Alien Contacts

Originally posted by Unity_99
Also, the tests aren't really about knowing if ET is real. That is given to those who are more aware and came in with that assurance. We don't all need to learn the same lessons, it really depends one what we're working on in this world.

So that remains obscured enough that people need to their own homework and searches, if they are ready or called.

Gradually, more and more information is trickling out and the world is being readied for its next stage, with or without the NWO group, because that needs to be dealt with. And their depopulation and weather wars. They need to be arrested, people need to stand up, or stand still and not react to their soap opera and distractions and problem/reaction/solution, tactics. There is a natural consequence to enough people not waking up and shouting NO! But I was shown if NWO occurs, it won't last for long. They have alot of pissed off people under their wings, world wide, that they've bullied for a long time. And other things too, to do with technology.

I personally don't see it happening, but see things changing as more defeat their bills by challenging them and standing up and by whatever is going to go down.

But we didn't come to wake up to ET knowledge. That is what some people experience.

We came to overcome the murky/muddy areas of our diamond souls, so they can be clear and shine. ie. Greed, Anger, Retaliation, Selfishness, Apathy, Impatience, Meanness, all the Weaknesses that Souls have.
This world shows us up, what we are made of and what still needs work in us.

yes, ok so if someone takes '___' and sees beings and aliens are these real? In your opinion are these just delusional hippies?

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

That was mean....and it hurt my feelings

Sorry. I apologize. Now that I read it back, I realize it did sound a bit hurtful.

reply to post by ZetaRediculian


You did pointed out important points, you know. I hope no hard feelings.

I think the truth is a bit of both misinterpretations and real events. You don't have smoke without fire, but I concede too to your point that some "abductions" may be misinterpretations (but not all!).

Don't say you're retarded. You strike me as a very thoughfull person. As I said, you made very important points about perception. Your experience gives you strength.

IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT:

Those who takes drugs to see "aliens" are not experiencing the real thing. Drug induces halucinations. We want to hear feedbacks of the real contacts, not hallucinations.

reply to post by Druscilla


How do you know if it's CGI? And no, that's not the one I saw, the one I saw showed a young grey in a sort of cave, and guards would laugh to this thing.
I suppose your psychologists are experts in videographical analysis now?

And you overlooked the fact that these encounters are reported by the intelligence agencies.

Originally posted by swan001
IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT:

Those who takes drugs to see "aliens" are not experiencing the real thing. Drug induces halucinations. We want to hear feedbacks of the real contacts, not hallucinations.

To them it is real. Don't you see the hypocrisy? The similarities are striking. At some point I will post direct testimonies from both "real" and '___' accounts to compare.

If '___' occurs naturally in our bodies and is found to be involved with our natural functions, then it might not be much of a leap to link this with "real" contacts. To say it just isn't because people have actualy "experienced" real contact....well then so have the people that used '___'. To dismiss one as a hallucination and not the other is just wrong. The avoidance of this fundamental topic is understandable because of this.

From what I understand similarities between the “real” cases of how the aliens act and look is considered prime evidence for these to be real encounters.

Similarities between '___' accounts and “real” accounts also exist. How can we then dismiss these?

Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Druscilla

 

How do you know if it's CGI? And no, that's not the one I saw, the one I saw showed a young grey in a sort of cave, and guards would laugh to this thing.
I suppose your psychologists are experts in videographical analysis now?

And you overlooked the fact that these encounters are reported by the intelligence agencies.

The statement regarding psychology and video analysis was completely uncalled for.
Certainly you can understand that a person is capable of having expertise in a wide range of various subjects?
Besides that, the video I embedded is a KNOWN hoax. It has been proven CGI.

I keep looking for video of Alien in cave that gets laughed at, but, I cannot find.
Perhaps you could look and post the video?

Originally posted by Unity_99
They can't, they cannot prove they are here.

Are they not allowed or the physically can't?

You are really here, proving what you're made of, in a school.

I think I understand what you mean. But why do you sound like Dr. Seuss?

They don't give answers that prove things, or would lift the curtain world wide that they're here. That is not allowed. That would take everyone waking up or the world united asking for help.

There are many that would like to, I'm sure. I want them to and don't believe free will exists in this school.

I get the gist of this, I think.

However positives are not renegades.

can you elaborate on this? I am completely lost.

Originally posted by Druscilla

I keep looking for video of Alien in cave that gets laughed at, but, I cannot find.

Is that the one where it is talking or making a weird noise? I think that is a brazillian video.

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

Originally posted by Druscilla

I keep looking for video of Alien in cave that gets laughed at, but, I cannot find.

Is that the one where it is talking or making a weird noise? I think that is a brazillian video.

I have no clue. I'm just going by what swan001 said below:

Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Druscilla

 

How do you know if it's CGI? And no, that's not the one I saw, the one I saw showed a young grey in a sort of cave, and guards would laugh to this thing.
I suppose your psychologists are experts in videographical analysis now?

And you overlooked the fact that these encounters are reported by the intelligence agencies.

Maybe swan001 is talking about this one, another wonderful work of CGI:

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by starheart

 

No Doubt in my mind there is non human intelligences sharing the planet. I guess some originate from here and some from out there. Do you have contact with them?

No, unluckly... i would have alot of questions to ask them.
But so many clues link to their existences. The elite government symbol, the zionist's symbol is a snake circling the Earth. The symbol of the Draconnian/Ciakars, which is a specie of reptilian humanoid alien 18 feet tall (and which are believed to control the zionists) is a snake circling a blue sphere (according to a contact). There are many more links, but they all are on the esoteric side.

Originally posted by starheart

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by starheart

 

No Doubt in my mind there is non human intelligences sharing the planet. I guess some originate from here and some from out there. Do you have contact with them?

No, unluckly... i would have alot of questions to ask them.
But so many clues link to their existences. The elite government symbol, the zionist's symbol is a snake circling the Earth. The symbol of the Draconnian/Ciakars, which is a specie of reptilian humanoid alien 18 feet tall (and which are believed to control the zionists) is a snake circling a blue sphere (according to a contact). There are many more links, but they all are on the esoteric side.

Ill take some wild guesses and say

snake circling the Earth. >>> is the implanted reptile component in the brain. Done by design. Like a branding symbol on humna race.
The symbol of the Draconnian/Ciakars, which is a specie of reptilian humanoid alien 18 feet tall>>> reptilian race live out of sight
Elite goverment>> left as caretakers on planet job is to preserve, hide hidden knowledge, and implemented certain agendas.

reply to post by Druscilla


yes! thats the one I was talking about! I cant see the videos at work...that poor thing!

reply to post by ZetaRediculian


Yeah, that one is Brazilian.
Translation as far as I can make out is:

1st voice: Speak motherf*&#%r.

Background voice: Careful, don't hurt animal.

(CGI alien makes noises)

1st voice: I said he spoke?

Background voice: Let's go.

I've had these experiences as well... waking up under a bright light... figures staring down at me. classical grays, but one was taller. I'd wake up, and I'd have scars on my body that would heal in hours. not scratches, scars. I once pulled a small piece of metal out of me which I know are common in abductions. I was told I was being monitored because I was "different". I've seen ghosts/spirits/demons... whatever you personally call them, since I was very little. I've come to the conclusion that Having latent/recognized psychic powers, which I do, and being able to do things others can't may be a factor.

reply to post by NotAlone7


If aliens wanted to influence human genetics to give us upgrades, they would naturally do things like that. Seems to me that they are helping humanity by doing this.

Use whatever abilities you have to help people.

I have noticed scars on my body that heal very quickly, but I have no memories of being abducted and I have no special abilities.

Originally posted by swan001
IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT:

Those who takes drugs to see "aliens" are not experiencing the real thing. Drug induces halucinations. We want to hear feedbacks of the real contacts, not hallucinations.

Speak for yourself. You are obviously not aware that this is a multidimensional universe, and that using certain hallucinogens are helping the human mind to tune into other realities, just like a radio can tune into multiple frequencies. Shamans are very much aware of this, and have done it for thousands of years. The Egyptians did it all the time. The Egyptian Book of the Dead is actually an exploration of other realities, to prepare people for what is coming after this reality.

Read the book "'___' - The spirit molecule". It shows how a selection of random people under the influence of '___' are describing seeing the same kind of entities. Why? Because they are there. Humans are just starting to find out.

Originally posted by PrimitiveWorld

Speak for yourself. You are obviously not aware that this is a multidimensional universe, and that using certain hallucinogens are helping the human mind to tune into other realities, just like a radio can tune into multiple frequencies. Shamans are very much aware of this, and have done it for thousands of years. The Egyptians did it all the time. The Egyptian Book of the Dead is actually an exploration of other realities, to prepare people for what is coming after this reality.

Read the book "'___' - The spirit molecule". It shows how a selection of random people under the influence of '___' are describing seeing the same kind of entities. Why? Because they are there. Humans are just starting to find out.

edit on 7-9-2012 by PrimitiveWorld because: (no reason given)

If you can cite some legitimate, serious sources that would indicate that this is indeed a multidimensional universe (as you interpret it), and that these other realities can be experienced and interacted with through the methodologies you indicate, then, there might be something to talk about.

The whole god-molecule thing has essentially been debunked, so, that's not really admissible.
The god molecule model has not tested positive for any externalized knowledge being obtained through such methods.
The only universe one explores in these altered states is the one tattooed on the inside of one's own skull.

If external knowledge were available, then subject #1 would be able to go into one of these altered states with a message only known to the subject and researchers and deliver said message to the supposed entities interacted with, where Subject #2 in the next room can also enter an altered state and retrieve the message without any previous knowledge of the message.

Tests of these conditions are proven failures. Altered states are thus an entirely internalized Psychological phenomenon.

You may refer to the various links to research sources I've provided (several times) throughout this thread.

reply to post by Druscilla

Okay. It's great you have video experience, because I happen to be a part-time video track editor. I am able to put up the basic special effects on a video track, amongst other things. I can tell you, the two videos you generously provided contained no CGI. Do you know how hard it is to put up CGI? And the price of such programs? Do you know how that even Hollywood have trouble making a CGI that doesn't behave as if it's a constipated balloon? As a graphical artist, I am a very keen judge at what looks real body behavior and what doesn't. You have to be a good judge if you're studying artificial media addition to a movie.

Tell me, Drucilla, you seem to be, as you say, talented in many aspects. You told me one of these aspects was videography. I dare you to work and try and come up with such a good quality "hoax", as you say these videos are. You will quickly realize that to make such a hoax you will need to spend alot of time, hours of studies of body movements, and money just to make... a hoax. Does that really makes sense to you? All this time and wasted money just for a "hoax", which nobody will believe in anyway? You strike me as a bit stubborn, but nevertheless very smart and logical person, Drucilla. This CGI thing is unlogical and simply improbable.


Yes, as I said, I do believe alot of "E.T." contacts are (let's use big psychological words, ) hallucinations, signs of dementia, total imagination. I know what your links are about, but I am not naive; I know that doctors will NEVER say aliens are real because then he'll lose his credibility, his carreer, and his money. Do you seriously believe people give a damn about what paid doctors says about extraterrestial life forms in the cosmos? That's our (astrophysicist) job. The people know doctors are paid by the governments, the same government which suppresses information on tissue regeneration (which has been discovered by PhD Nobel Prize winner Robert O. Becker), cancer real causes (viral, isopropyl-activation causes of cancer has been proved by PhD and N.D. Hulda Regehr Clark) and suppresses the fact that Bill Gates once said it would be great to kill 5 out of 6 people on Earth using an AIDS-like virus? You seriously trust this government when you know it actually gave technologies and funds to communist Russia in the Cold War, and now is doing the same thing with North Korea? You really think the Government wants to help us? It wants to kill us! Their computer calculations showed that overpopulation is currently destroying Earth's ressources and will bring mankind to extinction by ressources over-consumption; the government is actually attempting to reduce population! You think it's a coincidence that AIDS, Nile virus, Cold War, global warming and "2012 apocalypse" all happened in less than 50 years?

I did consider your point, Drucilla. I concede some occurences of contacts are imagination overworking. But all over the world there are other contacts, with not only greys but also reptilians and other races, which I believe were real. Let me say it using other words: I don't recommend ignoring these contacts and arrogantly dimissing them with just a flick of a hand while sitting behind a computer while people all over the world are experiencing this. Did you ever wondered why some ufologists actually deeply consider those occurences and work to produce theories and analysis? Did you ever experienced a contact before making some of those insensible comments you made on this thread? What if you're wrong and an alien civilisation actually tries to survive on Earth by abducting and mixing DNA?

You heard the expression "Indians and Columbus". We have crappy technology. We are the indians. What if there is a Columbus out there? Can we afford the risk of being ignorant and arrogantly dismiss those events all over the World? If one of them comes to you one day, will you put your hands in front of your eyes and keep saying "No, no, aliens are not real, they are just an illusion, no, this is not happening, they are not real" while they abduct you and... you know, do the horrible things they did to some.

I do not want to shock you, Drucilla. I am sorry if I did, I want to indicate to you other possibilities. I don't like to argue with people: it makes me lose precious time. Yet, I take the time to patiently reply to you. Why do you think I do that? I got limited time, and dial-up. I could just ignore your posts, as I am not commited to this thread. Yet each times I see your posts, I take the time to answer them. I got friends to reply to, but I make them wait, just to reply to you first. Why? Because you have qualities which I value: great intelligence, devotion to find the truth, a bit of stubborness which means you have a backbone. I value these qualities in you, and, even as you're currently no friends of mine, I actually would consider you as one. I have considered your point, now please consider mine, Drucilla. Consider the possibility you may be wrong. Make preparations, just in case! What's the harm to consider other possibilities? They are possibilities, Drucilla! They have a big chance of being wrong and you being right, but also a slight chance of them being right and you wrong! What's the harm in considering other possibilities? I say, Better be safe than sorry. The US military works on that principle, and so far, it worked out for them! lol

See ya around. Got to log off now.