Controversial 'naked' scanners scrapped at Manchester Airport over cancer scare

Controversial 'naked' scanners scrapped at Manchester Airport over cancer scare

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naked scanner to be taken of line in uk
unfortunately not in america

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i think this is great news not only for the risk of cancer but the invasion of privacy ,
when they have been taken out of all European airports because of the cancer risk the American tsa has to take there's out what's good for Europe is good for America .
you as American citizens will have a better legal argument for them taking out of your airports


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I agree this has a very good side in that it sets a precedent for the courts to look at. That technically shouldn't even matter but these days it seems international examples are good enough for American courts. May as well use it where it benefits the good guys then.

On the other hand, the American TSA won't just fold their arms and huff and puff. I'd fear it more likely that if forced to give up the naked body gizmos they'll get big mean grins, snap on the rubber glove and insure security in a more ...invasive... approach. I've honestly figured that's really a matter of time anyway. Taking their scanners might hurry it along.

So...Good and Bad.. All things considered, maybe the bad would just help upset people much faster and get something done about the whole mess. Even that has a silver lining. S/F!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


i think it would be a long battle with the tsa as they really don't want to give them up .
The risk is too high for cancer on that alone the courts should rule them to take them out ,as the scanners would kill more people than the terrorists

Have they only just realised there's a cancer risk?

Personaly I think they are a complete waste of time.

A terrorist carries one innocent substance onboard with him.
Another terrorist carries another quite innocent substance on board with him.
When they're on board they mix the two together and create their nasty device.

This all assumes there really are lots of REAL terrorists

reply to post by VoidHawk
There are lots of real terrorists, they work for our rulers.

as some one interested in optical physics,
i cant understand how this was ever considered safe,
they are colliding terahertz waves at the skins surface,

doesnt take a genius to realise this is a very bad idea for chomosones and dna,

electrical sensors can "smell" explosives in the "parts per billion" in the air,
and metal detectors can locate guns and ammo,

i personally choose not to get nuked with terahertz level waves at my dermus,
especially near my privates (where there are sperm)

giving up freedom is one thing,
but nuking yourself to stay safe??? wtf

i will never visit america
and many many people feel the same way

shame i love your country,
but my dna is more valuable non scrambled

xploder

They should at least have an option that if you want to fly naked you will not receive the death beams.

They've known about the cancer risk from the beginning and there were articles and threads on this.

Of course the point in this is ridiculous for overall this would kill far more than ever get hijacked.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
reply to post by VoidHawk

 

There are lots of real terrorists, they work for our rulers.

Agreed.

How much did they cost ?

2nd

The real pressure will have to come from the Airline Industry. The TSA was supposed to make citizens feel safe enough in lieu of 911 to keep people buying and flying. Now people do not want to fly because of TSA. TSA makes citizens feel victimized and terrorized so less people want to fly. I was scanned not once but twice in a row last December. I felt like i was being cooked well done.

This makes me very happy. I really hope for all you folks in the US that they get rid of them there as well.

there are now 2 possibilities. the next "underwear" bomber or the next "shoe" bomber, will come out of the uk, and they will find away to bring back the scanners. or a "terrorist", will attack somewhere outside of an airport, or other mass transit hub, justifying the the mass roll out of portable scanners, that are all ready being used, unknown to most people.

Originally posted by IsawWHATtheyDID
there are now 2 possibilities. the next "underwear" bomber or the next "shoe" bomber, will come out of the uk, and they will find away to bring back the scanners. or a "terrorist", will attack somewhere outside of an airport, or other mass transit hub, justifying the the mass roll out of portable scanners, that are all ready being used, unknown to most people.

Is there any kind of portable device that can detect if we're being scanned without our knowledge? would pee me off to find out I'm being scanned.

reply to post by VoidHawk

good question. im not sure, but i wonder if an emf meter would register. i do know that the department of homeland in-security has all ready rolled out these mobile scanners. from my understanding, they are just normal looking cargo vans that scan you with out you knowing.

Originally posted by VoidHawk
Is there any kind of portable device that can detect if we're being scanned without our knowledge? would pee me off to find out I'm being scanned.

You could get one of the EM field detectors like they use on Ghost Hunters, but at the airport you'd have to put it on the belt so they can scan it to make sure it doesn't contain explosives. and that process could damage it.

So yes there are detectors but I don't know how you could possibly use it at an airport?

I haven't figured out why more travelers didn't refuse the naked scanner. I've been hand patted down several times. When they ask if I want it in the open or private; I always say right out where everyone can see.

If more people refused the scanner; that in itself would have clogged the system. Think! Don't just follow the line.

reply to post by Lukku


if you refuse the naked scanner what are you options , is it you don't get to fly or they do a manual pat down

When I was scanned at the airport in December they did not makes us aware that there even was an option for pat down. I would have chosen the pat down if I had known. We were just corralled like cattle into the machines and were prodded along by rude and intimidating TSA workers.