Egypt charges Coptic Christians linked to infamous video

Egypt charges Coptic Christians linked to infamous video

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(CNN) -- Egyptian authorities have charged seven Coptic Christians living in the United States and a Florida pastor with insulting Islam and inciting sectarian strife for their alleged links to an online video that has enraged much of the Muslim world.

Egypt's public prosecutor announced the charges Tuesday, the latest development in the deadly backlash against the low-budget, amateurish 14-minute movie trailer produced privately in the United States and posted on YouTube.

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Firstly.

Lol.

Secondly, I wonder how that extradition request is going to go?

This is all getting to be a bit little much can't we agree?

I mean criminal charges for being offended? I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is cleary a move to appease the extremists.

~Tenth

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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is clearly a move to appease the extremists.

So, the extremists are appeasing themselves. Are these "Egyptian officials" not a part of the same group of outraged Islamic extremists that have been rioting recently?

wasn't the film made in the states? if so, they weren't breaking any laws here, other than good taste laws by producing the worst bit of filmmaking I've ever seen.

I don't know why this whole situation seems to snowballing to the brink of insanity.

You almost wonder what is perpetuating this issue. Have their not been other more main stream show that have taken a crack st this Islamic faith. South Park and family guy come to mind.

It seems to me that this fire is being continually stoked by some unknown force. Thanks for the info tenth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower


Firstly.

Lol.

Secondly, I wonder how that extradition request is going to go?

This is all getting to be a bit little much can't we agree?

I mean criminal charges for being offended? I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is cleary a move to appease the extremists.


~Tenth

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Its almost as funny as Iran blaming someone for taking their rain clouds.

Lol

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
this is cleary a move to appease the extremists.

Any parent worth his/her weight in peanut butter knows that 'appeasing' bad behavior, i.e. a hissy fit, only feeds such behavior ...

Toned down, the two compare quite nicely, parenting and extremists ...

If you serve your child green beans for dinner, and the child throws the plate against the wall to express his distaste, do you apologize for serving green beans?

Or do you discipline the child for throwing the plate?

A hissy fit is a hissy fit ... Sometimes it's plates against the wall, and sometimes it's setting fire to an embassy and killing an ambassador ...

Governments world wide are run by horrible parents ...

Originally posted by tothetenthpower


Firstly.

Lol.

Secondly, I wonder how that extradition request is going to go?

This is all getting to be a bit little much can't we agree?

I mean criminal charges for being offended? I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is cleary a move to appease the extremists.

~Tenth

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Wow. It really sucks to be a Coptic Christian, doesn't it. They get the blame for EVERYTHING.
Cue violence in 3... 2... 1...

Firstly. Lol. Secondly, I wonder how that extradition request is going to go?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

Good luck with that then.......................................

Oh, I needed that

Well the US charges peole for crimes not comminted on US soil, the Spanish charged Allende, all sorts of people are making complaints about miscellaneous dictators and other bad dudes to the ICC, etc.

Why should moslems miss out??

Originally posted by benri
Seems its time our president steps up and tells the Egyptian government to STFU.

You expect the man who signed the National Defense Authorization Act into law to stand up for our liberties?

So a bunch of butthurt Muslims want a Christian dead. It's the better alternative to war - which is just down the road either way. As long as they keep playing the "your 1st Amendment is intolerant of our religion so we're going to behead you" card, there is nothing new under the sun.

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Why should moslems miss out??

Very true, very true indeed.

Perhaps, I can charge a few people too? How about you? You insulted my imaginary friend and I'm going to get you, just you watch out now!! Expect papers in the post!

I think USA tends to charge people with actual crimes?

Disclaimer: Aloysius the Gaul this is a joke.

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I got it

Sadly however the death penalty for insulting mohammed, etc., is not a joke in the moslem world!

Until this insane argument that the film is behind this is set aside, it won't be dealt with in any meaningful way.

The real debate is between a genuine free society or a false Democracy under a Theocracy. There can be no freedom for Muslims or anyone else unless religion is separated from government.

This is likely an attempt to calm the situation by the Egyptian leadership. They know it's a useless act, but it may work to calm things down used as a propaganda tool. They are seen to take aggressive action, while not actually taking any real action. Shame our media chooses to ignite more fires rather than view it honestly.

Originally posted by LeatherNLace

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is clearly a move to appease the extremists.

So, the extremists are appeasing themselves.

Are these "Egyptian officials" not a part of the same group of outraged Islamic extremists that have been rioting recently?

No, actually, they're not.
They're actually far more moderate than people seem to think. They've stated several times that violence is not acceptable, and that peaceful protest is the way to express their anger.

It's disappointing to me that, while they are by no means liberal and intelligent, the new administration in Egypt is not automatically "extremist" just because they're Muslim. This is an old mindset led by western propaganda, and it's about time people started to actively reject it publicly.

On the OP, this is probably nothing more than a way of appeasing those more extreme in nature, showing that the government is doing something, while they're actually not able to do anything.

While many in these countries are NOT protesting, or calling for the executions of people, or the destruction of the "West", many are probably still not entirely clear on how freedom works. Lets not forget that these people grew up under dictatorships. You can't expect entire nations to change overnight and become all accepting of complete freedom of speech.

Their nations were highly controlled, and freedom of opinion was fine as long as it was the opinion of Mubarak, or Gaddafi, or *insert despot here*.

Basically, they love the idea of freedom and democracy, but they can't reconcile that with their religious brainwashing. Kind of like the Republican party and their complete inability to comprehend the American sense of freedom with their religious demand of subjugating gay people, or their mentality of "Christian kindness and morality" conflicting with their corporate greed.

I think the Daily Show nailed this situation pretty well.

They started complainin about Muslim behavior, then it was pointed out that Islam was only 1,400 years old, so they were just acting like teenagers.

When you look at the behavior of the Church of Rome, or Whore of Banylon if you prefer, it's not that bad.



So will we see Scientologists killing folks over cartoons of Ron Hubard in 3500 BC?

Are they going to add Scooter Libby, David Koch and the Hudson Institute? They were behind the Egyptians who made the film.

The guys who made the video.


So who works at the Hudson Institute? Somebody most people have heard of. Lewis Libby. You don't know him by that name. You probably know him by the name he uses all the time. Scooter Libby.

The Hudson Institute form 990 shows he makes around two hundred thousand dollars a year there.

dynamodata.fdncenter.org...

And I also find interesting that David Koch is a big donor to the Hudson Institute.

www.americanprogressaction.org...

Originally posted by LeatherNLace

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I understand that Egypt isn't the most stable of places right now, but this is clearly a move to appease the extremists.

So, the extremists are appeasing themselves.

Are these "Egyptian officials" not a part of the same group of outraged Islamic extremists that have been rioting recently?

I'm pretty sure the officials mostly consist of the Muslim Brotherhood. So with that, they aren't only appeasing themselves but are dead serious and that's because they are the extremists.

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I think Ricky Gervaise summed it up pretty well yesterday:

"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh no........wait.......that never happens"

bloody typical ... they protest the film westerners complain... they file charges against the film makers westerners complain and laugh ... then westerners wonder why the rest of the world has little to no respect for them ...

at least egypt is making an effort to solve the problem in a more civilized manner now rather than continuing with violence..