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Is this the new rule, you can't deviate in your opinion from one day to the next?
stand by your words and try not to run away
I hope you do not mean "shut up and just put up with the way things are".
put up or shut up jmdewey60
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
Is this the new rule, you can't deviate in your opinion from one day to the next?
stand by your words and try not to run awayI hope you do not mean "shut up and just put up with the way things are".
put up or shut up jmdewey60
If you mean "produce results", then I can't on my own and need everyone to vote for me first.
If you mean "reinforce your argument", then that is simple enough by using other things in the First Amendment as examples. You can't actually say whatever you want even though there is a clause about freedom of speech.
You also do not have full freedom of the press where there are restrictions on where you can film things.
Freedom to assemble has been thoroughly done away with for things like a G-8 summit.
The petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances, is done away with by judges who refuse cases to be heard as a matter of course if it potentially may hamper the activities of TPTB.
Do you think there was a delegation of American Indians at the Constitutional Convention? Obviously the US had no respect for their religion and did everything possible to eradicate it.
How is it that The Constitution was written by Christians only for Christians - come again?
. ... The Convention included no women, no slaves, no Native Americans or ...Constitutional Convention of 1787
And, Yes, if you had a Muslim country draw up a constitution, they might write something like, "Heck Yeah!, cruel and unusual punishment, not only does it scare people into compliance, but it is fun to do or to watch, that is if you are on the right side".
You believe they're the only ones that can play by the rules?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
Do you think there was a delegation of American Indians at the Constitutional Convention? Obviously the US had no respect for their religion and did everything possible to eradicate it.
How is it that The Constitution was written by Christians only for Christians - come again? You believe they're the only ones that can play by the rules?
And, Yes, if you had a Muslim country draw up a constitution, they might write something like, "Heck Yeah!, cruel and unusual punishment, not only does it scare people into compliance, but it is fun to do or to watch, that is if you are on the right side".edit on 1-9-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
en.wikipedia.org...
The Establishment Clause is the first of several pronouncements in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, stating,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Together with the Free Exercise Clause ("... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"), these two clauses make up what are called the "religion clauses" of the First Amendment.[1]
The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another. The first approach is called the "separation" or "no aid" interpretation, while the second approach is called the "non-preferential" or "accommodation" interpretation. The accommodation interpretation prohibits Congress from preferring one religion over another, but does not prohibit the government's entry into religious domain to make accommodations in order to achieve the purposes of the Free Exercise Clause.
Paul quoted heavily from the OT too.
Some people, especially the Medieval Christian writers, thought of the Muslim religion as a heretical off-shoot of Christianity. So the "cult" label applies both ways.
Now I could have included Judaism in my general denunciation but it should be noted that the "stoning of the woman caught in adultery" story in the Gospel of John is just that, a story, and they had quit doing that sort of thing before this event allegedly took place.
Muslims get to be Muslims - and Americans - at the same time!!!
If they believe in a toned-down, Americanized version of Islam, similar to how American Catholics believe in a toned-down Americanized version of Catholicism.
I think the original article mentioned the Patriot Act, so it makes in sort of simple in a way, that under the way things work now, the Constitution is basically out the window, and if you just act in a suspicious way, as a potential threat, then "secret" laws come into effect where people are likely to just disappear, as could happen in any country once the rights of the people has been breached.
who gets to decide 'if'?
As long as no laws are broken - they can practice whatever form of religion they want
it's not complicated