Netanyahu Reaches Out to the American Public (Interview Clip)

Originally posted by lucid eyes
Netanyahu seems to be very, very delusional.

Fixed it for you

I look at Netanyahu and see a man who is scared, completely sober and aware of the stakes here, with no seeming way out at all. Even if he wanted a path out....and time wise, there are issues to be considered from his side.

If Obama wins.....U.S. forces could actually leave Israel to twist in the wind and stand entirely alone. Now, Obama would at least give tacit support or things like refueling if pushed....because to not do so would be to deliberately write off the entire Jewish American vote.

If he wins a second term, none of that matters anymore and I think Israel knows it may be in a worse position. If Romney wins, their position improves......but the stakes are their literal survival to the last woman and child who can't get floating escape into the Med, if the worse came about and they bet wrong on a 50/50 shot.


Now I'm not saying the above are entirely logical reasons or stand the ultimate test of logic and daylight outside the situation where being wrong is 7 million dead civilians. I'm just suggesting that seems to be how it looks from Israel's side and the Arabs don't seem to see many ways around this either......so I guess it's a question of time now.

Any time or a few weeks? I'm betting sooner now that inevitability seems to be here. Now time is against some major players and sooner is definitely more likely IMO.

When he whines about Iran being run by fanatics, to me it's pot calling kettle black.

reply to post by bigyin


You do know that gays, lesbians transexuals and every other 'fruit of the forest' are freely allowed to have parades throughout Israel, even in Jerusalem, the 'holy city'. Their government has Arab members of parliament who represent the arab/palestinian population, and are not shy in their vocal vitriolic hatred of Israel. But hey, Israel is a SECULAR DEMOCRACY. All people have a right to be represented by a voice and group.
Now lets see how free people are to be 'gay, out and proud' in Tehran without fear of instant hanging. I can be a Jew, a Moslem, a Christian, an Atheist in Israel. And I can chop and change my mind about that (except in Gaza,) because I have freedom of identity. The state does not dictate who I am. Now, try being a Christian in a country where you are considered Muslim by birth, and therefore apostate and deserving of death for choosing to believe Jesus over mohammed.
You have no idea what fanaticism is.

The same type of fanaticism that compels Israelis to build on Palestinian land because their religious books tells them God promised them that land only for the Jews?

reply to post by Drezden


Funny, I seem to remember the state of Israel actively removing a few thousand Jewish settlers from Gaza in 2005 in the name of peace. The Jews are no longer there, peace is never came, and your argument, much like a bucket with a hole in it, holds no water.

The attitude behind this article from Haaretz says a lot.

General Dempsey is 'complicit' in goading Israel to attack Iran

The excessively harsh language used by the top U.S. officer is both insulting and counterproductive. Obama should use his speech at Democratic Convention to change Israeli perceptions of isolation.

If I didn’t know any better I would assume that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey is trying to goad Israel into attacking Iran. Otherwise, why would he go to such great lengths to try and persuade them that Israel is on its own and can rely only on itself?

Because that is the net effect of Dempsey’s statements in London last week, especially his yet-to-be-properly-explained use of the word “complicit” as in "I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it.” Complicit? As in what – war crimes?

Even if one accepts the validity of Dempsey’s assertion that an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would “delay and not destroy” Iran’s nuclear program, and even if one understands the need for him to spell out the Administration’s belief that such an attack would “thwart” the “international coalition” – whatever that means – his use of the word “complicit” is somewhere on the scale between unfortunate and way out of line. And to make matters worse, despite the days that have passed, it has yet to be explained or retracted or apologized for, as the Wall Street Journal correctly pointed out in its Friday editorial.

If you read the whole article, you might feel nauseous. I did. It is disgusting.

Netanyahu and Obama have had NINE face to face meetings.

As cosmicegg mentioned, correctly...that's a lot of expense and unnecessary hullabaloo when there are more important DOMESTIC issues at hand.

I personally cannot imagine how tiresome one such affair must be for the President...and having to ONCE AGAIN find the verbal finesse to put him off again in politically courteous tones makes it even more tiresome, no doubt.

If Israel is 'on the brink of war' it is because they put themselves there. The aftermath of the bombing on the Osirak reactor in Iraq did seem to teach them some sort of lesson...and I wonder how many friends does Israel have besides the US? If the US were not their ally/protector/advocate/strong man...who would side with them, I wonder?

It also appears, from this other article, that Bibi and Obama had an 'agreement' to no longer air their dirty laundry, which now Bibi has reneged on.

President Barack Obama’s national security team had every reason to believe they’d be spared a Bibi eruption before Election Day.

Earlier this year, U.S. and Israeli officials had informally agreed to stop airing their well-documented disagreements over how to halt Iran’s nuclear program, according to two people familiar with the situation.

But on Tuesday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu broke the tacit détente. He accused the Obama administration, albeit not by name, of going squishy on Tehran by not creating concrete benchmarks — “red lines,” he called them — for a military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities.

The latest flare-up in the tempestuous Obama-Netanyahu relationship was overshadowed Wednesday by the carnage at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. But U.S. officials believe the intense debate over the allied response to Iran’s nuclear program — and the sharp personal, policy and political differences between the two leaders — rivals the perils posed by the excesses of the Arab Spring.

This article also says that Bibi knows that after the election, he will have no more leverage with the US if Obama is re-elected...and considering that his desperation is increasing...and that he and Mitt have been buddies for a while...obviously Bibi even knows who is probably going to win the election.

Obama is the one upon all this hinges...I do not see him waiting until after he is re-elected to start another war when he's wanting to stop wars, not start them. He is fighting against a Congress of war-mongers, or at least the party majority in the House is of that side...and have fought tooth and nail against ending the war in Afghanistan at all.

The people in Israel don't want a war...neither do the people in Iran...I don't think any of us REALLY want a war...especially anyone who has kids who might be drafted or who are already involved...I see three governments represented by 3 men, one a Jew, one a Muslim, and one a Christian....and only 1 out of those 3 is really adamant about needing to bring it to blows...if not for the other two exercising restraint, this planet would probably already be a smoking charred rock circling the sun with a sad and dejected wobble...

"I think the people that say those things, set a standard for new human stupidity" (Iran having nukes would stabilize the region)

Apparently he doesn't think much of Ron Paul.

Originally posted by Lucius Driftwood

When he whines about Iran being run by fanatics, to me it's pot calling kettle black.

reply to post by bigyin

 

You do know that gays, lesbians transexuals and every other 'fruit of the forest' are freely allowed to have parades throughout Israel, even in Jerusalem, the 'holy city'. Their government has Arab members of parliament who represent the arab/palestinian population, and are not shy in their vocal vitriolic hatred of Israel. But hey, Israel is a SECULAR DEMOCRACY. All people have a right to be represented by a voice and group.
Now lets see how free people are to be 'gay, out and proud' in Tehran without fear of instant hanging. I can be a Jew, a Moslem, a Christian, an Atheist in Israel. And I can chop and change my mind about that (except in Gaza,) because I have freedom of identity. The state does not dictate who I am. Now, try being a Christian in a country where you are considered Muslim by birth, and therefore apostate and deserving of death for choosing to believe Jesus over mohammed.
You have no idea what fanaticism is.

I have no idea what your blathering about. Try staying on topic.

Nobody is talking about sexuality or religion.

We are talking about a fanatical zionist, who along with his zionist madmen in the mossad and the idf do not tolerate anybody who does not tow their line.

They gleefully bomb and murder any political opponent they choose with impunity.

Many Israelis and Jews abhor his ranting and raving. They know they are being sucked into a mess by this whack job.

Jews once again are being played by zionists. I don't think it will work out well for them.

Nuttyyahoo is a gift to Iran.

Originally posted by Lucius Driftwood

The same type of fanaticism that compels Israelis to build on Palestinian land because their religious books tells them God promised them that land only for the Jews?

reply to post by Drezden

 

Funny, I seem to remember the state of Israel actively removing a few thousand Jewish settlers from Gaza in 2005 in the name of peace. The Jews are no longer there, peace is never came, and your argument, much like a bucket with a hole in it, holds no water.

Israel has removed some, and torn down some settlements, but the majority are still there, and more are being built constantly. There are hundreds of thousands on Israelis that have moved onto illegal settlements in the west bank and Gaza in the last decade. Yeah, moving a few thousands really helped the situation.. only not really.

Originally posted by Lucius Driftwood

The same type of fanaticism that compels Israelis to build on Palestinian land because their religious books tells them God promised them that land only for the Jews?

reply to post by Drezden

 

Funny, I seem to remember the state of Israel actively removing a few thousand Jewish settlers from Gaza in 2005 in the name of peace. The Jews are no longer there, peace is never came, and your argument, much like a bucket with a hole in it, holds no water.

Israel has removed some, and torn down some settlements, but the majority are still there, and more are being built constantly. There are hundreds of thousands of Israelis that have moved onto illegal settlements in the west bank and Gaza in the last decade. Yeah, moving a few thousands really helped the situation.. only not really.

reply to post by Tw0Sides


Do not be so sure about that! I would pay more attention to the occult forces that are Israel.

You are aware it is called IS RA EL? Are you not.

America is fake, it was and always has been a creation to serve a Agenda. That agenda has roots in lands you just might not have enough knowledge of my friend.

I think we are in very, very, dark times. Dire consequences for the "American Dream" in the future.

I for one stand by what Netanyahu says. It's good to have a non self biased opinion of what American media wants us to know.

Also I see a lot of netanyahu "Yahoo" jokes.

Just because I'm that type of person to do this, Netanyahi is more close to Not A Yahoo

reply to post by unknown1234


If one is to be angry with Iran for the taking of hostages some years ago it is necessary to ask the question "how many of those hostages died?"

In contrast how many died in the unprovoked attack on the USS Liberty?

Surely the American deaths attributable to Israel are more anger provoking than a few inconvenienced embassy workers?

Israel has no right whatsoever to complain about Irans (hypothetical) development of nuclear weapons until such time as it admits its own nuclear arsenal and agrees to IAEA inspection of Dimona. Let the pipsqueek in Tel Aviv bring about his own holocaust without the USA's help. Oh! And by the way, it's well past time to stop paying the Zionazis billions to carry on their campaign of aggression and hatred against anyone who is not "chosen" (that includes Americans just in case you forgot that part.....)

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by damoney

 

"Put a sock in it Nuttyyahoo. This guy is something else. After a person like this keeps others down through oppression and such it is no wonder he would be paranoid of being attacked. You can only behave like this for so long before it comes back and bites you on your backside."

Who has he kept down? The Palestinians who have NO CLAIM to their land and fire rockets into Israel every day? What does that have to do with his plea to stop Iranian nukes?

You're right, seabag. The Palestinian's didn't lay claim to their land, but neither did the Native Americans. But that's "not the same," is it? It's exactly the same. We took everything from the Natives, and in return, they get a few Casino's with minimal land. Yup, democracy at it's finest. But don't worry, "Love thy neighbor" doesn't apply to Israel...


Lima-1, out.

Originally posted by bigyin

Will the channel give the Iranian leader the same opportunity to speak. I doubt it.

Dear guests, today after the passage of nearly six decades, the main values of the Non-Aligned Movement remain alive and steady: values such as anti-colonialism, political, economic and cultural independence, non-alignment with any power blocs, and improving solidarity and cooperation among the member states. The realities of today’s world fall short of those values, but the collective will and comprehensive efforts to change the existing realities and achieve these values, though full of challenges, are promising and rewarding.

In the recent past, we have been witness to the failure of the policies of the Cold War era and the unilateralism that followed it. Having learnt lessons from this historical experience, the world is in transition towards a new international order and the Non-Aligned Movement can and should play a new role. This new order should be based on the participation of all nations and equal rights for all of them. And as members of this movement, our solidarity is an obvious necessity in the current era for establishing this new order.

Current global conditions provide the Non-Aligned Movement with an opportunity that might never arise again. Our view is that the control room of the world should not be managed by the dictatorial will of a few Western countries. It should be possible to establish and ensure a participatory system for managing international affairs, one that is global and democratic. This is what is needed by all the countries that have been directly or indirectly harmed as a result of the transgression of a few bullying and hegemonic countries.

The UN Security Council has an illogical, unjust and completely undemocratic structure and mechanism. This is a flagrant form of dictatorship, which is antiquated and obsolete and whose expiry date has passed.

It is through abusing this improper mechanism that America and its accomplices have managed to disguise their bullying as noble concepts and impose it on the world.

They protect the interests of the West in the name of “human rights”.
They interfere militarily in other countries in the name of “democracy”.
They target defenseless people in villages and cities with their bombs and weapons in the name of “combating terrorism”.

From their perspective, humanity is divided into first-, second- and third-class citizens

Human life is considered cheap in Asia, Africa and Latin America, and expensive in America and Western Europe.

The security of America and Europe is considered important, while the security of the rest of humanity is considered unimportant

Torture and assassination are permissible and completely ignored if they are carried out by America, the Zionists and their puppets. It does not trouble their conscience that they have secret prisons in various places on different continents, in which defenseless prisoners who have no legal representation and have not been tried in a court of law are treated in the most hideous and detestable way

Good and evil are defined in a completely one-sided and selective way.

They impose their interests on the nations of the world in the name of “international law”.

They impose their domineering and illegal demands in the name of “international community”.

Using their exclusive and organized media network, they disguise their lies as the truth, their falsehood as true, and their oppression as efforts to promote justice.

In contrast, they brand as lies every true statement that exposes their deceit and label every legitimate demand as roguish.

Honorable audience, international peace and security are among the critical issues of today’s world and the elimination of catastrophic weapons of mass destruction is an urgent necessity and a universal demand.

In today’s world, security is a shared need where there is no room for discrimination.

Those who stockpile their anti-human weapons in their arsenals do not have the right to declare themselves as standard-bearers of global security


It is most unfortunate to see that countries possessing the largest nuclear arsenals have no serious and genuine intention of removing these deadly weapons from their military doctrines and they still consider such weapons as an instrument that dispels threats and as an important standard that defines their political and international position. This conception needs to be completely rejected and condemned.

Nuclear weapons neither ensure security, nor do they consolidate political power, rather they are a threat to both security and political power. The events that took place in the 1990s showed that the possession of such weapons could not even safeguard a regime like the former Soviet Union.

He has spoken.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Well we all know the next world war will start over there.Just a matter of time I would be more worried about the other super powers that are over there if a attack happens.Russia is way up Irans butt over there and they dont like the United States anymore neither does China those two together are pretty big force to deal with.Iam not one thats for war but if theres gonna be one no sissy stuff like nukes I would reather have a shot out ang get shot then get nuked by some baby hiding under ground lol.