Unemployed? Hate Your Crummy Job? Start Producing!

reply to post by Destinyone


I am proud to hear you have done this. Could you open a thread and teach us your trade?

reply to post by denver22


That's mighty kind, and I'm sure all the ladies in the house appreciate the shout-out. But men can and do produce just as much as women. I think we need to put aside the perception of this as a "craft" thing. It imposes limits on our thinking that simply aren't accurate or helpful.

Don't get me wrong, if you wanna get crafty, that's awesome (and for the record, I know a few male knitters). But the sky is the limit when it comes to handmade commodities.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Bills and regulations in the US at federal and local level made almost impossible for the small business to succeed on their own.

While hospitality and services businesses re encouraged anything in biggest scale is harder.

That is why everywhere you go small business entrepreneurs are failing miserable and going bankrupt within one to two years of starting.

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Anyone with these concerns can review the information on this thread regarding the law, barter and legislation being implemented that makes it feasible for cottage-style businesses to thrive. To wit:

www.moneycrashers.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

I started off just going round knocking peoples doors asking if they needed the gardening done
windows washed things fixed etc.. Come on guys, get off your knees, pull yourself away from
Your armchair and xbox and get out and earn!

Originally posted by Eidolon23
reply to post by denver22

 

That's mighty kind,

Thank you fair maiden.

and I'm sure all the ladies in the house appreciate the shout-out

At your service ladies.

But men can and do produce just as much as women. I think we need to put aside the perception of this as a "craft" thing. It imposes limits on our thinking that simply aren't accurate or helpful.

Yes very true as my sister is a trained mechanic learnt from just watching the ole man.
Once that eureka moment kicks in the "sky is the limit as you say".

It's all out there just gotta go figure out a way to go get it

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Destinyone

 

I am proud to hear you have done this. Could you open a thread and teach us your trade?

I second that motion, and would like to go further:

If you have skills or a trade you'd like to share, start a thread and feel free to link here! We already have a tremendous resource for learning about growing and processing food:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is mildly off topic,

But I got so much enjoyment and relief from being able to focus on food preparation. It makes me feel useful when I can feed people.

I am really interested in depression era recipes. If you are wondering what to do with your Saturday and you want to bring some comfort and warmth in to your home, please consider the kitchen if you have not already.

Savvy Frugality. Depression Era Recipes

Grandma's Tater Tot Casserole

1 pound browned ground beef (you can substitute ground turkey)
2 cans of cream of mushroom soup
1/2 bag of tater tots
1 can of green beans (drained)
1 soup can of milk

Mix the soup, milk, beans and ground beef in a casserole dish. Stir in half the tater tots and then top the hot dish with more tater tots. Put it a 325 degree oven until bubbling. Take out and let cool a few minutes. Serve.

savvyfrugality.blogspot.com...

Something yummy, gooey, wholesome and hot from the oven hits the spot on many levels and creates an excuse to invite people over.

Tater tots are evil. I'm sure of it.

www2.macleans.ca...

In Canada’s Far North, where two litres of milk can cost $14, a bag of flour $33, and 10 pieces of fried chicken $61.99, the government of Nunavut thinks a better future might lie in the past. So it has launched a program encouraging residents to follow the example of their ancestors and live off the land, harvesting more traditional “country food” like seal, muskox and even ground squirrel. “It’s partly for reasons of cost, and it’s partly for reasons of nutrition,” says Ed McKenna, director of the territory’s Anti-Poverty Secretariat. “But it’s also related to culture. For many people it’s their preferred food.”

Now this is not practical in many areas due to ranching, farming and lots of population. However it is an example of people moving towards doing something useful with their time and efforts. It is also smart, because the foods that people have moved to in these areas are NOT good for them at all and very expensive at the same time.

It is also an excellent example of a useful progressive subsidy that works to fix a deficiency that would not have occurred in the original population's culture as they had already had methods of moving the correct equipment and training through the population.

I thought by the title, this thread was about something else.....

it's more important to do activities that reduce your dependance on other. I'd suggest things like growing vegetable plants and fruit trees. Producing your own food is the closest thing to 'freedom' we have left in america. And it will take up every second of your spare time too. Oh- and you'll learn more about your abilities and shortcomings than from any school, person, or website.

reply to post by Aeons


I had a feeling you would be all, like, "Ewww, tater-tots, gross!"

Tater-Tots are The Staff of Life; whaddr you talkin' about?

You can make them yourself, but the damned taters need to be totified before they go in to that casserole or no one will want to eat it.



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X.

Bravo, good sir!

You are absolutely correct. People cannot sit around on their asses and think things will get better. If you want to make your life better, the best person to do it is yourself.

reply to post by nightbringr


I is a lady.

And thank you.

Originally posted by Aeons

It is also an excellent example of a useful progressive subsidy that works to fix a deficiency that would not have occurred in the original population's culture as they had already had methods of moving the correct equipment and training through the population.

This is a little bit off-topic, but could point the way toward trading leather and meat in an urban area:

Shaun Deller does not want you to trap nutria. Not only do you need a valid fur-takers license, he warns, but the giant water-loving rats (known since time immemorial as "The Filthy Scourge of the Willamette") are "quite aggressive and dangerous when cornered." However! Unlike amateur idiots like you, Deller—an artist, homesteader, and trapper—knows what he's doing. In the past he even taught a class on how to hunt nutria, biking with his students along the Springwater Corridor to Southeast Portland's Johnson Creek where landowners were having problems with nutria "chowing down on all of their crops." After talking with the landowners, Deller identified nutria paths, set instant-kill body-gripper traps along them, and posted a warning for humans nearby. Deller and his students then biked along their line of traps until they found trapped nutria, which they strapped into their bike baskets and brought home to skin, butcher, and cook up. "Since you probably want to know," Deller says, "nutria tastes like chicken with a slight fishiness. I recommend marinating it in some lemon juice and Cajun spices and then grilling it. Your guests will not know that it isn't chicken!"

www.portlandmercury.com...

I was living in Portland when the city began to encourage people to hunt Nutria along the banks of the Willamette for food. If you can conquer your squeamishness, there is a profusion of urban fauna that could be a food source. Here's more on that, with a truly priceless photo:



Can you say "badass"?

"The biggest blunder we ever committed was sliding into a full-bore service economy."

The reason 80% of the jobs are service jobs is because production comes mainly from technology and automation. The production is greater than ever, it's just not done by humans. We consume twice as much per capita than we did 50 years ago.

So the companies have to employ people some how so they have purchasing power to consume all of the goods produced.

Great for big business. Not so great for the majority. The working class.

The sad part is that people waste their lives on a meaningless job just because industry needs to keep them employed so they can be consumers.

I agree that producing things for yourself is a great idea, but it's in no way a solution. The powers that be are too great and there are too many obstacles to overcome to change the economy without some kind of revolution.

Originally posted by Reflection

The reason 80% of the jobs are service jobs is because production comes mainly from technology and automation. The production is greater than ever, it's just not done by humans. We consume twice as much per capita than we did 50 years ago.

Large scale production, yes. We're talking about another kind of economic model, here.

I agree that producing things for yourself is a great idea, but it's in no way a solution. The powers that be are too great and there are too many obstacles to overcome to change the economy without some kind of revolution.

It is a self-evident partial solution, and a good place to start. We the People are pretty darn great in our own right.

ATS Double tap

Originally posted by Eidolon23
reply to post by hawkiye

 

Whoa! Holy crap, hawkiye, thanks for full on bringing it! I'm glad you double posted, b/c that was worth double stars.

Hey, thanks to everybody who contributed their personal stories and info.

I hope you all have a rocking night, and a stellar weekend.

Thanks for the atta-boy! That's weird I did not see a double post but now that I looked this morning I see it. I'll just add where ever anyone is in their the life is is the result of their dominating thoughts. That's right it is YOUR FAULT where you are in your life despite what ever is going on economically or adversely around you! Once I came to realize this I vowed to change it starting with my thought process.

Take a hard look at where you are in your life as opposed to where you want to be. Then take a hard look at what thoughts dominate your mind the majority of the time? See any correlations? It is not easy to do but you have to be brutally honest with yourself. You might not even realize how much negative thought permeate your mind because you are not paying attention to what goes into your mind you are leaving it up to the wind to blow what ever seeds it will into your mind. Much of it comes from others around you both openly and subliminally. You must take control of what you allow into your mind!

The reason this country is in the dumper is a result of the collective negative thoughts that dominate peoples thinking. We all sit around complaining and blaming the politicians banksters corporations rich people etc. for our problems. It keeps us in this defeatist mindset so defeat is what we attract like weeds that spring up all over without any cultivating or nourishment.

As Gandhi said be the change you wish to see. Learn to block out the negative defeatist thoughts the weeds of the mind and you will be surprised at what ideas come into your mind to over come the obstacles that surround us in this economy and in life period. There is great power in such a mindset if you take action when the opportunities arise!

What dominates your thoughts is what you wlll attract into your life. Its not like "The Secret" that is just wishing. What it will attract is opportunity but you must take action. You must cultivate the garden of success in your mind first before you can do it physically.

reply to post by Eidolon23


Feeling boot-strappy today, OP?

I tried setting up a lemonade stand but the cops shut it down.

Now what?

reply to post by Snoopy1978


Well, I'm very sad to hear that.

Cross-reference this post, find out how to keep it legal in your neck of the woods, and hop back in the saddle.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Curious: lemons or mix?

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Feeling boot-strappy today, OP?

I tried setting up a lemonade stand but the cops shut it down.

Now what?

So will you just give up? You need to learn to think outside the box. Set up the lemonade stand and just give the lemonade away as a thank you gift when someone gives a donation. Now you are not selling anything you are giving away free gifts as a token of your appreciation of the donations.

This type of thinking is a great illustration of why most people are not where they'd like to be in their life. They try something and give up at the first setback and never even try and find a way around the it.

You could also research the law and make sure the cops are even right often time they are not. Most people do not do this. Defeatist will quit every time or never even get started most of the time because all they can think of is why it won't work instead of how to make it work despite any adversity.