Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'

reply to post by WhatTheory

What sort of lame logic are you using. Just because other officials are there means obama does not? He should be the one there regardless if anyone else shows up. You have it all backwards.

So the meeting are extremely important and they must be attended all of the time?

I am confused, Clinton allegedly canceled his meetings because he thought them redundant, yet i still hear many people, in conservative Oklahoma, talk about how they wish he was back.

So, what, are they super important, kinda important, or maybe kinda relevant sometimes?

reply to post by WhatTheory


He's not clueless. The attack further's their agenda. It's something they can point to to help build credibility for invading middle eastern countries.

reply to post by WhatTheory


He's not clueless. The attack further's their agenda. It's something they can point to to help build credibility for invading middle eastern countries.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I dont mean anything personal, its just that your threads since 2008 clearly show that even if Obama cured cancer you'd still probably bag the man out.

If obama cures cancer, I will give him credit.
Again, it's not my fault obama has so much baggage.

So, anyone who supports Obama has no common sense right?

Not everyone, some might just be ignorant of certain circumstances, some might just be stupid and some might vote for him solely on the color of his skin.

So the common sense people are with Romney?

I guess you don't get it. I would vote for a pet rock instead of obama. Romney could be a pet rock and I would vote for it over obama.

Can I ask you something,

I don't know, can you?

Do you actually believe Obama is the one who makes the decisions

Already answered this in one of your previous posts. Don't feel like repeating myself again.

You did not answer the question of who do you think makes the decisions?

reply to post by WhatTheory


Killed Osama, Ended the war in Iraq, Removed the libyan dictatorship with no military deaths. We are 1 year away from leaving afganistan. Killed many top level Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders. I can keep going if you dont consider any of that a sucess.

reply to post by WhatTheory


What baggage does Obama have?

So, your saying that the people who follow Obama are

1. Ignorant
2. Stupid
3. Racist

Im being serious here, these are genuinley the only reasons you believe someone supports Obama?

You would vote for a pet rock?.. well ok then, im glad. Because i have my own opinions of people who would vote in a pet rock over a human being. But this is completely theoretical so, i digress.

Sorry you dont feel like repeating yourself, but i dont remember asking you this before, so if you dont mind...

.. do YOU honestly believe its Obama making the decisions?

Me? No, I dont think any president has actually been the commander in chief for a few decades, the decisions? I believe are made by a select few in certain area's. Joint chiefs, bankers, ceo's.. something like that.

Which is why i believe those who are putting the blame at the feet of the president are really missing the mark..
There is so much more to this than what the MSN propoganda is telling you, but you seem to believe all of it and use it in your ammunition against Obama.. its quite comical at times.

Do me a favour, grow up a bit and dont quote every single worthless sentance with a smart-a55 response, i am trying to keep this debate mature.


edit to add,
why is it everytime you go offline your post gets a star?.. then you return.
I find you highly suspicous!

reply to post by sonnny1


Hey Sonny! How is it hangin?

Anyway, the text you linked seems to be a criticism on how Obama handled the War on Terror and doesn't really tell me how it affects his competency as president or how the incident at the embassy would have been avoided if he had attended to the PDB daily.

It seems to imply that Obama did not attend to the PDB, or was briefed at all, within the 48 hours before the incident.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
So, your saying that the people who follow Obama are

1. Ignorant
2. Stupid
3. Racist

Im being serious here, these are genuinley the only reasons you believe someone supports Obama?

What other reasons could there be for someone to support obama?

Sorry you dont feel like repeating yourself, but i dont remember asking you this before, so if you dont mind...

See this post

Do me a favour, grow up a bit and dont quote every single worthless sentance with a smart-a55 response, i am trying to keep this debate mature.

Really? By stating I have a hard on for the president is being mature?
I'll continue my own way thank you.

why is it everytime you go offline your post gets a star?.. then you return.
I find you highly suspicous!

I did not realize you were keeping such close tabs on me.
Typical, you cannot make a valid point in favor of obama so you fall back on trying to accuse me of what? Unless you have proof, you should not make accusations trying to imply that I am being disingenuous or something. Way to keep it mature dude! BTW, I could care less what you think.

reply to post by WhatTheory


Just an observation mate, thats all.

By the way you actually didnt answer the question.....

C'mon have some courage here..

'' Do you honestly believe its Obama who makes the decisions? ''

You are quite happy to say he's the worst thing since slice bread because of the decisions he's making, so you must truely believe he's the one who makes the decisions, correct?

Originally posted by theconspirator
Killed Osama

You do realize that obama was against the policies which allowed the military to actually find osama right?
If it was not for water torture, obama would never have had the opportunity to get osama. Would the killing of osama be a foreign policy?

Ended the war in Iraq, Removed the libyan dictatorship with no military deaths. We are 1 year away from leaving afganistan.

That area of the world is going to crap so if that is a success then wow!
yeah, iraq is going down the drain because he pulled the troops out to early. He did not listen to his commanders. Obama knew better. The same thing is happening in A-stan. Obama has no idea what he is doing.

reply to post by TsukiLunar


All is good brother!!



Actually the question was raised.

If he is informed, WHY was it a surprise?

Question: why were the events of the past 24/48 hours such a surprise to this Administration? You ask, “How do you know this was a surprise?” and I answer with this: “If ‘surprise’ was not a part of the equation, if he was, in fact fully informed and aware, why did he not move our diplomats out of harm’s way?

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
By the way you actually didnt answer the question.....

Yes, I did. Did you read the last section of the post I linked to?
I answered it. What more do you want? Geesh!

reply to post by WhatTheory

Really? Then who do you think makes the decisions?
Obama got pretty much everything he wanted from obamacare to the bailouts to the government takeover of some industries. He also likes to do an end around Congress by abusing executive orders and using his minions in certain agencies like the EPA.

Is this the sentance where you give a yes or no answer? sorry i must be dumber than obama /sic!

Its a simple yes or no question, you have the balls to openly criticise the man from your computer,so have some courage to backup your statements.

Whattheory, do you honestly believe that its Obama who makes the decisions?

I do not, I do not believe Obama makes the decisions. I dont know who does, but personally I believe he doesnt have the final say on ANYTHING.

Would you like the question in another language?
Perhaps reworded?

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by TsukiLunar

 

All is good brother!!

Actually the question was raised.

If he is informed, WHY was it a surprise?

Question: why were the events of the past 24/48 hours such a surprise to this Administration? You ask, “How do you know this was a surprise?” and I answer with this: “If ‘surprise’ was not a part of the equation, if he was, in fact fully informed and aware, why did he not move our diplomats out of harm’s way?

If he knew, it wasn't a surprise. I am simply not convinced the US State Department knew, much less Obama.

That said, Tom Baker is growing on me. I accept him as a great Doctor.

Originally posted by theconspirator
reply to post by WhatTheory

 

Killed Osama, Ended the war in Iraq, Removed the libyan dictatorship with no military deaths. We are 1 year away from leaving afganistan. Killed many top level Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders. I can keep going if you dont consider any of that a sucess.

edit on 14-9-2012 by theconspirator because: (no reason given)

Well, since you want to give him atta boys be sure he gets credit for releasing Qais al Qazali from custody.

Iranian-backed Shia terror leader freed by US threatens to attack
www.longwarjournal.org...
It's all about that stupid movie.

Despite the roles played by Qais and his brother Laith in killing US troops and working with Iran's Qods Force, the US military released the two brothers and hundreds of their followers to the Iraqi government between July and December of 2009.

then the U.S. spun the story:

The US military officially denied that the release of Qais and Laith was part of a hostage exchange, and instead insisted it was part of "reconciliation." But US military and intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal privately said that the brothers had indeed been freed as part of a hostage exchange.

Yes, we know he takes credit for Biden Laden and won't even keep his promise to have a beer with the Seals team.
As for removing the Libyan dictator with no deaths, that changed on 9/11/12 when we got out payback. One year away from leaving Afghanistan mean zilch until it happens. Sure, give him the credit for taking out the some Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders, just like Bush deserved it for finding Saddam Hussein.

You really don't need to go on. MSM will handle that job.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Is this the sentance where you give a yes or no answer? sorry i must be dumber than obama

Only you know if you are dumber than Obama but you clearly must have some comprehension issues if you don't understand what I wrote.

you have the balls to openly criticise the man from your computer,so have some courage to backup your statements.

Funny, you think I only talk this way about obama on the computer. I talk openly about how I feel about obama in the 'real world' also.

Whattheory, do you honestly believe that its Obama who makes the decisions?
Would you like the question in another language?
Perhaps reworded?

Since you seem to have reading comprehension issues, I will give you a simple 'yes' for an answer since a couple sentences is to hard for you to understand.

I do not, I do not believe Obama makes the decisions. I dont know who does, but personally I believe he doesnt have the final say on ANYTHING.

okay, is this suppose to be profound or something?

Ok cool,

So, you believe that its Obama who actually makes the decisions at the top?
He's the one who decides to defend/attack/what to say on the podium, what policy etc etc etc?
Obama is the supreme leader of the American political system and no one else has power over him..
yeah?

cool, just wanted to know if i should take you seriously or not!
nothing profound.. thanks mate.. ill leave you be now!

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
So, you believe that its Obama who actually makes the decisions at the top?

When a situation arises, I'm sure he gets plenty of options and then decides which road to take. Unfortunately, it's usually the wrong one.

He's the one who decides to defend/attack/what to say on the podium, what policy etc etc etc?

I'll bet he does not write his own speeches to read at the podium because he is just not that smart.

Obama is the supreme leader of the American political system and no one else has power over him..
yeah?

Umm...no.
As much as obama would like to be a dictator, I'm sure the judicial and legislative branches would think otherwise. Unfortunately Obama is trying to circumvent this by executive orders and using his minions in various agencies like the EPA.

reply to post by WhatTheory


Woah hang on a tick
So Obama isnt the decision maker?

reply to post by TheLonewolf


This may be a little late, a thousand apologies, but I have to disagree with your "rag from England" comment. The sad fact is, that here in the US, our news has become so muddled with political bias and misinformation that foreign sources are almost our only source for true views on current world events.