Russia warns U.S. to stay out of Irans nuclear affairs...Do we sit down and shut up? Or enter WW3...

Does Russia know something the United States doesn't? Should we sit down and shut up? Or stand tall and call their bluff?

I can't believe the way our govt. has evolved. I'm surprised Obama hasn't apologized yet. But I know when a real American hears that Russia is warning the U.S. there's only one choice... This could quickly evolve into World War 3.
What could Russia possibly do to us if we call their bluff? Would China join forces with Russia in an attempt to overwhelm America and bring her to her knees? I say we get this party started and show these throwbacks what America is all about.

I think any world war scenario already speaks for itself; current military and economic partnerships indicate who would be on who's side.

With Iran would be Syria, obviously, and Hezbollah. Possibly even Egypt and Turkey. If the big players got involved, it would be Russia first, and somehow, God forbid, China (a major recipient of Iranian oil).

India - whether they like it or not - can only be friendly with the west as long as Pakistan continues to exist as a threat to their existence...having nukes and what-not.

Then on the West you have US and the little yet powerful - reminiscent of David - Israel; European Union countries, UK, France, Germany - are for sure lock ins; then you have Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Poland as auxiliaries, but I find that they are less 'with it'. Of Course, Canada seems to be very supportive of Israel, since it recently broke ties with Iran a few days ago, closing it's embassy and declaring all Iranian diplomats persona non grata. Even warning it's 120,000 Iranian-Canadian citizens not to travel there, lest they not be allowed to return.

South America, Brazil, Columbia and Argentina in particular, are lock-ins. Venezula, Bolivia and Ecuador, less so. But latin America, if history holds true, seems to be indolent when it comes to international conflicts,

Lets hope the situation never devolves into a full blown WWIII. Iran needs and must be opposed. Russia, is a dick who will probably get involved to protect their interests in Iran, and so will probably get involved sooner or later. Aye.. On second thought, Iran is far too important for Russia/China to not be protected by them

In anycase, Iran is lead by Islamist fanatics who once they get through Israel - and the VERY MUCH DO mean it when they say they want to wipe Israel off the map, or help other countries eliminate the Zionist regime - every weak now they issue some newly worded threat to Israels existence (and so those shmucks who complain about the 'wiped off the map quote' you are not up to date; Iran has picked up the rhetoric; ban ki moon even criticized Iran's leaders for continuing to threaten the Israeli state; these threats are not to be taken as idle - thus, Irans nuclear program is a threat to the free world) they will go after the 'big satan' America, chief progenitor of the evil western culture Islamists can't tolerate.

America needs to STFU, withdraw its military and warmongering from around the globe and fix its economy…… end of story.

America is NOT the world police, nor should they pretend that they are.

Mickierocksman

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What could Russia do to us if we call their bluff?Hmmm...Lets see...Oh,I know.Thermonuclear first Strike? While I actually agree with your sentiment.That is a war we could not win.Granted,Russia is no Soviet Union,but they still have nukes.

The truth is that World war 2 was started and funded by the Allies. Prescott Bush was charged for trading with the enemy with his Union Bank. How George Bush's Grandfather helped Hitler's Rise to Power

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

Poland was used to get Germany into condlict. Germany takes over most of Europe decimating most cities and infrastructures. Allies join the war after Japan (flase flag)a attacks Pearl Harbour. Allies start beating the Nazis but not until 25 million Chinese and 25 million estimated Russian civilians and army were murdered or killed. The U.S nukes japanese civilians not once but twice. Germany loses war, U.s sets up league of nation or the United Nations, world banks lend all the countries destroyed by the war thus owning them virtually. Hitler couldnt of dreamed of having that much control.

All this to create a country called ISRAEL that some speculate was created to be destroyed, used as a pawn to ignite World war 3

So as you can see you are all being played on a global level.

The U.S allies are using Syria conflict to drag Iran in conflict with Israel and U.s . Russian and China will defend Iran. This will ignite the global war we all have been waiting for. In biblical proportions.

Originally posted by mardukiscoming
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What could Russia do to us if we call their bluff?Hmmm...Lets see...Oh,I know.Thermonuclear first Strike? While I actually agree with your sentiment.That is a war we could not win.Granted,Russia is no Soviet Union,but they still have nukes.

en.wikipedia.org...
The five nuclear-weapon states under the NPT
United States 2,150 / 8,000[2]
Russia 1,800 / 10,000
United Kingdom 160 / 225
France 290 / 300
China n.a. / 240

Non-NPT nuclear powers
India n.a. / 80–100
Pakistan n.a. / 90–110
North Korea n.a. /

Originally posted by dontreally
I think any world war scenario already speaks for itself; current military and economic partnerships indicate who would be on who's side.

With Iran would be Syria, obviously, and Hezbollah. Possibly even Egypt and Turkey. If the big players got involved, it would be Russia first, and somehow, God forbid, China (a major recipient of Iranian oil).

India - whether they like it or not - can only be friendly with the west as long as Pakistan continues to exist as a threat to their existence...having nukes and what-not.

Then on the West you have US and the little yet powerful - reminiscent of David - Israel; European Union countries, UK, France, Germany - are for sure lock ins; then you have Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Poland as auxiliaries, but I find that they are less 'with it'. Of Course, Canada seems to be very supportive of Israel, since it recently broke ties with Iran a few days ago, closing it's embassy and declaring all Iranian diplomats persona non grata. Even warning it's 120,000 Iranian-Canadian citizens not to travel there, lest they not be allowed to return.

South America, Brazil, Columbia and Argentina in particular, are lock-ins. Venezula, Bolivia and Ecuador, less so. But latin America, if history holds true, seems to be indolent when it comes to international conflicts,

Lets hope the situation never devolves into a full blown WWIII. Iran needs and must be opposed. Russia, is a dick who will probably get involved to protect their interests in Iran, and so will probably get involved sooner or later. Aye.. On second thought, Iran is far too important for Russia/China to not be protected by them

In anycase, Iran is lead by Islamist fanatics who once they get through Israel - and the VERY MUCH DO mean it when they say they want to wipe Israel off the map, or help other countries eliminate the Zionist regime - every weak now they issue some newly worded threat to Israels existence (and so those shmucks who complain about the 'wiped off the map quote' you are not up to date; Iran has picked up the rhetoric; ban ki moon even criticized Iran's leaders for continuing to threaten the Israeli state; these threats are not to be taken as idle - thus, Irans nuclear program is a threat to the free world) they will go after the 'big satan' America, chief progenitor of the evil western culture Islamists can't tolerate.

Iran
Syria
Lebanon
Russia
China
Pakistan
India
North Korea
Iraq
Venezuela

US
Israel
UK
France
Australia
Japan
Saudi Arabia
The UN


I'm not sure where Germany fits in. I pray that no one has to live through a war with the above. There will be many casualties. The US and allies may have the technology, but the other side has the numbers. This will only not matter in case of a nuclear war....then we all lose.

What is going on in Iran is none of Americas business. If Israel ever grows the nades to attack Iran then let them just don't let them cry for America to come and save their worthless butts. Because if there is a nation that deserves to be bombed back to the stone age it's the terrorist nation of Israel. Something America should have done after their cowardly attack on the Liberty.

Originally posted by superman2012


Iran
Syria
Lebanon
Russia
China
Pakistan
India
North Korea
Iraq
Venezuela

US
Israel
UK
France
Australia
Japan
Saudi Arabia
The UN


I'm not sure where Germany fits in. I pray that no one has to live through a war with the above. There will be many casualties. The US and allies may have the technology, but the other side has the numbers. This will only not matter in case of a nuclear war....then we all lose.

That is for sure. Maybe it is what the world needs. Its not really that great anymore.

I can help but hink of the biblical passage stating that 2/3 of mankind will perish in the final battle of Megiddo or Armageddon which happens to be in the the valley of Megiddo Israel. Then I think of the Georgia Guide stones

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

en.wikipedia.org...

Something is coming. I think we all feel it.

Originally posted by Uneedhlp247

What could Russia possibly do to us if we call their bluff? Would China join forces with Russia in an attempt to overwhelm America and bring her to her knees? I say we get this party started and show these throwbacks what America is all about.

edit on 10-9-2012 by Uneedhlp247 because: Change wording

You think a nuclear holocaust and bio/chem spreading throughout the atmosphere "would be a party"???

and you call them throwbacks....

I vote we mind our own business. There's a heavy price that comes with owning nukes. That price is that every other nation that has nukes will be aiming them at your ass just incase you decide to fire yours at them. People think having nukes will insure their survival but all it really does is insure that when TSHTF, your ultimate destruction will be unavoidable and irrevocable.

Most Americans do not want another war, or any war in general. The ones that are pro war are the same people that believe every damn thing MSM throws at them. I think no matter who is president for the next 4 years, there will be a war with Iran - which will likely escalate to a full blown world war. Romney isn't even in office and he's already throwing shots at bombing Iran. Obama seems to be mixed on the idea, sometimes threatening the whole "all options on the table" and other times telling Iran not to attack our bases if Israel attacks.

I think its a huge corrupt mess, and either way the American people are going to pay for our governments sick, twisted money games.

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I think its a huge corrupt mess, and either way the American people are going to pay for our governments sick, twisted money games.

Isn't that the truth? I wonder how many wars there would be if the leaders of the nations that wanted war, were forced to the front lines on foot?

Originally posted by buster2010
What is going on in Iran is none of Americas business. If Israel ever grows the nades to attack Iran then let them just don't let them cry for America to come and save their worthless butts. Because if there is a nation that deserves to be bombed back to the stone age it's the terrorist nation of Israel. Something America should have done after their cowardly attack on the Liberty.

Are you serious? If we allowed a terrorist country such as Iran build nukelear arms they would use them for all the wrong reasons.. Imagine the terrorist activity by individuals that place no value on life and have nuclear weapons...We have no choice but to step in and put a stop to it. Russia telling us to back down or else sounds like fighten words. Americans take a lot of pride in their country and no one will take it away. As for Russia. It's about time we step up to their threats and push back....

Originally posted by Uneedhlp247

Originally posted by buster2010
What is going on in Iran is none of Americas business. If Israel ever grows the nades to attack Iran then let them just don't let them cry for America to come and save their worthless butts. Because if there is a nation that deserves to be bombed back to the stone age it's the terrorist nation of Israel. Something America should have done after their cowardly attack on the Liberty.

Are you serious? If we allowed a terrorist country such as Iran build nukelear arms they would use them for all the wrong reasons.. Imagine the terrorist activity by individuals that place no value on life and have nuclear weapons...We have no choice but to step in and put a stop to it. Russia telling us to back down or else sounds like fighten words. Americans take a lot of pride in their country and no one will take it away. As for Russia. It's about time we step up to their threats and push back....

edit on 11-9-2012 by Uneedhlp247 because: Misspelled word

I'm sorry, you have proof that they are building nuclear weapons? Or just MSM propaganda that you regurgitate? Your government blamed Al-Quada for 9/11. Guess who they are funding/providing arms to in Syria? You won't do anything about Russia, you can't afford another war. China owns you. You're worried about terrorists? Stay out of their country and stop creating them.

Originally posted by Uneedhlp247
Does Russia know something the United States doesn't? Should we sit down and shut up? Or stand tall and call their bluff?

I can't believe the way our govt. has evolved. I'm surprised Obama hasn't apologized yet. But I know when a real American hears that Russia is warning the U.S. there's only one choice... This could quickly evolve into World War 3.
What could Russia possibly do to us if we call their bluff? Would China join forces with Russia in an attempt to overwhelm America and bring her to her knees? I say we get this party started and show these throwbacks what America is all about.

edit on 10-9-2012 by Uneedhlp247 because: Change wording

No matter what you read on here,neither country is a threat. There isn't a country in the world that could take down America,no matter how many users here might say other wise.It just won't happen dude.Russia has been blowing smoke since the cold war and they'll continue to do so.

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Always loan money to someone you can collect it back from. Not to someone who can bomb your Three Gorges dam and kill 300 million of your population with one blow....



I know. China can nuke the US. so can Russia. They must be able to defeat the US in war, right?


Whats wrong with you idiots? US has nukes too....so does Israel. And France. And England. 3 of our biggest allies....all with nukes. China and Russia wish they had allies as deep as US is with France, England, and Israel. Fact is, our military is badder, and our friends our more loyal and have our backs.



As long as we dont march on Beijing or Moscow, China and Russia aren't doing a damned thing about the situation....They said same crap about Iraq, and we dismantles Iraqs army in weeks. Your all naive to think they can hang with us....pulleeeeeze.


The United States Military machine is the real deal...respect it or prepare to have your country blown to bits...End of Story.

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"As long as we dont march on Beijing or Moscow, China and Russia aren't doing a damned thing about the situation....They said same crap about Iraq, and we dismantles Iraqs army in weeks. Your all naive to think they can hang with us....pulleeeeeze.


The United States Military machine is the real deal...respect it or prepare to have your country blown to bits...End of Story"

They like to spew bull#. China and Russia both and so does Iran.I think it's hilarious that posters here accuse the US of it but fail to see when other countries do it..Whether anyone here likes it or not, the US is the most powerful country in the world. # with us and you're going to go down.

This thread speaks volumes concerning the reasons I wish I wasnt American in 2012.

This is why I'm glad I live in Canada, but it won't really matter if everyone nuked each other. We're all going to be doomed. Why can't they all understand that?