Muslim Innocence. Did someone do the maths ?

I did.


He are the countries where there is protests against the anti-Muslim movie :
With their population number

Morocco : 32,670,500
Algeria : 37,100,000
Tunisia : 10,673,800
Libya : 6,469,000
Egypt : 82,554,000
Sudan : 30,894,000
Nigeria : 166,629,000
Somalia : 9,797,000
Kenya : 38,610,097
Syria : 21,747,000
Lebanon : 4,292,000
Turkey : 74,724,269
Jordan : 6,346,900
Kuwait : 3,582,054
Iran : 75,149,669
Bahrain : 1,234,571
Qatar: 1,699,435
Pakistan : 180,673,000
India: 1,210,193,422
Malaysia: 29,482,000
Indonesia : 237,641,326
Myanmar : 48,724,000

Total : 2 billion .

So the total population of the countries where these protests are taking place is 2 000 000 000 people.

Now you would think that if there was riots and embassies burning in your country ,that you would like to know what is going on.REGARDLESS OF YOUR RELIGION. And that if it was all caused by a movie, that people might want to see what the said movie was.

Now to encompass for the children, old people and more importantly people that do not have internet access in these countries lets bring that number down by 50%. Never mind, to make sure i wont get criticize on that, i will bring it down by 75%.

We are now left with a population of 500 000 000 people with the means to watch a video that is causing an uprising of violence in their country.



Now, Here is an article about a analytic company that has identified 320 clips of the anti-Muslim video online and puts the worldwide views at 10 000 000. www.forbes.com...


10 000 000 views. How many of these Views are from America, Asia, Europe, Australia ? I can't say. But i think it is safe to say at least 25% of these views are.



So we are left with 7 500 000 views for the countries concerned.

Out of the 500 000 000 people with the means to watch that video that is causing protests in their countries. We end up with only 7 500 000 million views?

And i was very very generous on the amount of views i accorded to the rest of the world. I think 90% of the views are from America and Europe Alone. That would leave us with 1 million views out of the 2 billion people concerned.


Anyways, i think we can say that this movie is a total non factor in what is currently happening.

Later.

No it's not.

Similar thing happened with the drawings of Muhammad as a dog a few years back, and I doubt many of the protesters had seen the pictures. To only hear that a country "allows" it, is enough.

Word of Mouth=Burn an Embassy down.

Did you do the math for that?




My personal belief is that its just extremists spreading the same hate they perpetrate in. You know, eye for an eye crap. Evil America, etc...........

Oh, I forgot,

The only math that matters in all this is the number of Muslims.
If only a fraction are fanatics, it's not difficult to scoop up a few hundreds to storm an embassy.
Maybe not all of them are even that fanatic, but they're there protesting, they're young and they want to be in it, and things get out of hand, as usually is the case in riots.

These "uprisings" have ALWAYS taken place in the ME. These are the extremist that now have a "worldwide stage" with social media, and the accessibility of the internet and camera phones, to spread their views of hatred for the US and Israel. Now I am not denying that there is a degree of propaganda here, but it is business as usual in the ME.

Originally posted by Consequence
Oh, I forgot,

The only math that matters in all this is the number of Muslims.
If only a fraction are fanatics, it's not difficult to scoop up a few hundreds to storm an embassy.
Maybe not all of them are even that fanatic, but they're there protesting, they're young and they want to be in it, and things get out of hand, as usually is the case in riots.

You are wrong. Even if you are a christian, Jew or Buddhist living in these countries you would like to know what the fuss is all about and watch that movie if it really was the cause to all of this.

You are right when saying it only takes a few hundreds to storm an embassy. This is why i have been saying for a couple days now that this was all planned by a group with cells in each of these countries coordinating it all to start on sept 11th and it is not a sudden outrage caused by the movie.

reply to post by sonnny1


For every extremist, there is someone out their fuelling them, funding them, or funnelling something into their misguided means so they can see a better end for themselves. (The string pullers)

When the IRA disbanded they said they didn't want to be seen as the same people that were responsible for 9/11...





If you are eager to kill someone for your misplaced beliefs, than you are certainly a pawn. Unfortunately, devout/fundamental religious beliefs leaves you quite open to be manipulated.

Muslims have always been an easy target.

Redo your math not all of those countries are 100% Muslim. How did the op determine which countries are Muslim?

Originally posted by buster2010
Redo your math not all of those countries are 100% Muslim. How did the op determine which countries are Muslim?

As nothing to do with being muslim or not. As to do with the ammount of views. Like i said above, regardless of your religion you would watch the movie that causes muslims in your country to go all crazy on embassies. The movie is a non factor.

Originally posted by alphaskunk

Originally posted by buster2010
Redo your math not all of those countries are 100% Muslim. How did the op determine which countries are Muslim?

As nothing to do with being muslim or not. As to do with the ammount of views. Like i said above, regardless of your religion you would watch the movie that causes muslims in your country to go all crazy on embassies. The movie is a non factor.

A U.S.-based film that is critical of Islam and the Prophet Mohammad has incited violence and turmoil throughout the Muslim world.so they go nuts & kill...

All i can thank is soooo what.
This is America ,you dont have to watch it if your afended.

I hope they keep there violence over there because it wont be pretty..
A lot of Dear hunters are stocking up on ammo & getting real tired of all the war games..

Terrorism is organized violence and vandalism.
Absolutely bounded by law.
Lawlessness is the law of terrorism.
Prodigies and genius are assets to the world.
Few of them are liability.
Better known as exceptions.
These exceptions head terrorism.
Juvenile delinquents, abandoned kids, exploited and abused,
Orphans, illegitimates, victims of utter poverty
Are the protégé.
Most join out of choice.
Few are forced to, result of frustration and despair.
Rest, just for the heck of it, oblivious to the non-existence of exit.
Best professional guidance and training is provided.
International faculty contributes.
Success rate is one hundred percent.
Graduated are numero uno desperados, killers, extortionists,
Hardcore criminals

Prophet Mohammad means nothing to me thats my freedom of choice.. & i have the right to bare arms if some Islam group wants to throw rocks..
GOD BLESS AMERICA

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As I posted on another topic,
A day by the protests at the American Embassy in Cairo

At this very moment, Americans are piling into movie theaters, cheering through their popcorn at the notion of the Islamic prophet as a goat-romancing child molester, and sending “The Innocence of Muslims” to the top of the box office charts. It’s an evil that must be stopped at all costs, or at least, “before the film is released in European cinemas,” urges Ahmed Ibrahim as, behind him, three of his colleagues collect rocks off the rubble-strewn street and dump them onto an improvised sling — a tattered and stained Egyptian flag.

www.egyptindependent.com...

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by sonnny1

 

For every extremist, there is someone out their fuelling them, funding them, or funnelling something into their misguided means so they can see a better end for themselves. (The string pullers)

When the IRA disbanded they said they didn't want to be seen as the same people that were responsible for 9/11...

If you are eager to kill someone for your misplaced beliefs, than you are certainly a pawn. Unfortunately, devout/fundamental religious beliefs leaves you quite open to be manipulated.

Muslims have always been an easy target.

edit on 15-9-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)

Agree 100%

My only problem, is that many of these Nations that have these type of believers, have leaders that have succumb to the very views, you described. They ARE the string pullers, and allow these violent outbursts to continue. Its easier to get elected, if the hardcore extreme, is something you are pandering to, and will get you the votes.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by sonnny1

 

For every extremist, there is someone out their fuelling them, funding them, or funnelling something into their misguided means so they can see a better end for themselves. (The string pullers)

When the IRA disbanded they said they didn't want to be seen as the same people that were responsible for 9/11...

If you are eager to kill someone for your misplaced beliefs, than you are certainly a pawn. Unfortunately, devout/fundamental religious beliefs leaves you quite open to be manipulated.

Muslims have always been an easy target.

edit on 15-9-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)

Agree 100%

My only problem, is that many of these Nations that have these type of believers, have leaders that have succumb to the very views, you described. They ARE the string pullers, and allow these violent outbursts to continue. Its easier to get elected, if the hardcore extreme, is something you are pandering to, and will get you the votes.

True. Africa is the biggest f-in chewed, dry boot on the planet that has had trillions of dollars thrown it's way/ Obviously the aid never reached it's intended target.
And of course, people stop donating because they know they're getting scammed

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by sonnny1

 

For every extremist, there is someone out their fuelling them, funding them, or funnelling something into their misguided means so they can see a better end for themselves. (The string pullers)

When the IRA disbanded they said they didn't want to be seen as the same people that were responsible for 9/11...

If you are eager to kill someone for your misplaced beliefs, than you are certainly a pawn. Unfortunately, devout/fundamental religious beliefs leaves you quite open to be manipulated.

Muslims have always been an easy target.

edit on 15-9-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)

Agree 100%

My only problem, is that many of these Nations that have these type of believers, have leaders that have succumb to the very views, you described. They ARE the string pullers, and allow these violent outbursts to continue. Its easier to get elected, if the hardcore extreme, is something you are pandering to, and will get you the votes.

True. Africa is the biggest f-in chewed, dry boot on the planet that has had trillions of dollars thrown it's way/ Obviously the aid never reached it's intended target.
And of course, people stop donating because they know they're getting scammed

Originally posted by alphaskunk
You are wrong. Even if you are a christian, Jew or Buddhist living in these countries you would like to know what the fuss is all about and watch that movie if it really was the cause to all of this.

So are you now saying that your math is wrong, because clearly no where near everyone has watched the video in those countries, even if you claim that they really would like to see it to know what the fuss is all about?

So....you are wrong?

For general stats, the last number I saw on Muslims world wide was around 1.2-1.3 Billion. Regardless of nation. So the number is very considerable as a people and a culture, but not 1/3rd of world population either.....

You make an interesting point except that you may not be considering how often or widely tidbits of this video may be showing on TV programs, news snippets or other forms copied, edited and distributed across that region for the express purpose (by now) of pissing off more people and keeping them that way. I'd guess whatever conventional methods usually work for viewer count or impact of something are blown all to hell on this one.

I won't argue a bit that the whole purpose of making such a global case about this stupid and cheap little flick was artificial and very deliberate as what almost seems like a universal 'go' signal as the events pick up and move in more places. Not good.... The video would seem to be a major factor now though, even if it is just a tool being used at this point and not something worthy of any rage like this by itself.

Originally posted by Consequence

Originally posted by alphaskunk
You are wrong. Even if you are a christian, Jew or Buddhist living in these countries you would like to know what the fuss is all about and watch that movie if it really was the cause to all of this.

So are you now saying that your math is wrong, because clearly no where near everyone has watched the video in those countries, even if you claim that they really would like to see it to know what the fuss is all about?

So....you are wrong?

Sorry if you do not understand my point by now, i must rest my case.

So... am i wrong? I guess so. whatever you say.

I think that this is being orchestrated.
But your math is still wrong.
A) There were different media that spoke about this ,ehm, "movie". Throw in fundamentalistic newspapers, TV channels and radio and the numbers grow.
B) There are people who will go and protest against things that they did not see,just because their leader told them to.
Can happen in any place/group/sector where ideology or religion rule all aspects of life.

Originally posted by alphaskunk
Sorry if you do not understand my point by now, i must rest my case.

So... am i wrong? I guess so. whatever you say.

Brilliant argument!