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Viracocha Incan God There is a pre-Incan legend that speaks of Viracocha who is depicted in many forms. There is a duality about this deity, which is not unlike gods in other civilizations - the good god and the warrior side to his personality. We see him as he enlightened god in the white robes who brings knowledge and the warrior god with staves in his hands and a sun symbol around his head, not unlike the sun god Ra in ancient Egypt. As we third dimension is a duality - all things have good and evil characteristics - including the gods of all myths. Viracocha - as duality is depicted as the sun god of creation [wearing a sun crown] and the moon god. Viracocha, as the feathered serpent god, is one of the great mysteries of ancient American cultures. He was called, Kukulkan by the Mayas Quetzalcoatl by the Aztecs Viracocha by the Incas Gucumatz in central America Votan in Palenque Zamna in Izamal Pre-Inca religions centered in Tiahuanaco City which is where we first learn of a cult of a sky and thunder god named Viracocha. Gods with thunder bolts link with Zeus the main god of ancient Greece.
Atlanteans Chiquitet, Tehuti - Zep Tepi Zep Tepi is Genesis. Zep means Time. Tepi means First. Together they are the First Time or the Golden Age [Alchemy] where the gods moved through the Void and created our reality. The ancient Egyptians who named them the Zep Tepi. They were the Pantheon of Egyptian Gods, Ptah, Ra, Su, Seb, Set, Osiris, [associated with Orion - god of resurrection and rebirth], Horus, Ma, and Thoth who came to this realm, based on the precession of the equinoxes, approximately 12,500 year ago - give or take a few hundred years. Their sacred message was recorded in the Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean who, as the God, Tehuti, was the ruler of Atlantis for an unknown period of time, coming and going through the story of its existence. Persia As the Prophet Zarathustra or Zoroaster The list of roles this soul played is endless from all mythological pantheon gods - religious figures - to famous people in science and history, creational forces including alien gods, etc... According to a very old Masonic tradition, the Egyptian god Thoth had played a major part in preserving knowledge of the mason craft and transmitting it to mankind after the flood. Our reality is a Masonic Program [mother sound - creation by harmonics]
Originally posted by cenpuppie
reply to post by MamaJ
Well, of course. That's one of the great secrets. What you give you get in return, "she" doesn't play. Negative out, negative in. Positive out... positive in. Anyone paying attention to the experiments the Japanese are doing with water?
Call it Karma, God, universal consciousness, the flying spaghetti monster, whatever.
Edgar just went to hard in the paint (worked to hard) and it caught up him, it seems that making that connection is draining. Now, i really want to get my hands on some of his materials.
Buddists and Hindus believe in reincarnation as well, can't over look the phenomenon because it might offend. And that's the paradigm that's being hit on. "My way or the highway". The bible could be written so that those that more concerned about "getting" into heaven will not make it (IE those that do it simply because they don't want to go to hell) while those that are devoted to a spiritual growth do make it.
Think about it.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
Jesus did not teach Reincarnation, and he did Not go to India.
Brother did go to many places not listed in the bible. If the bible detailed everything he did, no one would read it, as it would be too large. Many do have to come back unto life to "learn". But, it will be at the new cycle, not during a current cycle.
Kinda like this?
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Now... Here is a spin!!!
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" The Hermes world is a state of consciousness projected out to the outer world until the inner becomes a reflection" ( dual again) !!!
reply to post by NewAgeMan
so while he need not have had prior incarnations he integrated those incarnations, and so therefore it's impossible to differentiate between the two, whether he was their reincarnation or fulfillment and full embodiment.
Originally posted by DieHateCry
i'll say this u truly think out side the box now i am wondering if you have any thing on wicca beleaved by many to be for worship lucifer it is a complicated subject i try to read as much as i can about the subject but i cant find any thing soild i under stand what it is but why it is i cant figure out
Originally posted by MamaJ
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel as though the Freemasons are not evil at all. I believe they will be the good guys in the end. The elite are the NWO!
Originally posted by MamaJ
In regards to the Freemasonry it seems as their symbols may match the evil side but they also represent the good too. Balance?
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by MamaJ
Originally posted by MamaJ
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel as though the Freemasons are not evil at all. I believe they will be the good guys in the end. The elite are the NWO!
Maybe Freemasons ARE good but there are some infiltrators even there, that wants to do the NWO.
Originally posted by MamaJ
In regards to the Freemasonry it seems as their symbols may match the evil side but they also represent the good too. Balance?
The symbols are Pagan. We (the common people) do this all of the time - wearing earrings, eating cake (which is a celebration of the moon god), should we be called evil too for doing things that are related to Pagan traditions? Most Christians do Pagan traditions too, and aren't even aware of it. Maybe Freemasons are just using these symbols in a different way, like most people. Do you really think of the moon god when eating a vanilla cake?
The structure of these almost identical chapters mentioning the quantity of gold is worth noting. First, the Queen of Sheba visits Solomon and is impressed (1 Kings 10:1-13; 2 Chronicles 9:1-12). Then we are told of the 666 talents, and a description of the rest of his wealth and glory is given (1 Kings 10:14-22; 2 Chronicles 9:13-21). Then his greatness is reiterated, with emphasis on the revenues he collected (1 Kings 10:23-25; 2 Chronicles 9:22-24). Finally, we are told that Solomon collects horses and chariots (1 Kings 10:26-29; 2 Chronicles 9:25-28). In other words, he sins, by doing what a king in Israel is never supposed to do (Deuteronomy 17:16-17). At this point, 2 Chronicles 9 closes with Solomon’s death and the next chapter shows the kingdom ripped apart. In 1 King’s, however, the chapter ends with Solomon’s sins regarding horses and chariots. The next chapter shows him collecting foreign wives (also forbidden in Deuteronomy 17:17) and finally worshipping false gods. In short, both chapters show us God’s Anointed falling into outright apostasy. It is significant that the kingdom split because Rehoboam refused to lighten the load in taxes and forced labor which his father had put on the people (1 Kings 12:1ff; 2 Chronicles 10:1ff). Solomon’s latter reign was not a happy time. He had become a beast. And, in telling us of the height of his power and glory, both texts mentioned that Solomon brought in 666 talents of gold one year. Then he slid into sin. There is no reason to doubt that Revelation 13:18 is building on 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13. Simply the fact that the number is not used anywhere else in Scripture, guarantees that any Biblically literate first-century person reading or hearing John’s epistle from Patmos would immediately turn to those passages. Where else could he go?
Also, Mr. Freemason assure me that NO ONE who believes in ALLAH would ever get accepted in.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by MamaJ
Also, Mr. Freemason assure me that NO ONE who believes in ALLAH would ever get accepted in.
Sounds a little closed-minded to me. What if someone worships the Goddess?
Beyond the rainy cloud, the rose, and the pagan dream and remnants of the old pledge. The lovers are no more the lovers And the murderers are similarly transposed, O homeland, drowning in mystic symbols and in blood, Lost homeland! Teach us to exist in the age of lost things Teach us to unlock barred doors To fertilize a barren land Discover in you the cloud and the rose Illuminate the tired masses. Homeland of lost things, Teach us to conceive trees and children, When the promised sun and the promised wind Are concealed or revealed Teach us that the murderers are visible in you And the murdered invisible.
Originally posted by Doodle19815
Dear Mama, please don't let one Mason lead you for all of the Masons. Also, did he tell you he was a 14 degree Mason because that is quite strange.
It would be hard for someone who worships Allah to become a Mason because of the oaths and teachings coming from the Bible. They aren't particularly discriminating, but you surely wouldn't take an oath sworn on the Koran seriously, nor would you want to be taught from that book.
You know that I am not stirring up a fight here Mama, so please don't think that, but I think you need more than just one Mason's opinion.
Originally posted by MamaJ
He was telling me that any man can be approved/accepted as long as they believe in a higher power...
They LOVE Solomon.
Also, Mr. Freemason assure me that NO ONE who believes in ALLAH would ever get accepted in.
I am all for secret societies but they do teach their brothers another way of viewing the Bible...