Abductee support group thread

I am not saying "Alien Abduction" has never happened, But I do have a hard time believing that it soooo widespread. Travis Walton's story still to me seems pretty convincing. Even though some have "Debunked" it. It is still pretty convincing if you ask me! Anyway to all of those who REALLY have been abducted and are not just crazy and or wanting attention it would be great to hear your stories. What is so upsetting about this topic is there are so may WACKJOBS out there sometimes its hard to tell the real stories from the fake ones...Now some people CLEARLY are just nuts, but others not so much...

Originally posted by Stimpy

 

 

Wait a minute. What was wrong with his post here? Not to mention, he's the OP. I see others who are way more off-topic and their posts aren't deleted...and then there's the point that it's his thread. Something wrong here, imo. Must be why I'm not a mod.

reply to post by Unity_99


just to let everyone know, i do not come here to 'solicit'; rather to find other abductees and see if any would like to congregate without the bs that goes on here and other places...sorry, i do love ats, and like reading the conspiracies, etc., but, for the most part, this line is pretty much like the others--in other words, any topic at all has to inevitably lead to the subtopic of whether we are all not crazy ::rolleyes;; big waste of time

months ago, when i was faced with just trying to get out people's various stories(no agenda--just the facts ma'm)a couple of us started this little line; i invite all experiencers, abductees to come visit, or maybe just exhale youarenotalone.freeforums.org... yes, it is new, but the whole concept is for us to be able to talk about this stuff without fear of derision, skepticiam--and to go one beyond that, to where we can perhaps find some knowledge from, each other's experienxces..

we have this knowledge, something...we can help each other, and who knows, maybe there are others we can assist. but we must have some sort of felllowship, it is essential...we are going to lose something very important if we all get complacent with our self imposed isolation

reply to post by julia53


I never said you came to solicit. I am stating, as an experiencer, who has noted for a long time, what happens to threads about experiencers, that this is not a great place to have out of the box sharing amongst experiencers, and that instead of furthering the discussion memories or things, its just continually reanswering to skeptics that no, this is not delusion, yes this exists, its classified information, and then wash, rinse, repeat that particularly mind boggling boring scenario, over and over again, and no ones wants to share.

I am an experiencer, saw my first grey at 4, have had the whole family witness ufo's and one of my sons missing time, and my brother, and we know, we're not guessing, and would love what I just posted to not be true, but unfortunately even the grey area is this constant repeat the same old put downs. That is not a safe and sensitive atmosphere to share in, which is what most would require.

reply to post by julia53


Looks interesting. I'll join it and post a few things that haven't gone down well here and some other places. I hardly post about this sort of thing because it's always torn to shreds by deniers, skeptics, and others of their kind. When I say "torn to shreds", I do not mean debunked. I mean discounted out of hand and given the famous "that's stupid" or some sort of spiel about how "physics doesn't work that way". We need to get all the other life in the multiverse to obey our human/terrestrial version of physics, and also to stay still so our pix can come out clearer.

reply to post by Unity_99


i appreciate that, and actually the remark was not like 'aimed' at you at all; just throwing out an alternative to not speaking of these things on a public line. you know, i am not a real big member here yet, i spent a lot of time at the other 'alien/ufo' forum, and, i remember being told by a moderator there(who i thought was a friend)that if we didn't want to have disparaging remarks and constant challenges we should go to a more 'private line'...so i asked her where one was, funny she didn't have anywhere to send us all...

no, i agree that ats and some other 'popular' forums are simply not the place to post; as it is, when a true abductee or experiencer comes on, i am always waiting for someone to jump on them...and then watch as they disappear forever, sometimes. i remember once, there was this young kid, gee, i think he was like 17? fascinating person in general, but had this little issue with health problems that could not be explained..and he did have memory, boy, did he..i liked him very much, and tried to talk to him as much as i could, but the skeps got to him, he was so young..and he wound up going a little nutty and getting 'suspended'..no one ever could find him. we all worried about him..

if you do visit the line or the site, it so reminds me of the one thread we have about post abduction syndrome. a real problem with all of us. one of the main issues is of course the attacking and belittling, which actually does a whole lot more than just the usual isolation that comes from any trauma which is not recognized. depression, addiction, even suicide has been known to occur...i sometimes wonder if those who are so interested in 'saving' us have any clue as to what they are doing, especially to those who are not as 'hardened' as some of us have had to come to be...

reply to post by CosmicEgg


hey that would be great, yes please post your ideas, we would welcome them..we are all committed to providing a safe place for experiencers and abductees, believers...it gets so damn boring and tiring even presenting an idea when, like you said, it is dismissed out of hand immediately. i remember once on the 'other' line i presented the idea of time going backwards--now i had had it happen, it was weird, i documented it, the sun, etc., and as this happened several times(i would guess it was about two hours or so?)i was able to note some things about it. anyway, when i presented what i had found you would not believe(or maybe you can)the comments..

later, i remembered a history doc where it showed an uso coming out and that those on the ship actually saw the clock going backwards,,,and that it wasn't the clock malfunctioning, hours really were being repeated somehow..i just thought, what are these forums here for anyway? i mean, we can't even get into what is already on mainstream tv?? shoot, i would like to delve into other aspects, there are so many to study and research..

reply to post by r2d246

Nah, my family has no ties to the occult.
I saw a website that tried to link demon possesion and alien abduction , . I cant repeat point by point specifics , but they did a good job, and any abductee would have to consider they are being toyed with. As much as i would like to think im the one guy they leveled with, i am left pondering what happened to me.
But im not complaining really, as everyday was very interesting in their company. "buy the ticket, take the ride"

Originally posted by Druscilla

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Druscilla

 

Are you saying that alien abduction isn't happening or has never happened?

Not trying to come off as a, you know what, I am just curious.

-SAP-

Please note, I use words like 'majority', 'most', and other such quantities that still leave open margin for whatever it is that anyone wants to believe or have faith in.

I see. "Have faith" generally refers to religion. It's funny how people can make the connection between "faith" and "aliens".

Everyone is entitled to a opinion. All I am going to say about this.

-SAP-

reply to post by Stimpy


Abductions. A delicate phenomenon. For someone who hasn't lived such an experience, it can very easily be seen as a psychological disorder, a mental illness or even a brain glitch. For someone who has lived such an experience, it is knowing. Nothing to do with a belief or faith. Abductions are not something anyone wishes for, they happen. Without liberty of choice, without a mutual agreement, without a hint that it might happen.

It leaves the abductee with numerous questions, a quest for truth.

Truthful answers to questions as to Why? and Why me? And it often turns into a lifelong quest.

So anyone think aliens and the afterlife are somehow connected?

Like Human alien has replied, aside from time being non existent, I really don't see the connection.

S&F for a good topic !

Dru, I'm going to have to say I respectfully your first post here is way off topic in this thread. The way I see it, the OP wanted to use this thread for talking to other abductees, not debating the issue of whether or not abductions happen. I read the thread you cited in your post, and there it has a point. Here, it really doesnt.

reply to post by CosmicEgg

Thanks CosmicEgg for defending my deleted post.Im suprised yours didnt get deleted haha.........now to go back on topic
As for my missing time, it was very rough on my body, i did think i was half dead or something during my experience, as it lasted for a couple months, and i had a brief encounter as a kid, (10 or 11) and i remember a odd feeling then, and it was much worse as a adult, i was somewhat healthy during my adult encounter, and i had a broad daylight case of missing time. Here is a little something about my experience that sounds odd, when my case of missing time began, i started to fade out, like i felt very weird, then i began to see a certain color all around me, then i wasnt alert , i regained alertness ( like full alertness, not middle of the night sleepy waking up , i mean like im on point and sharp) then i fade out, now heres the interesting part, i was standing the whole time, when i regained alertness completely , it was 4 or 5 hours later, and i was falling forward gasping for air, i was in my garage, it was 5 pm or so in the summer,so when i regained control of my body i was scared, and starting to panic, so i got in my car to just drive around , ( as im sure most of you would do also, sitting comfortably really isnt a option during a moment like that ) and i was soo drained of energy i couldnt even drive, what ever missing time is, it for sure is rough on the body, or at least mine.
i always wondered the meaning of missing time, i looked at it as technology of some sort, maybe to speak to humans with telepathy they need to re wire something in the brain? I dunno, im just guessing,
So the reason im speaking on missing time, this is the part of my experience that scared me the most, as i felt so powerless when it was over, during encounters with 'them' that wasnt missing time, i never was really scared.
So if someone reads this thread that just had missing time, im guessing your experience is just starting, and to just enjoy every second of it. Its all downhill when the experience is over and 'they' leave for good.

reply to post by julia53


As I said, I have no memory of the event, but it was prior to the first moon landing and when my toddler-aged sister started talking about how we went for a ride in a rocket ship and were taken to another planet, how someday cars would run on energized roads, and so many other things, one must give pause for thought.

It helps to know also that even without my memory of this stuff, I still ended up in mentally gifted classes from fourth grade on, and it was apparently because my school records took so long to physically catch up with me. Being a Navy family, we moved frequently, often from one coast to the other and back again within a year. Interestingly, my sisters did not. I don't know why not though because we're all, to my mind, all of similar intelligence, which makes me wonder (as I always had done) what they were really about. There may have been some particular trait they homed in on that made us attractive candidates that really had less to do with the specific IQ score.

I have seen UFOs many times since and only once was I quite frightened. I don't know why I was then and on no other occasion in my life.

I've been part of some forums especially for abductees to share with each other, and I ended up fading away from them, for a few reasons.

They always ended up being "infiltrated" with both outspoken non-experiencer critics, but even worse, the experiencer wanna-be's!

Honestly, I feel more comfortable with the skeptics- I can relate. I used to be with them, I understand their skepticism, and think it is healthy!

But the ones that believe in ET's and are wistfully watching the skies and wanting to know "how to get them to come get me" I must admit, I have a pretty repulsed reaction to; I guess I am resentful and hostile because I feel like it is they that make a healthy skeptic turn into a fanatic mocking exaggerated tormentor!

So often it is assumed by such skeptics that the abductees and these believers are the same. I remember a cousin of mine saying once in front of me (I do not know if he knew about our experiences) that he couldn't understand why some people get so focused on silly stuff like alien abduction when there is real scientific stuff going on to be interested in instead.

I remember feeling really mad. Of course I am interested in many other things, but how do you just shrug and not look further for answers when something like that happens to you??
I realized later that he was thinking that people who have this happen to them were FIRST interested in the subject (that is why it happened, or why they imagined it).

That makes me mad, because I had no interest in paranormal crap, I knew nothing about any of it, I heard of UFO's, but like anyone, thought that was refering to people looking at lights in the night sky that are airplanes and satelites! I never had enough interest in it to even ask further!
I didn't choose these experiences, I didn't search them out, and it feels like telling a rape victim that they were asking for it somehow.

(taking a breath)
So... yeah, the "believers" make me hostile; and they are always attracted to such forums, and it repulses me.
I guess I brought this up because your post, Julia, made me reflect on that aspect of my hostile reactions.

reply to post by Bluesma


wow, I never knew believers, such as I am, are hated or disliked by those that have been abducted.
Backing out of thread now

Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by Bluesma

 

wow, I never knew believers, such as I am, are hated or disliked by those that have been abducted.
Backing out of thread now

i could be wrong, but i don't think that's what bluesma was saying homer.. look, i will take a believer(who isn't all goo goo eyed lol)over a skeptic anyday; i don't know about anyone else, but even with a little forum i just don't have all day to be on...life goes on..and when something does happen, i would not mind sharing it once in awhile, without some guy telling me it 'musta been a bear then' ::rolleyes:: i mean, talk about wasting time...

no i think what it is, is that there are many who think this is a picnic, or like you said, blues, that somehow we were interested in this crap and so now believe ourselves to be have been taken--almost all of the abductees i have met in fact were less than happy about the possibility, and, many were a lot like me, in that i have always had an aversion to the alien things; could not stand the depictions in close encounter, for example, tho the light show was pretty right on..

thing is, there is so much going on with the visitors that what i find the most disturbing and depressing is when other abductees will not look at all the facets of the picture. i was recently talking to an audrey from 'starborn support(okay, with the name, i shoulda known better, i know)and here is this woman who supposedly has been being kidnapped for years and wants to tell me that it is all for the good...and that she helps people to 'overcome their negative feelings' about such takings. sounded like more propaganda to me, and i wondered, does no one really care about all the horror stories out there? this is like saying, during ww2, 'well, only SOME people had it bad'. if one suffers it changes everything, does it not? if one animal is found in your home, mutilated cleanly after a probable sighting, this does not matter? how about if YOUR granddaughter at three, that's right, three years old could identify them because she saw them on your farm? and called them 'nasty boys'?

okay...whew...little rant over lol...just saying, these entities are the most invasive beings i have ever encountered..even the nazis had papers and did it during the day...

reply to post by HomerinNC

Dont leave HomerinNC,
I think your a great part of every thread you are in.
I am a long time lurker , and do enjoy your insight.

Originally posted by Stimpy
reply to post by HomerinNC

 

Dont leave HomerinNC,
I think your a great part of every thread you are in.
I am a long time lurker , and do enjoy your insight.

I absolutely agree with everything you've just said !!

Originally posted by SonoftheSun

Originally posted by Stimpy
reply to post by HomerinNC

 

Dont leave HomerinNC,
I think your a great part of every thread you are in.
I am a long time lurker , and do enjoy your insight.

I absolutely agree with everything you've just said !!

Thank you, I was kinda shocked...i honestly had no idea some abductees felt that way about believers, I know alot of them have had a traumatic expirence

reply to post by HomerinNC

Glad your back,
I never complain about the traumatic part , as if i was given a choice i would pay or sacrafice anything to know if 'aliens' are real.
And i still dont know what a 'alien' really is.
I keep lurking on this site in hopes some abductee has a message for people that i feel could be genuine, like i i feel current abductees have some info that may be crucial to people in general.
And this info will only fall on open ears, whether or not they are abductees.
Its so hard to find current abductees.I really want to hunt them down and question them, maybe dress in all black, MIB style and freak them out haha kiddin