The Men In Black(OPs) The Aviary & UFOs

Fortunately for us, since ATS is the lab and all, we don't really have to go anywhere else to find the best examples of how weaponized narratives and memes develop and change over time.

Remember this thread...

The 'Event' is upon us.

It is closed for staff review, as it should be.

The person this lady is interviewing obviously is in with NASA. He tries to not spill the beans but the interviewer did a great job pulling information out of him. He says there are two events a comet cluster and a dark star or binary sun. The most interesting part of the interview is part 2, which was back in 1998(the first part is 1996). She asked him when these events would take place, his answer - "0-14 years". 2012-1998 = 14

No, the 'person' that the 'lady' (Laura Knight-Jadczyk) is talking to is a channeled disincarnate entity from Orion.

And before that lady was talking to that 'person', another lady was talking to 'it' and it's friends; her name was Barbara Marciniak but when she was talking to 'them' they were 'pleiadians'.

And there have been plenty of folks that have 'talked' to 'them' afterwards and in fact it is the basis for the whole 'Galactic Federation' narrative.

What I have just turned you on to there is also the basis for the whole, "5th density beings" thing and the 'service to self' 'service to others' thing that has been circulating since the eighties.

All of these narratives can be traced back to a literary source. I realize that I am using 'literary' rather loosely here, but I think that you all get it.



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I've been entertaining a rather disquieting thought; maybe a large part of the population prefers exciting spun-from-whole-cloth narratives rather than an uncomfortable truth?

Pleadians who will save us rather than facing that which seeks to enslaves us? Maybe even we who perceive ourselves to be denying ignorance are really just waiting for a juicy--but seemingly benign--narrative to play with...or with us.

A false sense of security and some entertainment now, in lieu of facing our complicated future?

Okay...I guess I'm a little naive...of course the storyline prevails. The denouement is gonna be one hell of a wake-up call, though, Im thinkin'. Just a guess.

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Well if the movies are anything to go by, the whole world collapses into a singularity and we're all



How many times have we been fed the idea that the the moment the "truth" is found, the baddies defeated, the whole edifice comes crumbling down? Indiana Jones, Lara Croft, a hundred Doug Mclure Hammer/Tigon/Amicus B Movies.

There was a weird gangster TV series called "Jute City" ostensibly about Scottish crime syndicates. In the last episode came one of the weirdest pieces of TV I think I've ever viewed. One of the criminal overlords was discussing life etc with some character and he looks up at the night sky, then without so much as a change in tone from the mundane says as his arm sweeps across the firmament something like.

"Of course, we've done this on countless worlds it's just our way"

I mentioned Gorbachev's resignation speech how many remember those words? I tell you now, the friend I was with didn't half sit up and take notice as did I. "I leave the world in the hands of the Knights of Malta".

That was some weird statement coming from the leader of a superpower how many times have you ever seen it quoted? A million conspiracy sites and yet, there you had a world leader say something , in public, on camera like that and hands up who has never even heard of it?

The down side of all this is that.... it scares the willies out of me at times, the up side is, ..... it scares the willies out of those who think they should rule, a darn sight more .

There is, at its' heart, an essential paradox and maybe, just maybe that's the key to understanding some of all this. We live in a creation where almost anything that can happen has or will, we as humans actually have some grasp on that as our brains work on the same principle, that principle is in effect, infinity itself. Ergo one can alter moods, we all do it daily, you can suggest paths for people to follow. However, as the human brain is, to all intents and purposes an infinite structure, it is, in reality, impossible to actually control. As much as you might like to try and rationalise it all the facts, as we know them right now are this. Not one person can provide empirical data to prove that this whole thread is not merely in your own mind and nothing more than you personally, holding and externalised internal dialogue with yourself. Everything we do, is in fact, a merely what we internally view as a practical way of coping with the world as we see it and essentially the world we created as we cannot actually prove it is anything else to anyone else. We are all our own "Horselover Fat" you simply cannot have a "group" exegesis.

So they will construct their systems, make their plots, be as devious as necessary, in the end, they can;t actually control any more than you or I can, they are merely angry at their own impotence so they assuage that anger by playing rather silly games.

And now, if I may be so bold, we may finally discuss the work of 'Peter David Beter' in a more meaningful and productive way.

For those of you that are familiar with this thread, Beter's seminal narrative work in the field of conspiracy theories may very well be the basis for the narrative used by every 'actor' (Performance Artists, IMO) that came after him. That could mean, William Cooper, Alex Jones, David Icke and later the likes of Michael Tsarion.

Ever Heard of Dr. Peter Beter...

And just as food for thought for the moment, I don't mean to insult anyone, but consider the times during which people like Dion Fortune, Aleister Crowley and Manly Hall were writing for a living. All of this stuff was just as popular then. Do you think that these authors might be seen in the same light as the present day 'authors' that we are talking about? Like I said, just food for thought.

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O.K. I got a chance to read more of Nick Redfern's Men in Black book. I don't want to give it away - but let's just say there's a reason Kit Green liked Collin Bennett so much and that Kit Green as implemented this new "story" software b.s. on ats.

Basically Collin Bennett argues that the Men In Black are a manifestation of psychic energy that feeds on fear -- like a Meme. Well I don't like the word "meme" as I disagree with Dawkins and all his spin off ideology. I strongly urge people to read E. O. Wilson's new book The Social Conquest of Nature which debunks Dawkins and boy is Dawkins pissed. haha.

Consider this new "500 Days": Author Kurt Eichenwald’s New Account of How Bush Admin Ignored Warnings Before 9/11

So the NeoCons created a story that became reality. Al-Qaeda is a Meme creation of the NeoCons. 9/11 was a mass occult ritual in mind control

Imagination as a positive feedback that develops so much emotional energy it takes on physical form and physical repercussions. It's all based on lies and fears but it doesn't matter because if people are fed the BIG LIE -- as with the Nazis -- then people are inundated so much they are traumatized into belief.

So why is it that satellite t.v. has so many bad cheesy ghost paranormal UFO ancient alien E.T. shows? The point is not whether they are bad or good but that it's the BIG LIE -- inundate people so they are forced to react in defense -- they can't avoid it -- and finally then it takes on physical reality as the new truth.

I just don't watch t.v. -- I do like Destination Truth but mainly as a travel nature show. I also do like "I Survived: Beyond and Back" about NDEs. I tried to like Paranormal State but then it got worse and spun off into so many other worse shows.

Sure UFO Hunters has that one skeptic radiation scientist who is pretty cool -- he debunked the E.T. alien at the window video for example. Thanks for the puppet show!

As Colin Bennett says if confronted by a manifesting Men in Black then just tell a joke -- do something to "short circuit" their energy pattern that is reinforcing. Whatever -- don't take it at face value. Regardless this means doing an emotional exorcism. This has been going on for a long time as Nick Redfern points out the Vampire connection.

I recommend reading the Delicate Dependency by Michael Talbot - considered an underground classic in the vampire fiction genre. I also recommend reading the Religion of Technology by Professor David F. Noble. His last book was a follow up to this. I also recommend reading the Sion Revelation by Prince and Picknett which is their follow up to the Stargate Conspiracy.

Did you all used to like movies? I did.

But when I was just reaching my middle twenties I had already spent two years with nothing but middle eshcelon Hollwood production types (PA's, Craftsmen, Costumers, Lighting etc...) and aspiring screenwriters.

Nothing in the world will destroy your ability to suspend your disbelief while watching a movie than hanging out with those types. I remember it plain as day, we were all (8 or so) lumped in a small room watching some imporatant movie, back in the day, on Bravo. All of them (my friends) were just going on and on about the lighting and costumes and the actresses and actors and finally I turned to them good humordedly and said, "Hey, guys, do you mind? I am trying to suspend my disbelief here".

They all stopped and laughed uproariously at me. it was over then, for me and movies. I just can't watch them any longer like a normal person. Sometimes I get away with watching some Clone Wars or Metalocalypse, but the adult stuff is just so impossible. Last thing I saw that I could stand was Bergmann's Seventh Seal. I am now pretty much stuck with books and Japanese manga.

Anyhow, I bring all of this up because I just wanted to let everyone know that we already come pre-equipped with a hardwired information security system. We also need to realize that we are already experts of narrative and stortelling; all of us. There is no need to look beyond ourselves...

Suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief is a term coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who suggested that if a writer could infuse a "human interest and a semblance of truth" into a fantastic tale, the reader would suspend judgment concerning the implausibility of the narrative.

Suspension of disbelief often applies to fictional works of the action, comedy, science fiction, and horror genres. Cognitive estrangement in fiction involves using a person's ignorance or lack of knowledge to promote suspension of disbelief.

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Two things to realize...

1. The suspension of our disbelief has more to do with our capacity for joyful participation then it does our ability to detect bull#.

It is very important to realize that. This is the gift we give one another, that under the circumstances, we will suspend our disbelief for one another, in order to paticipate in something we find mutually pleasing. See why we have best selling books and authors?

The best authors make the best rock and roll, and people will return to patronize the author with tithings of their disbelief. The best books are best sellers because people wish to return to the world created by the author so that they may suspend their disbelif in a dependable way that they already know will pay off.

It would probably behoove the scientists that we are referring to as The Aviary to realize that this is the root of 'Fan Fickleness'. If people that have willingly given a 'performer' the suspension of their disbelief realize that they have been played or lied to, or if the 'writers' have been found to be less than genuine? Their collective disposition can turn on a dime.

2. I have taken certain liberties with Victor Hugo's word egregore and Sam Coleridge's idea suspension of disbelief.

I really think that is as it should be. They are good words that grow steadily in application. I am using them because I feel they are the best words for the job.

Thanks for reading.

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yeah I think this is where Neoformalism as a philosophy of fiction becomes politically radical.

Bretchian cognitive dissonance as -- distancing

So we can say catharsis through suspension of disbelief is a good thing -- like listening to blues music because it's so sad it makes you happy.

Music being the language of emotions directly - this is proven now to be transcultural -- "program" music is understood even in nonwestern tribes who have never heard equal-tempered western music.

But that does not mean the contrary is true -- that does not mean that the West understands nonwestern trance music as a deeper level beyond emotional catharsis.

Essentially when the sympathetic nervous system is pushed to its extreme then it flips into a equally strong parasympathetic relaxation response. So the females will sing a repetitive phrase and the males listen and dance for 8 hours nonstop until they collapse into a trance state.

Now what happens -- this was studied by a MKUltra mind control scientist btw -- he traveled the world studying trance music rituals - but he didn't get to the original trance music culture of the Bushmen.

What happens is if the trance goes deep enough the left side vagus nerve activates the heart to create strong electromagnetic energy - this is fed by the right side vagus nerve doing down to the reproductive organs.

The reproductive organs can suck up the lower emotional energy from external sources -- especially sucked up through the perineum. the emotional energy is electrochemical.

So with enough lower emotional energy -- fear, anger, lust, sadness, worry -- then the heart can build up the love energy so strong through internal climaxes of the vagus nerve.

Again the male has to trance dance for 8 hours but the initial training is a month of fasting with no females and trance dancing the whole time when the male energy is strongest at puberty.

So anyway when the electromagnetic heart energy gets strong enough then it opens up the pineal gland as holographic spirit energy. This is coherent quantum biophoton energy.

So we think of trance music as redundant and boring -- it doesn't deal in normal human emotions -- it's about what happens after the emotions are built up to such an intense state they go beyond any emotion as holographic electromagnetic laser energy.

Toward what I believed to be the end of the evening, Xaxe, a great hunter, healer, and shaman, laid hands on me....I felt the energy, his energy, surge through my body. He had his hands on me for about twenty-five or thirty seconds, but it felt like he had only touched me for a split second. Time stood still. I literally had a short out of body experience. I could see him touching me from just above my body, almost like I was floating six feet off the ground, watching myself. All of a sudden I was back in my body observing an image of him thumbing through the book that contained all the pictures and moments in my life. I saw images of my childhood I hadn't remembered in years, pictures of my mother and me walking on a beach and shelling, very strong images. At the time, both during his touch and immediately afterward, I described it as him flipping through the pages of my life....Later the next morning, I spoke with Xaxe about the trance dance. He told me he wanted access to me in a way that was not possible through a translator....Xaxe's curiosity was such a caring, loving gesture....When he detached from me it felt like someone was unplugging a lamp from a wall socket. As he let go of me and continued to dance around the fire, I spontaneously burst into uncontrollable tears....I had been stripped to my emotional core, completely stunned by what I had witnessed so up close and personal.151 151 Andrew Zimmern, The Bizarre Truth: how I walked out the door mouth first – and came back shaking my head (Random House, 2009), 234-5.

So the Actual Matrix Plan is the attempt to use fear and technology to physically manifest the Men in Black as a global quantum brain supercomputer holograph.

But it won't work because the Cosmic Mother will never be unveiled due to quantum time-frequency uncertainty. Reality is based on complementary opposites using the lunar energy as ecological harmony -- and so we can use positive love light visualization to literally change physical reality. We do this by accepting mystery as a positive origin that does not need to be contained nor controlled -- we logically infer the source of reality as not defined by something we can perceive through our senses -- so it's not even a holographic reality - -it's a formless awareness as a nondual reality. Lacanian lack - Zizek is good on this stuff but not deep.

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One World - No Boarders. It sounds SWEET! An idealistic dream since childhood. Even after maturity, I've longed for it. I love folk of every persuasion and have always had an intense interest in other cultures. My children are Amerasian.

The only difference being that, now, as an adult, I know that those who seek--and will control--the coming "global-world" aren't philosophically equipped, nor ethically inclined, to make it the kind that many of us envision.

Does the study of narrative weaponization include Conspiracy Theory as one edge of a Hegelian dialectic?

Not just learning how to sway and covertly coerce (the stand-off modality) but also contain within itself a degree of impetus for a increasingly fractured society? If one were a Globalist, is all CT good CT? Even this? Now THAT is a strange loop.

It's not just E.T. mythology that might be unleashed, observed, and directed.

Take Bird & Swine flu (problem) for instance. If one could learn how to efficiently spread that meme, then a civilian "enemy" population may loose the will to resist (fear/reaction) and turn to the "provider" of the inoculation (solution.)

What about that most fascinating personage, Dr. Peter Beter, X? How do we interpret folk like that?

Hegelian dialectic, usually presented in a threefold manner, was stated by Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus as comprising three dialectical stages of development: a thesis, giving rise to its reaction, an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis.
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