I beheld Satan falling as Baraq “O” Bamah

Food for thought. Since the Anti-Christ will come to 'save us' under false pretenses is it not possible that Obama was put in so that We, The People would vote for the other in election just to get him out? Wouldn't that make the transition to Anti-Christ in office more subtle? I'm not happy with either candidate, don't trust any politician. But, if my ultimate goal was to get someone in office, I'd sure have a great chance if American citizens were upset, aggrevated, facing financial doom, etc.. etc... and wanted the President elect removed thru election process. We will be decieved. According to the Prophecy of Malachi stating this is the last Pope in Vatican right now and the next will usher in the Anti-Christ. I would look closer into the puzzle pieces fitting together. Sometimes the answer is right under our nose and if we analyze too much, we miss the obvious.

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That's way to deep...

carry on

Again, I didn't invent the Hebrew language. This passage is ancient, and if you don't like the words of Jesus, it's not my fault that he said, "I beheld Satan falling as Baraq O Bama". Take it up with Luke who apparently heard it from Jesus.

Now as for Satanists not using the Baphomet imagery I do believe Crowley is much revered by Satanists, and this is what he had to say,




British Satanist Aleister Crowley writes The Gnostic Mass in which Baphomet is hailed as the God of Man. He solidifies the goat-headed and hermaphroditic image of the Baphomet into the modern consciousness, both as a symbol of fertility and strength and as one of anti-Christian power.

From Condensed History of Worship

I think I'll take Crowley's word for Satanism over the posters on ATS who obviously have a liberal axe to grind. I find it comical really because I had a slight argument with my sister tonight when she tried to get me to see Mitt Romney will be better than Obama. I said, "Oh really?" "And, this is because he won't continue the very policies which Obama is continuing from Bush's time who was just being a good little puppet."

She said the typical, "Well, sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils". So, I retorted, if Obama is going off a 10,000 ft cliff in a Maserati at 1000 mph and Romney is going over it in a Volvo at 500 mph then I should support and get in Romney's ride? How about we look at poison. If I put a 16 oz glass of poison and an 8oz glass of poison in front of you and tell you one will kill you in 10 minutes and the other in 20 minutes, pick one you will tell me it is my civic duty to drink one?

Truth is truth whether you like it or not. I reported the facts from the bible. These psychopaths are known by their fruit, and they are all evil. Don't comply and stop being a dupe / goat by hating something you really have been conditioned by Satan to hate. Most people hate the church because of Satan using evil men within it, but it doesn't change the truths of Jesus. Of course if you want to run after Satan, like his greener pastures, and your life is perfect, don't listen to the words of love shared in the bible. Satan is the one who pollutes and twists the word to be one of hate.

Enjoy the ride folks, many wished they lived in this generation, and we are that chosen generation. The last shall be first and the first last. We can handle it!

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
British Satanist Aleister Crowley writes The Gnostic Mass in which Baphomet is hailed as the God of Man. He solidifies the goat-headed and hermaphroditic image of the Baphomet into the modern consciousness, both as a symbol of fertility and strength and as one of anti-Christian power.

Oh my gosh, you are doing it again. You are saying somebody is "Satanist" just because a neo-satanist revered him. If a bunch of Satanists started revering you, would that make you a satanist? Crowley was NOT a "satanist". The "Do as thou wilt" line from him is used in the exact opposite of its meaning by that fake Anton. Anton is more lined with modern capitalist philosophy (Ayn Rand) than he was with Crowley.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
I think I'll take Crowley's word for Satanism over the posters on ATS who obviously have a liberal axe to grind.

Firstly, those weren't even Crowley's words. Those were words somebody else wrote about Crowley. Again, Crowley is a subject I know first hand, having actually taken the time to purchase and read some of his works. Nothing you wrote about him is accurate.

And what do you mean about "liberal axe"? When did this become about politics? I thought we were discussing your confusion on the existence of legitimate religions and how they don't all revolve around your Jesus.

Some info on the pentagram or 5-pointed star - upright with point at the top.

To invert this pentagram with the point at the bottom, usually symbolizes discord or disobedience, hence why it's used to symbolize the devil, or evil. Just as the inverted cross is used.

Here is a YouTube which illustrates a pentagram which is drawn with the orbits of Venus and Earth. Interesting that it works like this eh?





Remember those Spyrographs you could draw designs like this from the old days? Amazing considering the simplicity and elegance how this works without everything crashing into the other, perfectly balanced or we'd not be here.

Notice how the completed orbits of both creates a beautiful and flowing design which is pleasing to the eyes? But if you only drew the OCCULT or linear pentagram, it lacks the curves and pleasing aspect and if you only had the occult version and inverted it being upside down, it would be offensive to the more beautiful one? One is beautiful and takes time to create while the other is ugly and linear and is easy to draw while negating or destroying the significance of the other, thus falling from light.

Can you see the inference of what I'm saying here?

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" I thought we were discussing your confusion on the existence of legitimate religions and how they don't all revolve around your Jesus. "

do you consider yourself a satanist? and what does the religion of satanism revolve around?

blah blah blah and more blah i guess you have a right to your opinion even if it is complete non-sense

Originally posted by ImaFungi
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" I thought we were discussing your confusion on the existence of legitimate religions and how they don't all revolve around your Jesus. "

do you consider yourself a satanist? and what does the religion of satanism revolve around?

I am not a Satanist. Satanism (theistic) revolves around the bible and nothing else. Anton's Satanism revolves around anything he thought looked cool and dark at the time which includes crosses, upside-down pentacles, anything goat-like (since Christian already had an established hatred for that sort of thing), and lots of pictures of anything gothic.

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That is rude. Why not use a carrot instead of a stick, perhaps you'd get nuzzled by the horse instead of being kicked in the nuts.

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i want nothing to do with that horse im sorry you think that was rude but i really think this post i ridiculous

I think the white horse prophecy of the mormons pretty much sums up who is most likely to be the anti christ. And this is not some thing made up just for the election. Its been around as long as the mormons. It say the constitution will be hanging by a thread and the white horse will come to save the country and turn the country over to mormon rule. Glenn Beck who works for Romney has been preaching the constitution is hanging by a thread. just in time for his boss Romney to come in as the white horse. And how much more anti christ can you get then gluttony that Romney and the mormon church shows. Mormons dealt with mobsters to build Las Vegas which was desert that belonged to the mormons. They then went on to deal with drug cartels and laundering money. Over seas secret banks accounts. All using casinos and mobsters. Then it turned into the billionaire thing with people like Howard Hughes. And you can see whats going on these days. The Mormons created Sin City Las Vegas. What does that tell you?

www.rexburgstandardjournal.com... 250CjU1Wf

Rammell apologizes for LDS elders only meetings Story Commenting ShareShare Print Create a hardcopy of this page Font Size: Default font size Larger font size Posted: Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:00 am Rammell apologizes for LDS elders only meetings IDAHO FALLS — Rex Rammell has had a change of heart regarding who is invited to his "elders of Israel only" meetings. At a press conference Thursday, the Idaho gubernatorial candidate issued a formal apology with regards to his exclusion of non-Mormons from his upcoming meetings dealing with the so-called "White Horse Prophecy." Reading from a prepared statement, Rammell said he was wrong to assume that nonmembers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints wouldn't be interested in hearing his message. "To all those citizens who are not members of the LDS faith, who have expressed a sincere interest in attending my meetings and discussing this prophecy and how we can step forward and save the United States Constitution, I would like to apologize and invite them wholeheartedly to join us," said Rammell. Rammell also says that he hopes that the meetings will bring people of all faiths together to "unite in a common cause … to save the Constitution." "The theme of my campaign has been, will be, and as governor, will always be states' rights," Rammell told reporters. "And so, you don't have to be LDS to contribute to that discussion, and I think they will contribute greatly." The LDS Church has issued a statement distancing itself from Rammell. The church also does not consider the prophecy, which is said to have come through its founder, Joseph Smith, as doctrine. Although Rammell's controversial meetings have made regional and state-wide news for several weeks, earlier this week, the controversy was picked up by various national media organizations, including the DrudgeReport. Rammell's first meeting will be on Jan. 19, at the Hampton Inn in Idaho Falls at 7 p.m. A subsequent meeting will be held in Rexburg on Jan. 21, at the Marriott Hotel at 7 p.m. The events are free and open to everyone. For more information about Rex Rammell or his campaign, visit www.voterammell.com. NATE SUNDERLAND [email protected] Read more: www.rexburgstandardjournal.com... FUSL

There you have a article from 2010 about there meetings on the white horse prophecy at the Marriott. Its right under your nose if you only look and see.

Same as any other person Christians have to provide proof of what they are saying or its bunk. If you cannot prove that there is a god then discussing it at all is silly.

I cannot even. Pagans were around before Christianity came and uprooted and raped them. The inverted cross does not represent evil. "It is believed that Peter requested this form of crucifixion as he felt he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner that Jesus died. As such, some Catholics use this cross as a symbol of humility and unworthiness in comparison to Jesus." Only recently did it come to mean anti-christian or Satan.

It is called the Cross of St. Peter.

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Again, I didn't invent the Hebrew language. This passage is ancient, and if you don't like the words of Jesus, it's not my fault that he said, "I beheld Satan falling as Baraq O Bama"

Jesus spoke Aramaic.

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Do you know anything about Aramaic and Hebrew? Did you go look the words up in Aramaic? Ancient Israel spoke a mixture language.

Here is the Biblical Hebrew (Aramaic) Aleph Bet (Alphabet):



Aramaic
בְּרַק

That looks like a BRQ and that's how they get Barak

My son's name appears at QRBN or phonetically Qof Resh Bet Nun and is the word Corban pronounced
CORE BON not CORE BAN. It's about how it sounds not the meaning.

What about Heights in ancient Aramaic / Hebrew

בָּמָה

Bet Mem Hey which is prounounced with its jots and tittles as Bamah.

I don't see the confusion here. This is the ancient Aramaic accepted alphabet.

The ancient Hebrew language (including Paleo Hebrew and Aramaic) did not have a written system of vowels. Only the consonants were written. Between the fifth and tenth centuries of the Common Era, Karaite Hebrew Scribes (called the Masorites) of the Ben Asher family developed a system of vowels to be added to the Biblical Hebrew texts. The Texts they codified became known as the Masoretic Text. These vowel “points were added to the text in a way that the consonants were not changed. The vowels are a system of dots and dashes above, below, and in between the Hebrew consonants. The doctrine of inerrancy (that the TaNaK was written by Elohim through men, and is infallible) to a Hebrew means that the consonants are inerrant, whereas the vowels are just an aid for pronunciation. It is imperative to understand that the consonants are the only factor in determining the meaning of a Hebrew word (though the context is also important). The vowels were not compelted and added to Torahs by the Masoretic scribes until c. 980 CE. Here is a table of the Masoretic vowel pointings with the Hebrew letter Bet (pronounced like a "B"): From www.adatmoadim.com...

nice images...

Bit defensive and entrenched in your beLIEfs, eh?

I simply made a statement regarding your constant reliance on Hebrew and how it MUST mean our president is the anti-christ.

If Obama is the anti-christ, he is rather disappointing at it don't you think?

I state a well defended position based on facts. Lots of nay sayers here, but I imagine if Jesus had said, "I beheld Satan falling as George Bush" it would have been all over the msm 24/7. Just insert any conservative name in there, and it would have been a free for all. The fact is, in Aramaic, in transliterating the words, the sound is the odd name "Baraq O Bamah. I find the whole fake story of Obama's daddy being a goat herder a little humorous as well given the ties to the dark one and goats.

I find it equally funny, that the same bible deniers love to point out Barack means blessed or something along those lines. It's not what the name means, it is the simple idea that Yeshua would turn to his followers and say, "I beheld Satan falling as Barack Obama." You gotta admit, it's odd, funny, and just imagine you most disliked politician substituted and finding their name in the bible. Poor Barry.

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I wasn't confused at all. he specified the difference.

Keep an open mind.

I don't agree nor disagree. I'm ok with not knowing. That is called being intelligent.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

Interesting post, but you need the diacritics/cantillation marks to really get the pronunciation. Also vav is represented by the letter o/u, but it doesn't sound much like it. Typically it comes across sounding more like a long "oo" as in "hoot."

Luke 10:18
וַיֹּאמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם רָאִיתִי אֶת־הַשָּׂטָן נָפַל כְּבָרָק מִן־הַשָּׁמָיִם׃

"bih vuh ruh kuh" or when all put together "bivruk"

Ignoring that "heights of the clouds" is not simply "heights" no more than "heights" alone is "heaven" (or shamayim).

Isaiah 14:14
אֶעֱלֶה, עַל-בָּמֳתֵי עָב; אֶדַּמֶּה, לְעֶלְיוֹן

"buh mih tah" or put together "bumitah"

So the entire thing sounds like "bivruk voo'bumitah"

Here's a good practice page for pronunciations.

www.beverlyhillschabad.com...