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Is the internet getting a little too personal?
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hey guys Ive been a long time reader of ATS but havent really gotten into posting anything yet. thought now was better than later so here it goes:
I've been noticing some recent internet activity that is a little concerning. for example Youtube asked me today if i wanted to use my "full name" on my profile. Why the hell would anyone want to disclose any personal info over the net? especially in light of the recent "innocence of muslims" video which was apparently uploaded by someone with a "false name" (shocker i know right). Even things like the Cloud and social networks are crossing boundaries of personal info. even things like how cookies allow sites to display ads relating to your interests. i dont really know what to make of all this but wanted to hear what you all had to say.
I've been noticing some recent internet activity that is a little concerning. for example Youtube asked me today if i wanted to use my "full name" on my profile. Why the hell would anyone want to disclose any personal info over the net? especially in light of the recent "innocence of muslims" video which was apparently uploaded by someone with a "false name" (shocker i know right). Even things like the Cloud and social networks are crossing boundaries of personal info. even things like how cookies allow sites to display ads relating to your interests. i dont really know what to make of all this but wanted to hear what you all had to say.
reply to post by tzdub
Loughner used his full name on his youtube account. Why wouldnt he?
I agree. Im sick of gmail asking for my phone number and stuff like that.
And we live in a world where the media can write terrible things about you before you have been proven guilty of anything. The Washington Post and The New York Times could tear you up for example. Its easy to take a guy out of context. Its easy to make a guy seem guilty if that is your agenda.
They dont even need solid proof to slander your name it seems. Maye we shouldnt worry about personal info. If the government wants to mess wih you there isnt much that can be done about it.
They may as well give us all an internet password thats linked to ip and be done with it.
Loughner used his full name on his youtube account. Why wouldnt he?
I agree. Im sick of gmail asking for my phone number and stuff like that.
And we live in a world where the media can write terrible things about you before you have been proven guilty of anything. The Washington Post and The New York Times could tear you up for example. Its easy to take a guy out of context. Its easy to make a guy seem guilty if that is your agenda.
They dont even need solid proof to slander your name it seems. Maye we shouldnt worry about personal info. If the government wants to mess wih you there isnt much that can be done about it.
They may as well give us all an internet password thats linked to ip and be done with it.
reply to post by tzdub
There are ways to somewhat protect your browsing privacy, like some add-ons for browsers will block tracking cookies and notify you if a website is trying to track you. Anonymity on the net is beginning to slowly disappear, which I think is a terrible thing, but for the time being you can provide fake names and create corresponding email addresses if you wish to keep your personal information off the net. I actually suggest having a few separate email accounts for different purposes; i.e. keep one for personal emails, another for more or less public communication, and another for signing up for services/websites.
There are ways to somewhat protect your browsing privacy, like some add-ons for browsers will block tracking cookies and notify you if a website is trying to track you. Anonymity on the net is beginning to slowly disappear, which I think is a terrible thing, but for the time being you can provide fake names and create corresponding email addresses if you wish to keep your personal information off the net. I actually suggest having a few separate email accounts for different purposes; i.e. keep one for personal emails, another for more or less public communication, and another for signing up for services/websites.
reply to post by tzdub
they want this information because information = money, money = power. thats the whole point. why do you think facebook is worth soo much money?
they knwo who you talk to, who you see, where you go, who you go with, where you log on regularly, they know your email addresses, they know your phone numbers. its all about cash,
the idea has been floating around of killing internet anonymity. when you log onto the internet, you connect using your real name, i guess the idea is to make users accountable.
you should read up on SOPA, ACTA, Bill c-11, c-35, etc etc etc, its all about protecting copywrited material and the loss of internet privacy.
but heres the kicker, no ones gives a damn, and the kids today think this is normal place, they have no problems with it being raised on facebook. eventually the internet will not be a place of dreams and wonder, it will be a living, breathing surveillance and advertising portal.
they want this information because information = money, money = power. thats the whole point. why do you think facebook is worth soo much money?
they knwo who you talk to, who you see, where you go, who you go with, where you log on regularly, they know your email addresses, they know your phone numbers. its all about cash,
the idea has been floating around of killing internet anonymity. when you log onto the internet, you connect using your real name, i guess the idea is to make users accountable.
you should read up on SOPA, ACTA, Bill c-11, c-35, etc etc etc, its all about protecting copywrited material and the loss of internet privacy.
but heres the kicker, no ones gives a damn, and the kids today think this is normal place, they have no problems with it being raised on facebook. eventually the internet will not be a place of dreams and wonder, it will be a living, breathing surveillance and advertising portal.
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12-9-2012 by gostr because: (no reason given)
As I've said before, social networking sites and just the internet in general, provide a snap-shot into modern day society on a global scale. Privacy
is typically a personal preference. The internet can basically allow a person to do whatever he or she pleases. If you don't want your name on
YouTube, it doesn't have to be there. I see what you're saying. But in most cases it's completely up to you what you decide to share with others.
reply to post by freemarketsocialist
I am also getting an absurd amount of 'verify your phone number to make your email account safer' notices from my gmail.. It's actually every time I log in and I have to click around it.. In my mind I keep wondering, how will disclosing my phone number to you make me safer? Umm.. No thanks!
I am also getting an absurd amount of 'verify your phone number to make your email account safer' notices from my gmail.. It's actually every time I log in and I have to click around it.. In my mind I keep wondering, how will disclosing my phone number to you make me safer? Umm.. No thanks!
reply to post by tzdub
I think the less information about ones self that is given on the internet; the better. There is just too many things that could and probably would go wrong.
I have never joined any social network....nor do I bank or pay my bills online. I just don't trust any of it.
I like the old fashioned ways...telephone calls where I get to hear the other person's voice...and letter writing; you can save letters; the person's hand written words mean so much more; than a text or an email.
I think the less information about ones self that is given on the internet; the better. There is just too many things that could and probably would go wrong.
I have never joined any social network....nor do I bank or pay my bills online. I just don't trust any of it.
I like the old fashioned ways...telephone calls where I get to hear the other person's voice...and letter writing; you can save letters; the person's hand written words mean so much more; than a text or an email.
Originally posted by gostr
reply to post by tzdub
they want this information because information = money, money = power. thats the whole point. why do you think facebook is worth soo much money?
they knwo who you talk to, who you see, where you go, who you go with, where you log on regularly, they know your email addresses, they know your phone numbers. its all about cash,
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but heres the kicker, no ones gives a damn, and the kids today think this is normal place, they have no problems with it being raised on facebook. eventually the internet will not be a place of dreams and wonder, it will be a living, breathing surveillance and advertising portal.edit on 12-9-2012 by gostr because: (no reason given)
Very true and well said! Like an ATS member said recently with how much of a fad it is to share everything personal online, 'the younger generation won't oppose Big Brother, they will demand it!'
reply to post by gostr
well put my friend, its a little concerning how numb society has become to posting their lives online for the world to see. ive thought about deleting my facebook cause i hardly ever use it. plus as horrible as this sounds i could care less about majority of my "friends" on FB. i dont even remember who they are half the time haha.
and i realize that this is a stretch but i was thinking about the Amish lifestyle the other day. when you consider the level of stress and incessant internet swirl we face today, it make sense that some ppl would see technology as an evil force. like i said a stretch, but just a thought.
well put my friend, its a little concerning how numb society has become to posting their lives online for the world to see. ive thought about deleting my facebook cause i hardly ever use it. plus as horrible as this sounds i could care less about majority of my "friends" on FB. i dont even remember who they are half the time haha.
and i realize that this is a stretch but i was thinking about the Amish lifestyle the other day. when you consider the level of stress and incessant internet swirl we face today, it make sense that some ppl would see technology as an evil force. like i said a stretch, but just a thought.
i remember when i first got on the internet back in 1997 all the forums and chat sites had warnings warning you not to display any personal
information, now every site wants you to post your real name, address, etc etc.
My facebook got disabled about 4 years ago because they found out that i didn`t use my real info when i joined. Good riddance to em there`s no way that i am going to put my personal info on facebook or any other site on the web.
My facebook got disabled about 4 years ago because they found out that i didn`t use my real info when i joined. Good riddance to em there`s no way that i am going to put my personal info on facebook or any other site on the web.
A day is coming in the very near future when you will need to enter your Social Security number or something similar to even access the internet. I
can guarantee you of this. It's all part of plan for the control grid here on prison planet.
Sounds like Alex Jones huh? Well he isn't sensationalizing everything he talks about, because it's happening before our very eyes, and you'd need to be more than blind not to see it coming.
Sounds like Alex Jones huh? Well he isn't sensationalizing everything he talks about, because it's happening before our very eyes, and you'd need to be more than blind not to see it coming.
edit on 12-9-2012 by Nucleardoom because: (no reason given)
reply to post by tzdub
Is it still possible to delete your Facebook? Past a certain date recently didn't it change to where you can only temporarily deactivate it? Where if you ever try and sign on again everything is still there and is never really deleted? I think they use the words 'permanently archived?' I could be wrong though, correct me if so!
Is it still possible to delete your Facebook? Past a certain date recently didn't it change to where you can only temporarily deactivate it? Where if you ever try and sign on again everything is still there and is never really deleted? I think they use the words 'permanently archived?' I could be wrong though, correct me if so!
Originally posted by Nucleardoom
A day is coming in the very near future when you will need to enter your Social Security number or something similar to even access the internet. I can guarantee you of this. It's all part of plan for the control grid here on prison planet.
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Really dude?I feel sorry for you if you really believe that'll happen.It seems to me you have it in your mind that government controls everything(you're so wrong,it's sad). And even if it does..no one is going to force you to enter ANY info on the internet. Least of all your SSN. I realize this is ATS..but come on people use your damn brains
As for the OP,yeah it can get that way at times. But YOU have the CHOICE to enter that information.Don't go blaming anyone else if you choose to do so.
edit on 13-9-2012 by nightstalker78 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Nucleardoom
hell yeah, and whats scary is that everyones aware of but continues to log on. It's just what our society is built on nowadays so its near impossible to live what would be considered a normal life without the internet or any type of technology.
hell yeah, and whats scary is that everyones aware of but continues to log on. It's just what our society is built on nowadays so its near impossible to live what would be considered a normal life without the internet or any type of technology.
reply to post by Katharos62191
yeah but if you contact them you can ask that they permanently delete it so that if you ever wanted to make a new one you wouldnt be able to retrieve any past info. i wouldn't be surprised if they saved it tho.
yeah but if you contact them you can ask that they permanently delete it so that if you ever wanted to make a new one you wouldnt be able to retrieve any past info. i wouldn't be surprised if they saved it tho.
reply to post by nightstalker78
A day is coming in the very near future when you will need to enter your Social Security number or something similar to even access the internet. I can guarantee you of this. It's all part of plan for the control grid here on prison planet.
You really can't be that naive can you? In case your unaware of it they can trace the "pipe" you enter the internet with, it's called an IP address, so the next logical step is to "personalize" the traffic through that pipe by assigning you a specific number in which to personally identify you as an individual.
In case you don't know the hardware you use to access a network and the internet already has this in place and that is called a MAC address.
A Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to network interfaces for communications on the physical network segment. MAC addresses are used for numerous network technologies and most IEEE 802 network technologies, including Ethernet. Logically, MAC addresses are used in the Media Access Control protocol sub-layer of the OSI reference model.
MAC addresses are most often assigned by the manufacturer of a network interface card (NIC) and are stored in its hardware, the card's read-only memory, or some other firmware mechanism. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number and may be referred to as the burned-in address. It may also be known as an Ethernet hardware address (EHA), hardware address or physical address. A network node may have multiple NICs and will then have one unique MAC address per NIC.
So the only thing left for them to do is to assign you a specific number or identifier so they know who is using the equipment, it's not a far fetched idea considering the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) they are trying to push through since SOPA was shot down.
If they do make you use your social security number or something similar to access the internet, I didn't say it would be on display for everyone on the net to see but it WOULD be a way to pin down your IP address usage specifically to YOU making your usage very "personalized" so to speak.
You need to do some research before you comment, so you don't look clueless and ignorant.
Start your research here...
Carnivore
Echelon
and maybe you'll star to realize how much they DO control.
Class dismissed.
A day is coming in the very near future when you will need to enter your Social Security number or something similar to even access the internet. I can guarantee you of this. It's all part of plan for the control grid here on prison planet.
Really dude?I feel sorry for you if you really believe that'll happen.It seems to me you have it in your mind that government controls everything(you're so wrong,it's sad). And even if it does..no one is going to force you to enter ANY info on the internet. Least of all your SSN. I realize this is ATS..but come on people use your damn brains
You really can't be that naive can you? In case your unaware of it they can trace the "pipe" you enter the internet with, it's called an IP address, so the next logical step is to "personalize" the traffic through that pipe by assigning you a specific number in which to personally identify you as an individual.
In case you don't know the hardware you use to access a network and the internet already has this in place and that is called a MAC address.
A Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to network interfaces for communications on the physical network segment. MAC addresses are used for numerous network technologies and most IEEE 802 network technologies, including Ethernet. Logically, MAC addresses are used in the Media Access Control protocol sub-layer of the OSI reference model.
MAC addresses are most often assigned by the manufacturer of a network interface card (NIC) and are stored in its hardware, the card's read-only memory, or some other firmware mechanism. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number and may be referred to as the burned-in address. It may also be known as an Ethernet hardware address (EHA), hardware address or physical address. A network node may have multiple NICs and will then have one unique MAC address per NIC.
So the only thing left for them to do is to assign you a specific number or identifier so they know who is using the equipment, it's not a far fetched idea considering the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) they are trying to push through since SOPA was shot down.
If they do make you use your social security number or something similar to access the internet, I didn't say it would be on display for everyone on the net to see but it WOULD be a way to pin down your IP address usage specifically to YOU making your usage very "personalized" so to speak.
You need to do some research before you comment, so you don't look clueless and ignorant.
Start your research here...
Carnivore
Echelon
and maybe you'll star to realize how much they DO control.
Class dismissed.
edit on 13-9-2012 by Nucleardoom because: (no reason given)
The information age is the next step in human societal evolution. In the future a computer the size of a blood cell will be more powerful than any
super computer of today. Nanotechnology will produce biological machines that will be "grown" inside of our bodies. Information will pass freely
between the digital world and the "real" world through implants in our brains. Neurologists can already hook your brain up to a series of electrodes
and "see" what you are thinking by reading neural pulses. Why should anybody be afraid to let others know what thoughts go on inside your head, hmm?
Just as I am reading this thread, this box popped up… from AVG
Your computer is safe, now let us secure your phone.
Excuse me????
What does AVG has to do with my phone?
Can anyone explain this one to me please ?
Your computer is safe, now let us secure your phone.
Excuse me????
What does AVG has to do with my phone?
Can anyone explain this one to me please ?
Originally posted by tzdub
hey guys Ive been a long time reader of ATS but havent really gotten into posting anything yet. thought now was better than later so here it goes:
I've been noticing some recent internet activity that is a little concerning. for example Youtube asked me today if i wanted to use my "full name" on my profile. Why the hell would anyone want to disclose any personal info over the net? especially in light of the recent "innocence of muslims" video which was apparently uploaded by someone with a "false name" (shocker i know right). Even things like the Cloud and social networks are crossing boundaries of personal info. even things like how cookies allow sites to display ads relating to your interests. i dont really know what to make of all this but wanted to hear what you all had to say.
Why would anyone want to disclose any personal info over the net?
People love doing that even though they dont. Facebook is a prime example. I have had numerous people tell me when I ask them why they share their real full names, and they say this, "because the prompt asked for my real name".
They did not even think before they did it, they just did it. They did not think of the years and years of telling their children about not giving out their names, etc. A programming that overrides the previous programming, and is far worse.
They do not care, or realize, that for "real names", they can still create pseudonyms.
I wish this was not true, but I would say 1 out of 5 People that I have asked in respects to facebook, said this.
Soon, youtube, google, etc, will not let you have service with them, without a 'true' name, and a phone number to verify it.
The ONLY reason all of this is going forward, is because People dont think, and have proven it, by accepting every other invasion of their privacy, while waiving the motto around "if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to hide", as their mental midget mentality, and shortsightedness.
Little do they know, but they have helped tremendously in building the base structure of the future technology that will imprison them all into an omnipresent matrix grid, that will keep tabs on their every action, and document it. This information will be used throughout a subjects life to further adjust their reeducation to fit the coming tyrannical World where Humans have been reduced to carbon credits, as Human Resources for the elite Oligarchy.
Or that is their plan.
Of course the plan to stop them is pretty simple. Stop using their crap.
Do we really need any of it to live a happy life?
If the answer is yes, then one is not living life, but living a artificial construct called "society", that was created and is still managed and perpetuated by Men.
Look at where it has brought us.
The brink of many things, but mostly destruction of the species, and many others along with it.
(Ben Stein Voice)
WOW.
reply to post by tzdub
Tell anything you want, but they know who you are. And you will be found, if neccessary.
Why not, that is correct.
Something as wall newspappers...
Many things earlier not known are now in public, that can be problem only for autocrats... Those who never answers, and those who are doing anything they want, against the laws, in many cases...
'Rules of game', what 'rules of game', they mean laws, I guess so?
Tell anything you want, but they know who you are. And you will be found, if neccessary.
Why not, that is correct.
Something as wall newspappers...
Many things earlier not known are now in public, that can be problem only for autocrats... Those who never answers, and those who are doing anything they want, against the laws, in many cases...
'Rules of game', what 'rules of game', they mean laws, I guess so?
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