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Originally posted by IndieA
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by IndieA
I'm not familiar with what Iceland did to solve their financial crisis. Can you elaborate?
You should look into it.
Basically when Iceland bankers tried to get bailed out by the taxpayer for poor investments that the banks made, the taxpayers got to vote on it and voted 93% in favor of not bailing them out.
They then arrested or exile the people involved, in what was essentially a massive scam, to prevent this from happening again.
I think they then went on to write a new constitution.
An even shorter explanation is, they identified the problem, the central bankers, removed them from power, then took preventive measures to prevent this from happening again in the future.
Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to post by britelite1971
Let's all get full body tattooed in the color pink and accept sponge bob as our one true God.
I think that would solve a few issues....
Peace
(Sorry for not being serious with your thread, I mean well but it's Saturdaynight over here where I am and it's effects are starting to show. Will log off in a moment)
Originally posted by benrl
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by benrl
So, two questions for you. Why should innocent people have to die for someone else's actions? Yes, he has the right of free speech, but on the other hand he made the youtube video with the intent to inflame and knew what the consequences of his actions would be. How do you propose to deal with the rioting and unrest that has ensued because of the video?
Second question, how do you go about educating everyone? I think education is a good answer but how would you propose to do that?
First, your exactly right, Innocent people shouldn't have to die for someone else s actions, thats something that should be taught to those ignorant mobs rioting over a youtube video.
They should know better, someone should of taught them better.
Words are no reason to kill over, and its ignorant to do so, and yes I am purposefully misunderstanding your point.
As for the education, well thats to each countries prerogative, here in the US Id start by transfer that massive military budget, the one thats more than the rest of the worlds defense spending combined, and redistribute it among public schools.
That'd be a good start, you ever wonder why education is the first thing cut in budget short falls?
Its because Education would counter all the BS we see in the world today, its TPTB vested interest in keeping the populous dumb, makes for better cannon fodder for their needless wars.
Originally posted by IndieA
reply to post by HamrHeed
Are you trying to say the bankers caused their own downfall in Iceland? Do you honestly believe that they have absolute and total control?
Are you trying to tell me it's impossible to usurp the power?
I think not. Any team can beat any team on any day.
The people can reclaim power, if they want it.
To quote Jim Morrison, "they have the guns but we have the numbers".
Originally posted by IndieA
reply to post by HamrHeed
Are you trying to say the bankers caused their own downfall in Iceland? Do you honestly believe that they have absolute and total control?
Are you trying to tell me it's impossible to usurp the power?
I think not. Any team can beat any team on any day.
The people can reclaim power, if they want it.
To quote Jim Morrison, "they have the guns but we have the numbers".
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by benrl
So, two questions for you. Why should innocent people have to die for someone else's actions? Yes, he has the right of free speech, but on the other hand he made the youtube video with the intent to inflame and knew what the consequences of his actions would be. How do you propose to deal with the rioting and unrest that has ensued because of the video?
Ya know, it doesn't matter why the film maker created such a lousy movie. But if anything good comes out of this, it's that the violent protestors (over a stupid MOVIE) really showed the whole world their true colors. They are ignorant, immature, fanatical, and can't be dealt with rationally.
My answer is drop all of them back in the Middle East and let them kill each other off. If they truly believe that allah will give them each 40 virgins when they reach heaven for dying in a war, then let them get it done as quickly as possible so we can finally have a chance at peace on earth.edit on 9/15/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by grandmakdw
Create a day of jubilee for the entire world (forgiving ALL debt incurred two years prior to the date set for Jubilee)
Fire ALL politicians and political leaders in the entire world. Set mandatory lifetime limits of 6 years for each political job held, throughout the world. Set mandatory lifetime limits of bureaucratic personnel to 6 years in any one position. Institute mandatory jail terms for politicians, political leaders or bureaucrats who reap any outside financial gain directly related to their job, other than a salary and expenses while in office. While in office all above people would be required to pay in taxes 75% of all personal financial gain outside of their salary and expenses, and a 50% tax on spousal income and financial gain.
Obliterate all regulations, leaving in place only criminal and traffic laws, and regulations that have been voted on by a legislative body. Make ALL future regulations subject to review and a vote by the people in the area (local to national) directly affected by the regulation.edit on 15-9-2012 by grandmakdw because: Clarification: to make the sentence more understandable.
Originally posted by sio10580
I think we should do away with money completely. The whole system is silly anyway. Useless paper.... that is backed by a useless pile of shiny rocks. We truly are barely out of the jungle! The Earth should be a paradise and there is no reason why it isn't except for greed. If people worked and did their part in society so that we could all have everything it would be a perfect world.
My husband is in sales, he spends 85 percent of his time trying to beat his competition. What a waste of time! In a society without money there would be no competition. Everyone in that field would work together. Everyone would have a job and we would all have less work to do.
We would have two problems to work through in this type of society. Power hungry people and slackers. We have them now and we would have them then.
Originally posted by IndieA
Iceland demonstrated to the people of the world, how to usurp powers that be,in a peaceful legal manner.
It was vastly ignored by the media and I bet you can guess why.
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
So do you think that most of us will still be alive by the time that our world gets to the needing to be rebuilt part? If not, what do we need to be passing on to future generations that will help them to rebuild a world that is better than ours?
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
Originally posted by britelite1971
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
So do you think that most of us will still be alive by the time that our world gets to the needing to be rebuilt part? If not, what do we need to be passing on to future generations that will help them to rebuild a world that is better than ours?
i think many will not make it through such a collective devastating happening no. the most important thing to pass on to the survivors would be, never forget how a world ends up where people don't care about each other any longer. when most people live their lives in service to self, what you end up with is what we have now, when most people live their lives in service to others what you have is a society that can over come anything.