted by Bodhi911

Wait for Microsofts Windows 8 tablets... I think they will be very good.

I dont find Apple very exciting and Android is not very inventive anymore.

You seem to be looking for fun for the sake of fun. I personally find tons of use for my Android devices, they help in a thousand different ways, from educating kids to watching a show on my big screen TV to doing some admin work via ssh. How's all that "not very inventive", beats me.

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Epirus

 

Well until tonight, neither have I. And it was only for 30 min or so. You could have missed your window, lucky you.... Think about it though... Brand new Apple product out, and then this happens. Is this maybe a trial to see how folks respond to this form of advertising? I can save them the future effort... My blood pressure went up a good 50. 86 this idea you @$@$))(.....

Most importantly, what I want to know is how did they do this? Does anyone know?

edit on 19-9-2012 by elouina because: (no reason given)

sounds like it's in the software and waits for a wifi detection to activate. as for why it stayed on for 30 minutes i have no idea although that sounds like a glitch to me.

Sounds like the iPad's demo mode. They usually behave like this on Apple stores.
Maybe you somehow triggered it. Perhaps a bad update or something.

Did you take any screenshots? (press both the home and lock buttons at the same time)

Originally posted by SpearMint
Apple products are overpriced and overrated anyway, just get a Nexus 7 or something.

Not only are they overpriced and overrated, but also artificially limited just because apple knows best. You cant even run a irc client in background without IOS shutting it down for you all because they think you are too stupid to be able to shut it down manually. The reasoning they use is that having tasks running in background will drain the battery.
You are also completely locked to their apple store which means they have full control of which software you run on it.
Anyone who cares about freedom or their privacy should boycott apple products.

Originally posted by moniesisfun
reply to post by Pervius

 

Even when the computer is turned off

I don't see how that's technically feasible.

The only juice outside of the main power source is the cmos battery to my knowledge.

Are you saying the cmos gets tapped to run this chip...and mysteriously connects to the internet

you need juice for the board to run..the nic...I just don't see this happening..sorry.

I am sure he is talking more about standby.. And most people use laptops these days, which means it is nearly always hooked up to a battery. Most people also turn off their desktop computers by shutting it down through windows or by using the software power button in front. If you dont switch off the psu/disconnect it then it will still recieve power. Being able to power on a computer remotely using lan has been around for ages, so this is not new at all.

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Not an Apple fan, but if you think using a Google OS is somehow less pernicious than Apple then I just have to laugh.

At least android does not treat their users like complete retards and actually let you customize it, lets you multitask with applications running in background.
But when it comes to privacy I dont think google/android is much better. What we need is fully open source OS for tablets/smartphones like for example linux.

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Not an Apple fan, but if you think using a Google OS is somehow less pernicious than Apple then I just have to laugh.

Are you still laughing? Good. When done, improve your education by looking at links like these:

Developing for Apple devices

Running your own Android app

Android is wide open to the developers (and hackers, if you will), while you need to get CERTIFIED by Apple just to drop a "Hello World!" app on your iPhone. Yes, it's that restrictive.

Kindle has similar restrictions, and requires you to pay, but that's not a true Android anyhow.

reply to post by bellagirl

My husband needed to get one for work about 6 or 7 months ago and he paid around $200 with a contract for it. Hope that helps.

I personally refuse to carry a smart phone, I only have a cell just in case, but my husband had to get one for work and has the iphone 4s (?). I don't know if it was system related or weather related, but his tones all shut off on him last night for about a half hour or so. Then when it started to work again, the only sound it would make was his incoming call tone. I am not very tech savvy in any way, and I don't know that it is related, but he couldn't figure it out either no matter what he did.

Coming soon to a world near you...

"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself--anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face...; was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime..." - George Orwell, 1984

Originally posted by Ahmose
Well, That's what you get for falling for and buying apple crap. lol

Stick with Android or go with nothing.

At least then you have some control. lol

edit on 20-9-2012 by Ahmose because: (no reason given)

Won both of my Ipads, so they were both free. The funny thing is I was trying to give one to my daughter and wasn't even sure if I would use the other. I already had another first generation Samsung tablet PC that I had won. And my daughter said the Iphone she had was plenty so passed on it. Swing forward, and now my Ipad is always in my purse and my husband uses the other one daily also.

Originally posted by Arkleseizure
Sounds like the iPad's demo mode. They usually behave like this on Apple stores.
Maybe you somehow triggered it. Perhaps a bad update or something.

Did you take any screenshots? (press both the home and lock buttons at the same time)

Not certain I explained what happened very well. That Apple page only popped up everytime I tried to access the internet such as when trying to download email or use Safari. Thus all internet activity was commandeered by Apple. If using any other non internet feature, it was not present. What I was presented with was what I Iater found to be a fully functional Apple home page without browser controls. Haven't updated my Ipad in over half a year.

And like I said, I did accidentally take a screenshot, and deleted it before I decided to post. But I can't find a way to restore it. If anyone could help me with this. But still it was just an Apple home page without browser controls.

Anyways, I am leaning towards a misconfiguration of the wireless log on screen. Everytime I use that particular wireless, I have to check off a box on a screen saying I agree to their terms. Maybe that screens programming had an issue? But why would Apple show in its place?

reply to post by Pervius


you're confused. it uses juice from the battery in a laptop or the wall. just reading it incorrectly.

Originally posted by moniesisfun
reply to post by Pervius

 

you're confused. it uses juice from the battery in a laptop or the wall. just reading it incorrectly.

Ipad owners ain't going to be removing any Ipad batteries. If Apple's A5 processor has the same capability as Intel's vPro......they have a hidden kernel running to do .......things.

reply to post by Pervius


paranoid, too!

This was a bug. The page that the iOS uses to test if wifi is behind a paywall (such as at some hotspots) was returning a 404. Short version where you would normally get a hotspot login page you instead got the Apple home page. It was fixed after about 30 minutes yesterday.

It wasn't some ad thing as the bug kept people from being able to log into hotspots properly.

Zaphod

reply to post by elouina


Now I found out, it was Apple's server bug. It's just that I recall seeing both a "back" and "forward" navigation buttons on the popover and you said it had no controls. Newer iOS might have changed it, since I ditched my iPhone a while back.

Don't let your guard down anyway. It's known that Apple has some kind of killswitch installed on their devices which lets them delete any app at will. Who knows what else they've programmed into the OS.