The beginning of the end?

In light of recent events surrounding the Republican Party, I am disgusted with the actions of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. One has to wonder what their motives are concerning the upcoming election. It seems that winning is not the objective at hand given their actions.

The public seems to be paying more attention (about time) to this election- although it does not mean voter turnout will be higher. To the point, the actions of the canidates are more magnified than in past elections.

With that said, I have a few thoughts concerning their actions:

1. Could it be that after the past decade, more wrongdoing and under- the- table dealings have come to light and the powers to be have realized this? The general public, via the internet is better informed. Could it be possible they are attempting to formulate their own exit strategy?
With a republican controlled house, winning this election should be paramount-without failure. It almost seems that they are deliberatley destroying their bid to win this election. To openly lie and cheat on a world stage in front of a nation of disenchanted voters defies logic.

2. The country is in free fall destruction mode right now, and as a general opinion is beyond repair. Could it be that the Republicans realize this, and are just going through the motions to allow the democrats to be at the helm when the ship finally goes down between now and 2016?

In any case, it shows disdain for the citizens. The first scenario allows them to maintain control of the house(pending the outcome of elections) and vote down anything that could help the economy, or it's constituents.
We have already had the past four years of passive leadership due to maintaining or positiong for more power.

So in theory, if the republicans are throwing in the towel for 2012, they are playing a dangerous game. What if the two party system gets removed by the people by 2016?(wishful thinking). Could there be a remote chance that both parties know the game is up and one is bowing out while the other does damage control? .

I think it is just a matter of time before figures in washington start turning on each other, and bowing out quickly-and this election is just the beginning.

I am an Independant. I do not support either the Democrat or Republican Parties

May tomorrow be a better day..

Interesting thought popped in my head upon reading your OP.....

This won't promise a fix, but it would do one thing at least.

We need to put one party in control of all three: President, House, and Congress.

This will make it perfectly clear to that party that this is on their collective head, they have no excuse for not taking action, ie. other party 'not playing fair'.

If the system doesn't get fixed, then next election....It is 100% clear what was done, what wasn't done, and who is to blame. Next election, the other party gets the same chance. If we are still around after their chance, America now knows what each party is about, and can finally accept the problem....First step in fixing a problem is accepting that there is a problem.

If it does get fixed, it is 100% clear that the other party just wasn't really interested in finding a solution.

reply to post by pointr97


Didn't the Republican Party control the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch AND the Judical Branch under GWB in his first term? And didn't the Democtatic Party control the Executive Branch' the House of Representitves AND the Senate during Obamas first two years? I think you are engaging in wishful thinking here.

Why do threads like this exist?
Why even have a political section?
It's like talking about a soap opera and wondering whats going to happen to so and so...

Don't we all know by now that this is all a game designed to pacify us until we die?

I don't think anything is happening that "TPTB" haven't allowed to happen. Or I should say that I think very little happens in this country that isn't allowed to happen. In terms of bad stuff, "accidentally on purpose".

I think they want Obama in for another term and obviously, they always get exactly what they want. So what's the best way to throw an election? Send in a candidate who can't really distinguish himself on the one thing Obama has done that was extremely unpopular (the Obamacare mandate) and then have Republicans do all kinds of things they know are going to turn off voters. Even if Republicans are antiabortion, this was a terrible time to put it in the spotlight. This is the kind of thing you'd do if you wanted to turn off the female voters especially.

I think it's obvious. I believe if this election wasn't a sham, Romney would not be the candidate. There has to be someone better. And there has to be a halfway supportable Republican who didn't just push "the blueprint for Obamacare" a few years ago on a state level. There's no way the Republicans didn't think that was going to come up if they went with Romney.

And plus, Romney just has no charisma at all. Everyone knows you have to be able to move people and be likable in order to win elections.

reply to post by shoshoniwolf


The beginning of the end is just the middle point of any story

reply to post by TerryMcGuire


Nope, having a 1 vote control does not stop the other party from causing problems......and yes, it was wishful thinking because it won't happen. My point was to suggest this is what ought to happen to bring them out of their sheepskin.

Agreed. He's in for another term. His whole life has been a lie to get him where he is. And I fear he's not done with us yet...

And that's your basis for the end??????? A little lame don't you think. Oh wait...I think it's uhmmm.......insert freak here.

Very interesting thought. Hopefully we'll know soon what's going on.

Yep, they threw the last one as well, this is the reason Hillary stepped aside also. The current POTUS was chosen for a reason, to fail. I most certainly believe that if Romney wins, things will at least appear to get a tad better for a bit and its not end game. If they lose, things will get worse and we the little people are screwed even more so than now. And for the record, I do not think Obama is the sole cause of this, hes just been picked as the one to serve and fail, Romney is not the reason for the improvement either, hes just the figure they chose to serve if this is the case. There is no doubt that TPTB know if we are truly going down the tubes or not , at least now or later. They are good at what they do unfortunately..

Originally posted by Wiz4769
Yep, they threw the last one as well, this is the reason Hillary stepped aside also. The current POTUS was chosen for a reason, to fail. I most certainly believe that if Romney wins, things will at least appear to get a tad better for a bit and its not end game. If they lose, things will get worse and we the little people are screwed even more so than now. And for the record, I do not think Obama is the sole cause of this, hes just been picked as the one to serve and fail, Romney is not the reason for the improvement either, hes just the figure they chose to serve if this is the case. There is no doubt that TPTB know if we are truly going down the tubes or not , at least now or later. They are good at what they do unfortunately..

Romney is unelectable just like McCain was in 08 only for different reasons
McCain was to old first and he was paired with Palin;
Obama was set up to win and did before the west coast results where in.

Romney is not a bad choice his dad was one of the most popular Goveners Michigan has ever had.
That said and I have nothing against Mormons, but
America or the American voters will never elect a Mormon to the White House

It's just not going to happen, though the numbers will look just right to make the election look legit
But like 08 its already over before it starts. Why go thru all the work of rigging an election
when you can just option close the America public into choosing from the lesser of two bad choises