Aurora theater shooting court documents blows inside job conspiracy wide open

reply to post by Crakeur


Let's be realistic my man . The DC Madam case is one of that is a prime example of making people go away. I agree with you, a couple of things don't fit. If they feel his father is a threat to "what they do" he or his son (John Holmes) would have been rubbed out. Just like you suggested. Everyone walks away, everyone's happy.

He was drugged during court, so they don't want him speaking. Case is sealed and then this pops up? No, no.. something else is going on here, something we're missing. It's the reason why the case was sealed. IF(i use if because everyone gets their day in court, this is the USofA) John was guilty.. he would have been trail right now. You hear that? It's the gavel droppin that hammer. How long did it for Sarduski to go to free man to life in prison? The court system is swift with ish like that.

But no, this case was sealed.. swiftly. Somebody found out something or somebody knows something and more than what we know. It's why they sealed the case. Hm, there is a power struggle going on here behind the scenes. Yea a power struggle. Until this, even the nutcases avoided touchin this. No mention or sound bites in the news, no questions why the judge is sealing a "open and shut case", no reason why they recovered two gas masks..

Da powah!

We do not know for sure who in fact killed JKF.

So it is not out of reach to believe that something might indeed be afoot here.

Having said that, it is possible that this lady is a nut job, and Holmes is really the murderer.

But...How the hell could I know, in fact how the hell could anyone know?

In time one could hope that the facts become more transparent

Originally posted by cenpuppie
reply to post by Crakeur

 

Let's be realistic my man

. The DC Madam case is one of that is a prime example of making people go away. I agree with you, a couple of things don't fit. If they feel his father is a threat to "what they do" he or his son (John Holmes) would have been rubbed out. Just like you suggested. Everyone walks away, everyone's happy.

He was drugged during court, so they don't want him speaking. Case is sealed and then this pops up? No, no.. something else is going on here, something we're missing. It's the reason why the case was sealed. IF(i use if because everyone gets their day in court, this is the USofA) John was guilty.. he would have been trail right now. You hear that? It's the gavel droppin that hammer. How long did it for Sarduski to go to free man to life in prison? The court system is swift with ish like that.

But no, this case was sealed.. swiftly. Somebody found out something or somebody knows something and more than what we know. It's why they sealed the case. Hm, there is a power struggle going on here behind the scenes. Yea a power struggle. Until this, even the nutcases avoided touchin this. No mention or sound bites in the news, no questions why the judge is sealing a "open and shut case", no reason why they recovered two gas masks..

Da powah!

Don't forget the Jennifer Gallagher, the nurse who "drown in the middle of the night alone.

She treated people at the theater and was there when President Obama came to the hospital to comfort families and thank the staff July 22.

Did she mention someone told her something or did she see something that night.
www.cbsnews.com...

I also notice this article says she "drowned while swimming with friends' The original articles said she went swimming alone in the night and was found under a pier the next day.

reply to post by Char-Lee


More on Jennifer Gallagher...

From her Irish homeland

Greg explained that the family had travelled to nearby Ohio for a holiday when Jenny tragically drowned. He and Jack had gone to sleep when Jenny and her friend decided to take a boat out on to a lake. "She wasn't a very strong swimmer and I suppose she just wasn't able to stay afloat. "The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny."

Really happened in Iowa though?

Dickinson County Sheriffs office report

ETA: She went missing that night but it wasn't reported til the morning...? WTH?

What an incredible pile of nonsense, and how very insulting to the victims and their families. Let me see if I've got this, the Sheriff wants to shoot this person, after the fact, to create ANOTHER victim in a mass murder case? Plus, he wants to use someone with a spotty background to make his case?
She should be arrested for filing a false report.

reply to post by Trublbrwing


But she hasn't, what's that tell you?

reply to post by Trublbrwing


You see this is the thing, it appears that it is not a flase report. It appears to be genuine.

So I am struggling to see the problem here.

She is either a loony seeking fame.... or....

She really was shot by the poilce and asked to give false evidence.

thems the facts here, nothing more nothing less

I believe the gun wounds would lead credence to this story.

Either way the whole James Holmes situation is suspect in general.

Well, the fact is - there most is certainly someone... or perhaps more than one person that is filing for motions to intervene (MIT) in this case.I have my theories/speculations as to why someone would go to lengths and do this, but more on that in a bit.

Personal disclaimer: For the sake of brevity and facts
I'd rather not try to quote or transcribe these instead these are direct screen grabs from the sources listed. The only modification that I have done is to highlight points of reference in photoshop.That said, let's get down to the motions themselves.

The first two MIT's to be found are these:
(all shown in order of appearance in the register of actions)
Source= Register of Actions 7-20-12 through 8-13-12




The first above name does not ring a bell in this case, and I can't find any connection to the Aurora shooting anywhere.The second one, well... I'm pretty sure I know who that is, and I also feel that is directly connected to those motions. I've already been warned by a mod in a thread here on ATS when I called him out, so I'll keep my composure for the time being.

3rd and 4th MIT:
Source= Register of Actions 8-17-2012 to 8-23-2012


I'm pretty sure that anyone following this case will immediately recognize those names, but for those that don't... I'll break it down.
Allison Michelle Ernst was "the lady in the red dress" who had an emotional outburst during one of the hearings. It has been said that Allison might not be all as she appears. Link

Yeom Pyo Lee is a different ballgame entirely. Early on he was a "person of interest" when he apparently - made a call or texted something about "release james holmes or there will be more violence." Something to that effect. The official story states that he was questioned and released without being charged, as it was determined that phonecall or message did not originate from his phone.


Then, we have this:
Link

5th MIT:

Which is the one referenced in the OP IIRC.

So, there it is. Yes, it's alot of info to digest.... and you might ask, do I think there is a conspiracy here? Well, based on the evidence, I would say that it's highly probable that the conditions exist. Whether or not any of the motions to intervene say so, it's my opinion as of right now they all have one source and are most likely not factually based.

Whether those motions are disinfo, deliberate red herrings or just a lone nut having some fun is yet to be determined.
T-

reply to post by telemetry


You should read the whole thread before posting.

My post from page 3 of this thread

You have the wrong motions. This motion is by a female and has been redacted. Westlaw has been consulted by myself and another and only the redacted copy is there too.

ETA: I think what your looking for is this -> Look at 9/6/12

That being said it could totally be "the woman in the red dress" aka Allison Michelle Ernst.

reply to post by thesungod


So this accusation has been completely withdrawn? All the hubbub was for nothing? No conspiring police chief, no illuminati schemes, no innocent James Holmes, nothing?

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Nope. There is a conspiracy.

Read the whole thread and it all comes together and takes a couple interesting turns.

Originally posted by Crakeur
Why?


Let's pretend, for a minute, that the illuminati and their centuries long plan for domination, hatched in an era so incredibly different from this one that it would be impossible for them to have even created a plan that would incorporate the change in nations, boundaries, technology etc.

Who was at a midnight showing of a batman movie, surrounded by people dressed like batman and other characters from the batman ouvre, that would have put this ancient plot at risk?


Given the concept of a plan, hatched during the 1700's that relies on generation after generation of willing participants, I'm thinking either someone is seeking attention, should seek psychiatric help or, possibly, someone is filing ridiculous motions in an effort to paint one broad stroke of lunacy over anyone questioning the story.

think no plane/hologram silliness for the batman massacre crowd.

in a phrase..

gun control ..

reply to post by thesungod


You just said that the motion filed, as linked in your OP, was withdrawn. Completely redacted.

Doesn't that mean it's false?

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Redacted means that words have been blacked out. In this instance the name of the person that filed the motion. On all pieces of available info the name is blacked out, try clicking the links I posted, they're all safe.

Scout's honor and all that, mostly pdf's.

ETA: Now the judge threw the motion out be without cause or citation, which isn't normal in the legal world.

reply to post by Komodo


Please read the WHOLE thread before posting. All this has already been addressed.

reply to post by Crakeur

I know the government has a tendancy to do the dumbest things, to spend far more money than necessary and take the longest possible route to get somewhere but these kinds of instances can't be that hard to manage but, if you are right, then the gov't is opting for a life long drugging over a quick, cheap and easy suicide.

It's really a lot more simple than that now. I highly doubt it would be much of an issue [if this conspiracy theory holds water].

Today's psychosurgical techniques are much more refined. Instead of going in "blind" to remove large sections on the frontal lobe, as in these early operations, neurosurgeons use a computer-based process called stereotactic magnetic resonance imaging to guide a small electrode to the limbic system (brain structures involved in autonomic or automatic body functions and some emotion and behavior). There an electrical current burns in a small lesion [usually 0.5 in (1.3 cm) in size]. In a bilateral cingulotomy, the cingulate gyrus, a small section of brain that connects the limbic region of the brain with the frontal lobes, is targeted. Another surgical technique uses a non-invasive tool known as a gamma knife to focus beams of radiation at the brain. A lesion forms at the spot where the beams converge in the brain.

Link

reply to post by Crakeur


Your take on what the "Illuminati" means is interesting. I don't think I've ever heard that angle before..

As far as I can tell, of course they're not following some script written 200 years ago word for word, where do you get this idea?

The "Illuminati" (if that phrase is even relevant or accurate anymore) is more likely to act the same as any faction of human society would.. evolving with the times, internal disagreements and struggles for power within the group.

Originally posted by Komodo

Originally posted by Crakeur
Why?


Let's pretend, for a minute, that the illuminati and their centuries long plan for domination, hatched in an era so incredibly different from this one that it would be impossible for them to have even created a plan that would incorporate the change in nations, boundaries, technology etc.

Who was at a midnight showing of a batman movie, surrounded by people dressed like batman and other characters from the batman ouvre, that would have put this ancient plot at risk?


Given the concept of a plan, hatched during the 1700's that relies on generation after generation of willing participants, I'm thinking either someone is seeking attention, should seek psychiatric help or, possibly, someone is filing ridiculous motions in an effort to paint one broad stroke of lunacy over anyone questioning the story.

think no plane/hologram silliness for the batman massacre crowd.

in a phrase..

gun control ..

And then you have to take the next step and ask.... why do you want more gun control in a country that has had ownership of a gun in its constitution for so long.... The answer should be bloody well staring all Americans in the eyes: Because civil unrest is emminent, but this time it probably wont be north vs south but middle class vs elite+private police / army.

They don't want armed civilians because it will create a terrible mess once they start rounding the most of you up as dissidents and placing you all in the FEMA / DHS camps.

You are not allowed to have a say in how your country is run anymore, and once you realise that, the elite has to have a head start on you.

Act now... treason against the American people is being committed and it does NOT matter which guy you "elect" into office, not one bit!

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Bilk22

 

you aren't actually saying that believing that 250 or so years ago, a group of guys hatched a plan to take over the world based on the technology and intelligence of that time, not knowing that, in the future we'd have air travel, cars, wireless communications, the internet, computers, etc is the same as believing in a system of ethics and a god? And you are saying that the men who hatched this plot in the late 1700's were going to rely on the grandchildren of their grandchildren's grand children to follow this plot without knowing anything about the future, technology etc?


Personally, I find both hard to believe and I think that, if they formulated a plan back in the late 1700's and have not, yet, managed to pull it off, they're not worth fearing. The Mets and the Cubs are more likely to win back to back world series. twice.

Umm... yeah, if it's your defense that they could not have foreseen the future of technologies while formulating their plan.... I think you're completely wrong.

1. It does not matter. We are all equal in device, especially those with all the means. It's not hard to keep up with the times, especially if you're directly influencing the speed in which they progress. Duh

2. Lets take Philip Anshutz for example... the man from the article, mr Illuminati...

It's amazingly clear that he has a direction and focus behind everything he does:

en.wikipedia.org...

I'm not going to copy and paste everything this man has done. But, if you are to click that link, you will clearly see that this man is well rounded and adapted. Essentially everything that he is involved in have significant indirect means of influence.

Talking oil, transportation, radio, media, politics, movies, religion, philanthropy ...

Well, influencing the world most effectively is fairly rooted in those arenas.

I have no idea if he is a 'bad man' or 'illuminati'... is it possible that the Illuminati are still around, you bet your ass. It's not that crazy of an idea, that a plan was hatched to take over the world... belonging to particular empires through commerce and media. We're talking about controlling the world, some people take that very seriously.

It's also possible that people just like to toss around the word Illuminati. Maybe now an adjective, we can drop the upper case "I" for now on. illuminati