ATS Needs Revenue Just Like The Rest Of Us.

The owners of ATS are very clever people.

They had the right idea at the right time.

Advertising is a part of life and it is also how ATS keeps a great site going.

We should be glad that ATS is doing well.

I think if you click on the ads it helps ATS out.

I know ads can be annoying but they dont take away from an awesome site.

reply to post by freemarketsocialist


What you have stated many of us know...and we don't have a problem with the ads.

What I am curious about is...why did you put the OP in the (rant section)?

They could make as much money as they like, as far as I'm concerned.. wouldn't we all?

Its their blatant censorship and dictatorship that makes me dubious.... Oh well.. tread carefully and you get to keep your membership

That's why I hate jerks with adblock, it's not like you're forced to click or even pay attention to ads, AdSense doesn't accept crap spammy ads and they might even be something you're interested in.

Originally posted by Sinny
They could make as much money as they like, as far as I'm concerned.. wouldn't we all?

Its their blatant censorship and dictatorship that makes me dubious.... Oh well.. tread carefully and you get to keep your membership

You are correct about the censorship.. But I see you posting on the boards almost daily.. It's not like anyone is keeping you here.. Just saying.. If you think it is so bad just log out and don't post anymore..

I have personally seen it get worse over the past 2 years.. I learned it will never get better.. I only post on ATS occasionally now.. I think the only way the censorship will cease is if they start losing more members..

I know quite a few older members who have disappeared to more "respected" corners of the net..

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I know quite a few older members who have disappeared to more "respected" corners of the net..

Thanks for the laugh....There are places on the Net that are respected?

Please tell us....Where is this Xanadu?

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You are correct about the censorship.. But I see you posting on the boards almost daily.. It's not like anyone is keeping you here.. Just saying.. If you think it is so bad just log out and don't post anymore..

The analogy I see thrown about is that your in ATS house and you must follow their rules as a guest in their house.

My only problem with that is as Sinny said, the rampant censorship, even on topics that are CURRENT political issues, Obama using Harlod and Kummar as an example could get you censored on here.

The way I look at it is that ATS does get revenue from us via ADs, so they ask us to see some pretty offensive adds from time to time.

Such as asking us to Sign a petition to attack IRAN.

Its a bit hypocritical to censor social issues, while asking us to ad support them with some ads that at times are worse than the social issue they will censor.

Its a bit mercenary of them that ideals go out the window when it comes to ad revenue.

I do not begrudge ATS ads, all websites have them.

My problem is with willingly making money off of us while stifling open discourse when it suits them, and than turning around and saying their slogan is Deny Ignorance.

Free and open Discourse is the glue that holds a free society together, ATS has a right to censor what they wish, just as we have the right to not come here as well.

Id simply wish they would change their slogan as its blatantly hypocritical at times (adds to attack iran, how is that denying ignorance?)

Originally posted by TechVampyre

Originally posted by Sinny
They could make as much money as they like, as far as I'm concerned.. wouldn't we all?

Its their blatant censorship and dictatorship that makes me dubious.... Oh well.. tread carefully and you get to keep your membership

You are correct about the censorship.. But I see you posting on the boards almost daily.. It's not like anyone is keeping you here.. Just saying.. If you think it is so bad just log out and don't post anymore..

I have personally seen it get worse over the past 2 years.. I learned it will never get better.. I only post on ATS occasionally now.. I think the only way the censorship will cease is if they start losing more members..

I know quite a few older members who have disappeared to more "respected" corners of the net..

Ahh you agree about the censorship. And yet you post quite often still. I see you around Side Show Bob! Aha.

There's a reason I'm still here, but that's between me, myself and I

I found a lot of those members that have disappeared, it's lead me far and wide across the internet, amazing where you end up really.

Actually is it just me or have the boards here been awfully slow all week?

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Ahh, where I lack the vocabulary to convey my thoughts coherently, you sure fill the void for me,

Thanks!

Thanks for the laugh....There are places on the Net that are respected? Please tell us....Where is this Xanadu?

It's all about different protocols and layers of the net my friend..

Ahh you agree about the censorship. And yet you post quite often still. I see you around Side Show Bob! Aha.

What can I say.. every time I think I am out.. They pull me back in.. DAMN YOU ATS!

Originally posted by SpearMint
That's why I hate jerks with adblock, it's not like you're forced to click or even pay attention to ads, AdSense doesn't accept crap spammy ads and they might even be something you're interested in.

Originally posted by freemarketsocialist

Originally posted by SpearMint
That's why I hate jerks with adblock, it's not like you're forced to click or even pay attention to ads, AdSense doesn't accept crap spammy ads and they might even be something you're interested in.

Do both of you actually 'hate' people with adblock? Is this something that actually upsets you? Do you go to people's houses, use their internet, see they have adblock and then go into a fit of rage? Do you hang out around the office talking about which sob has adblock and how of a better person you are for not having it? (yes, I'm being facetious now.)

But really now, why even waste the time to give your energy towards thinking about people who use adblock? Why let it affect you negatively?

I recommend that you stop worrying about how other people are utilizing their internet experience.

Yes, I recognize the slight hypocrisy here, as I'm letting your negativity affect me, and thus me express concern with how you utilize your internet experience. But I can no longer sit aside as negativity continues to spread through this world. It needs to stop. People need to learn how to be compassionate, caring people again. People need to be made aware of how they are utilizing their energy and their thoughts. Negative thoughts produce negative energy creates a negative world. We can change the world by choosing to switch to positivity and love.

So, I invite you to Love.
Where: Everywhere
When: Always now
Why: Because otherwise the world sucks

cheers!

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Do you also hate DVR's that allow you to skip commercials?

because frankly thats the EXACT same thing...

I can honestly say I have NEVER clicked an ad on the internet, I just dont do that.

I don't need more programing thrown at me at every turn, consumerism at its worse which could arguably be the source of ALL of Americas current problems.

Originally posted by benrl
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Do you also hate DVR's that allow you to skip commercials?

because frankly thats the EXACT same thing...

I can honestly say I have NEVER clicked an ad on the internet, I just dont do that.

I don't need more programing thrown at me at every turn, consumerism at its worse which could arguably be the source of ALL of Americas current problems.

I know what you mean. My youngest "caught" the running frog or monkey or whatever it was in an ad and clocked on it.. I wound up reloading my operating system. Stupid ads.
However, we all benefit from ATS having these ads ( I know you know) . Its free for us to get on here and babble and complain.. and I find that hard to gripe about.

reply to post by freemarketsocialist


Advertising is the money that feeds the site but it is the content that brings people here. Much of the present content is trash and spam by people who don't give a hoot about the site's motto. If there is a problem with a shortfall in revenue, either they should stop the spam or stop spending what they have.

We provide the content, they get paid from advertising. Clicks are good, but money is made from ads shown even if we don't click. That is why "adblockers" are not permitted when visiting.

btw, the site is currently worth $636,698

"Censorship" is in the eye of the person who decides to break the site T&C willingly, and then bitch and moan about it when they are pulled up on it.

Of course, its easier to attack the forum staff than admit you've done something stupid, isn't it?

Simply put, there is a red x in the top corner, and you don't have to come back at all.

Feel free to join the masses out there who think that youtube comments section is civilised discussion.