UFO Sighting Over Lake St. Clair (9-15-12)

I thought this was a rather interesting as well as being a pretty funny video. This was entertaining to watch just from listening to the reaction of the people filming the ufos. They are red in color and they look to be flying in formation. And of course, for all we know it could be a fake, but I want to see what other people think about the video...
Excuse the strong language in the video...

Looks kinda interesting but watching it on a computer screen is no bueno.... Even if its real its kinda hard to be impressed if you dont see it in person

OP: "No they're NOT! They flyin in orderrrr!"
Background Person: "Holy s***!"
OP: "What the F--- are those things!? "
Background Person: "Those are UFO's!"
More swearing ***************
Another Background Person: "They are gettin out of order........."

hahahah

Definitely Chinese lanterns for these southerners! The commentary was priceless S&F

It's lasers configured from the ground plenty of feet away from the camera...or maybe not

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I have no idea what those are. But what I can gather from the video dey flyin in order and der low, der not even high as da stars. And whistling as loud as you can and yelling hey hey is probably the best way to try to communicate with UFOs. Sounds logical to me.

I don't know what they are but listening to the audio is hilarious. It sounds like some bad movie acting. When the guys says at the beginning, "dere flying in orderrrrr" I just start laughing. It must be real because I sure don't think this bunch could fake this. Listening to the audio I'd swear I hear helicopters but of course I'm sitting in a kitchen with hood fans running so that could just be the kitchen noise.

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Yet again, we have people freaking out over Chinese Lanterns.



Please, everyone, anyone, with respect, please, please, please stop posting "lights in the sky" videos, or simple orbs.

They're almost always lanterns or balloons, and/or LED balloons, stars, satellites, helicopters, conventional aircraft, or something similar.
Please consider these before posting.

In this case we have Chinese lanterns, floating on the wind, doing nothing extra ordinary than floating on the wind and flickering.


Thanks.

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also with respect, you didn't see them and you weren't there. there are those of us that have seen these things plenty of times and guess what, they're not always chinese lanterns. and until you're there with somebody you can't say otherwise.

i'm getting bored with the usual 'chinese lanterns' crew that haven't ever seen anything to challenge their usual 'plodding-along' beliefs. and those people who dismiss everything and act as if they know it all. you haven't seen it all, and you don't know it all.

I have no idea what they are.. But the people that filmed the video gave me a chuckle..Hey how about this its swamp gas peace,sugarcookie1

Did you see that one orb which flew fast like hell defying gravity??? No plane could do that, not even a bird. It changes its direction too fast!!!! Amazing footage!!!

edit: OMG I DEBUNKED MY SELFT LOL. It was a dust particle on my screen. Sorry!!

addendum; please please please do not stop posting 'lights in the sky' videos.
you don't know what they are for sure
i don't know what they are for sure
druscilla definitely doesn't know what they are for sure
and i was kind of under the impression that the purpose of this forum, and indeed this entire site
was to discuss this sort of thing and see if we can figure it out together.

yeah so this is more red dots without a great deal to distinguish them
but what are you gonna do? you start making rules about what manner of ufo video posted may contain
and next thing you know we have a wasteland instead of a forum.
i'll take the impressive with the less impressive, thanks, and wonder about the lot.

i look forward to the ironic day that it turns out actual chinese lanterns are really spacecraft. tiny ones.

ETA: it's a little hard to discern properly, what with the brevity of the clip and the jumping/focussing, but is it just me or does the 'lantern' on the left of that row in the nominal center of the formation move a lot more than the rest? if they were all just drifting with the breeze should they not all move approximately the same amount in the same direction?

Originally posted by ladyteeny
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also with respect, you didn't see them and you weren't there. there are those of us that have seen these things plenty of times and guess what, they're not always chinese lanterns. and until you're there with somebody you can't say otherwise.

i'm getting bored with the usual 'chinese lanterns' crew that haven't ever seen anything to challenge their usual 'plodding-along' beliefs. and those people who dismiss everything and act as if they know it all. you haven't seen it all, and you don't know it all.

Tell me, please, how many comets have you observed and when was the last one you saw?
How many space launches of satellites via rocket, or a space shuttle launch have you witnessed in person?
How many actual weather balloons have you witnessed in person and identified?
Have you ever seen Chinese Sky lanterns in person, and on how many occasions?
Do you know what mylar balloons are and what they look like on a sunny day floating in the sky?
How many LED balloons have you seen and witnessed floating in the sky?
How many Hot air balloons have you witnessed and/or rode in?
How many Blimps have you seen? Remote controlled hobbyist and full scale piloted?
What is the strangest man-made aircraft you have seen in flight?
How many planets, without checking online, or using a smart phone app can you identify in the night sky right now?
Do you know what phase the moon is in now?
How often have you tracked and witnessed the ISS, seen an iridium flare, or other satellites.
If you saw a bolide would you know what it was?
How about skydivers doing a night jump with meteor flares?
Have you ever seen a missile launch?
Are you familiar with Lenticular cloud formations?
What about other natural meteorological phenomenon like heat lightening, ball lighting, bead lightening, sheet lightening?
Have you ever gone sailing and witnessed St/ Elmo's Fire along the mast?

What exactly is your real world experience in seeing and witnessing all these things in person and knowingly identifying them for what they are such that you can discount my real world experience in seeing all these things in person and knowingly identify them for what they are?

Would you know the difference between Trigonometry and Calculus if the two were laid out side by side before you? If you've experience in neither, just as with the examples above regarding aerial phenomenon, what can you base your opinion on if all you have is "I don't know what it is"?

The above is all rhetorical. You don't have to answer as they are examples of what I have witnessed personally and identified for what they are.

As it is, it seems the more you actually know about what goes on in the sky, the less likely one is to see a UFO when experience and knowledge of and about all the above listed makes it fairly easy to know exactly what one is seeing, thus ruling out over-the-top shouting, carrying on, and making entirely way too much noise over something really quite mundane, known, and very identifiable.

If one wants to see these "lights in the sky" videos, they're all over youtube. Have at it, but, please, leave it on youtube and don't bring it to ATS as we've seen these "lights in the sky" videos all to often, and they are always identifiable.
Thus, my request, to everyone and all, please, no more "lights in the sky" videos.

Reserve the UFO forum for the exceptional and truly amazing. Otherwise, all in all, you're doing more to hurt and detract from interest in the UFO phenomenon by posting yet another generic, ho hum, ambiguous light in the sky with people freaking out over it video.

The video is clearly showing lanterns drifting across the sky as they do , no different to the many lantern videos on youtube .
Not all UFO videos are of lanterns , but videos of lanterns are videos of lanterns and to be honest they are quite easily discernible unless you choose to ignore the facts and put your belief over common sense .

As for Debunking .... sorry but the video Debunks itself
I find it interesting that it starts with the hysterical guy saying " No they're not " , I suspect in response to his more sensible friend saying " Dude ... they're lanterns"

agghh...it's like a bad rerun of reruns over here

reply to post by Druscilla


no point in wasting all that time typing out questions when you're also saying they're rhetorical. and a condescending attitude doesn't help anybody.

like with everybody that has actually seen something, we know what we saw.

Originally posted by ladyteeny
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no point in wasting all that time typing out questions when you're also saying they're rhetorical. and a condescending attitude doesn't help anybody.

like with everybody that has actually seen something, we know what we saw.

Ah, yes, like people with Schizotypy never just see things.
Just like multiple witness sightings claiming to have seen an Alien Mothership were'nt victims of their own Psycho-social susceptibility to sympathetic collusion in mistaking a Missile for a Mothership.

Just like you're totally immune to being manipulated or falling for tricks and slight of hand, your brain can't play tricks on you can it?


People are the absolute worst eye witnesses.

Unless you've actually had training and/or experience to familiarize yourself with what to look for and how to look for it, the likelihood that you "know" what you saw is pretty small where actually you're lying to yourself and not even knowing that you're lying to yourself.

The brain is pretty amazing like that.

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knowing a lot of things doesn't mean knowing everything, despite how much you'd like to convince people of that.

i've been trained in my fields, and again, i know what i've seen. and no amount of condescending attitude from you is going to change that. maybe you need to get out a little more and look upwards instead of sitting on the internet ridiculing things you think you know.

it might not be your fault, but your attitude is quite rude with regard a subject about which nobody can be certain. on record anyway.

Why not just point a laser pointer at them, if they fire back its real if not then keep looking

Originally posted by Druscilla
People are the absolute worst eye witnesses.

So who do you think are "better witnesses"? Dogs and cats?

I think that people may be the worst "eye witnesses", but they are also the best "eye witnesses" since we have no other witnesses who can (or will) communicate with us.

Note: I should add that the video looks exactly like Chinese fire lanterns to me, and the over-reaction of the guy recording is quite funny. Yes, those lanterns are "below the stars"!

Originally posted by ladyteeny
reply to post by Druscilla

 

also with respect, you didn't see them and you weren't there. there are those of us that have seen these things plenty of times and guess what, they're not always chinese lanterns. and until you're there with somebody you can't say otherwise.

i'm getting bored with the usual 'chinese lanterns' crew that haven't ever seen anything to challenge their usual 'plodding-along' beliefs. and those people who dismiss everything and act as if they know it all. you haven't seen it all, and you don't know it all.

It actually does look similar to lanterns, not much different than these.