Mitt Romney Accidentally Confronts A Gay Veteran; Awesomeness Ensues

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by PatrickGarrow17

 

Flip floppa floppa flim flam. Do hardcore conservatives even realize his state legalized same sex marriage while he was governor? Not sure of Mass. laws, specifically, but most states have a governor veto option.

Edit: now that I think about it, Mass definitely has a veto option because Romney vetoed a bill relating to abortion late in his term.

I think the Republican base is to blame for most of the Romney campaigns shortcomings, I actually think he's one of the most centrist Republicans in the country. His platforms are conforming to necessity, he'd have no problem supporting same sex marriage if it wouldn't cost him the presidential nomination.

I can't wait to see this issue on the debate stage, even though it is small potatoes when looking at the big picture.

He would have made a much better candidate as a moderate Republican who would have upheld his former stance on marriage equality, as well as openly embracing his universal health care plan in Massachusetts. But he had to swing to the hard right just to fit in with the new version of the Teapublican party - that's why he allied himself with the more extreme right-wing members of his party like Ryan and has a foreign policy cabinet made up of all of Bush's neocons. Now Mitt is having to wear 2 faces and he can't do it.

FYI he was once a Democrat, he ran against Ted Kennedy in 1992 or 93, but Kennedy destroyed him in a debate for the primaries. Absolutely DESTROYED him, look it up on YouTube. For that reason as any other Romney flipped to the Republicans.

Romney spent a small fortune trying to end same sex marriage in Massachusetts back in 2004. The MA healthcare proposal was voted on by the people, they wanted it, Romney worked for his consituents, isn't that what he is suppose to do? How do you compare a State program voted on and approved by the people to a Federal program that was never voted on and forced on States despite thier protests.?

Stick to the facts, you will look much better if you do.

Originally posted by r2d246
Well it's a touchy subject. But my 2 cents is this. If the guy had a gay spouse and he gave him gaids and he died, then I'd say "I'm not paying for his burial, you killed him, you go buy a 5 dollar wal mart shovel and bury him yourself!". Instead they want to infect them with gaids, kill them and have me pay for a 10,000 dollar 1st class funeral? Do I have that straight? Screw that. But I'd pay for the 5 dollar wall mart shovel as long as he agrees to keep the shovel so he can bury his next husband he kills. We are living in WONDERLAND ALICE!!!

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Well...I think the max you'd have to pay for any funeral would be $255 and no more than that.
Even if he was buried at Arlington.

Oh, but wait!
Under Obamacare...a bone marrow transplant from a donor with the HIV-resistant mutation might actually be covered by a medicare/medicaid/private insurance policy!

That would be even less expensive than that cheap made-in-China shovel from Wal-mart you're willing to buy.

Originally posted by Iron7
Fact, most service members support DADT. Take your hippy garbage back to NPR

Where do you source your 'fact' on this?
Here is evidence to the contrary.
And here is the opinion of a straight marine on the matter.
And yet another similar opinion from another straight veteran who served for 7 years during DADT.

But the truth is...that it doesn't matter...it is no longer law.


Even if it was applicable to just 5 servicemen or -women in all 5 branches of the military...it still would have been unfair, unconstitutional, and discriminatory against those 5.

To deny personal freedom to citizens who voluntarily choose to defend your own is the height of hypocrisy. It doesn't take a hippy to recognize hypocrisy.

reply to post by queenannie38

Opposition to gays serving was highest in the Marine Corps, where nearly half the marines are opposed. The Navy was the most welcoming, according to the Pentagon review.

articles.nydailynews.com...

officials at the Pentagon said the final tally on completed responses was 109,883 -- a response rate of only about 27.5 percent.

www.stripes.com...

As you said moot point now.

I don't see what the big deal is gay, straight, bi big whoop. Orgasm is a natural bodily function; demonized in and of itself....I think it funny that people shudder to think how one might get rubbed out, or that it takes place outside of marriage, or with someone with the same organs, or with a random inanimate object. It is a biological function that typically lasts less than a minute then it's over, a little chemical release across the synapses. Much ado about nothing...just more of the same humans not liking something and wish to control the humans that do like that something.

I'm not more than 2 months away from turning 40 and I've had more than enough of this type of asinine nonsense.

Thanks for the video OP.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by r2d246
gaids,

Im thinking this is Red Neck Intelligence for the Disease known as AIDS.

Well sir, a lot more "straight " people die from AIDS than Gay people.

I guess you will buy them shovels as well.

A natural occurence when the number of straight people vastly outnumber gay people.

Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
It is a biological function that typically lasts less than a minute then it's over

Little bit of a sidetrack, take my advice and don't admit to that in public.

Originally posted by GrinchNoMore

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by r2d246
gaids,

Im thinking this is Red Neck Intelligence for the Disease known as AIDS.

Well sir, a lot more "straight " people die from AIDS than Gay people.

I guess you will buy them shovels as well.

A natural occurence when the number of straight people vastly outnumber gay people.

Can you show me statistics to back that up? Gay men account for over 60% of new HIV infections, heterosexuals are 27% and they are almost all women. Try again please.

Gay men are 2% of the population, 61% of HIV infections.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Over 6 months old. Close it.

reply to post by OccamsRazor04

Orgasm not the act to achieve it...

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Good cover

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What an intelligent, scientific, and genuinely thought provoking comment

I wonder how many of you prove yourself hypocrites when you push for the government control and sanctification of the religious institution of marriage out one side of your mouth and then push for the separation of church and state out the other?

Originally posted by vkturbo
Australia is having the same issues now and I have to take the Ron Paul stance that yes let it happen but gay people can't force it on others to have to like it though and as long as they don't try and change the church to recognise them and want their cerimonies at a church and use celebrates there shouldn't be a problem.

How would anyone be "forced" to like it? How is it being "forced" on you?

I don't know what the debate is in Australia specifically, but it seems that the laws are only being changed to allow ceremonies to be conducted by those who CHOOSE to do them. No church is being "forced" to carry out same-sex marriages and no person is being "forced" to accept it.

What is being forced is equality for all - rightly so.

As for the OP, I remember this video from months ago, and it is a good one. I like seeing politicians squirm, and Mitt is one of those people I love to see uncomfortable as often as possible.

I echo what others have said about wishing you don't end up with this bigot in office. I honestly think he would be a very dangerous POTUS.

Great video, Cuervo. Gay people are everywhere, people! From the cute female checker at the Albertson's to the scruffy old vet in the coffee shop. And they should have the same right to marry the person they love as we more straight people do!

My favorite part was watching the confusion and forced composure that slowly come over Mitt's face as he realized that he was talking to a gay man. I also loved the line about "looking a man in the eye". That's the truth!

reply to post by IsThisThingBugged

Originally posted by IsThisThingBugged
I applaud any politician that is consistent, and doesn't just tell people what they want to hear.

Maybe you need to read a little about Mitt Romney and his changing positions. He's agreed with EVERYTHING at one point or another.

Anything to distract from the fact Obama is killing innocents and Americans with drones strikes, high unemployment, Gitmo is still open, gas prices are "necessarily" skyrocketing, deficit is 16 trillion, Mexican gangs getting guns from Obama and "green jobs" are a total flop.

It must be nice to have a mass propaganda media on your side to help distract from these negatives.

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The guy is a weasel.
Maybe if he repeats his stance enough people will believe it to be true.

Man, this story is OLD. Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich are no longer running. Hello? It's the general election season, not the primaries and caucauses.

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Mitt Romney being consistent and not telling people they want to hear, now THAT is funny. The man is a sociopath, don't fall for his gimmicks.

While Im pro gay-marriage I think its more important that a politician sticks to his guns and we know what to expect of him. Obama changes his stance on gay-marriage at the whim of public sentiment and thats neither honest nor consistent. Gays will be more recognized in every manner in society, but whats more important now is the economy not sexual orientation.