I Had a dream of The New World

I had one simple dream drawing of the New World, 1 world where people do not pay for services with money, being that of dollar bills, or paper/coin services. Where we all work in a simple barter system, You make something, design it, shape it, share it! simple done. We all have to accept it! its just that simple. Where you decide to work at or in whatever shape or form that is your decision & yours alone! Have more than 1 job? than thats fine as well.

Originally posted by Awakened2012
I had one simple dream drawing of the New World, 1 world where people do not pay for services with money, being that of dollar bills, or paper/coin services. Where we all work in a simple barter system, You make something, design it, shape it, share it! simple done. We all have to accept it! its just that simple. Where you decide to work at or in whatever shape or form that is your decision & yours alone! Have more than 1 job? than thats fine as well.

Parasites will crush your dreams. Lazy people with nothing to offer to anyone, what do you do with them?

reply to post by Awakened2012


Kind of like how indigenous peoples lived before the colonists arrived ?

I dream of that world again too.

reply to post by ExNihilo

we give them what they deserve/want until it runs out & they have to make the really tough choices but thats already happening in so many different ways isn't it?

reply to post by skepticconwatcher


It will slowly but surely be molded into that or at least into the lower prices

Originally posted by Awakened2012
reply to post by ExNihilo

 

we give them what they deserve/want until it runs out & they have to make the really tough choices but thats already happening in so many different ways isn't it?

With capitalism and socialism, the parasites get welfare and nothing more. With communism they get shot in the face.

reply to post by Awakened2012


did it ever occur to you that money gets things done? money has been a driving force for economies since coins where invented so long ago. even before that when we weighed out silver and gold pieces.

money allows for progress. example if there was no gain in it scientifically as well as financially the computer you posted this on would not exist.

simply put if we still did everything by barter we would be wearing animal skins and looking at steel swords as the ultimate in technological power.

all the economical problems we face are simply the issues of any system in its infancy. and that system i speak of is the global system. we didn't trade worldwide like we do now 100 years ago. sure items would go nation to nation but we didn't outsource jobs completely.

plus with money the incentive to do a good job at your work is higher. from that comes progress.

let me give you the most obvious example. weapons of war. i'm talking small arms like the rifles on the battlefield. they advance the fastest due to governments having a who's got the best weapon contest among gun makers. many companies will build guns of high quality and the one that fits the need the best gets the contract.

but the guns where improved and great pieces of art and human know how with the intent on delivering a great piece to a buyer.

its the same with computers and cell phones today. even on a personal level

Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by Awakened2012

 

Kind of like how indigenous peoples lived before the colonists arrived ?

I dream of that world again too.

The method by which native people irregardless of location is/was admirable, but times do change and, we must change with them. A time of barter and trade on that simple of a level is long gone. It will never be that way again unless we loose the internet and the ability to print periodicals.

Barter still continues to this day but it has been corrupted by major corporations making 200% proffit (or more) on a simple product. This is the type of dishonest trade we need to stop.

reply to post by BulletShogun

obviously true thats why you get Direct Deposit & don't carry all this loose change in your pockets causing all different delays & what not.

reply to post by Yeats


That is so true!

reply to post by ExNihilo


pretty much

Originally posted by Awakened2012
reply to post by Yeats

 

That is so true!

I do my best to shop local and buy from the farmers markets in my area, even if their prices are higher than the big box stores. If I shop local at least I know that my money is feeding the local economy (Colorado, USA).

The problem with eliminating money is that something else will just replace it almost instantly. Bartering is a great concept... but it really does end up leading to the need for money. Even in bartering societies, IOU's and promissory notes end up being exchanged. This is, in fact, what led to the birth of currency and banking in the first place.

Even the aboriginal Americans used shells, for example, as a form of currency.

As the bible says, it's not money - but the love of money - that is the root of all evil. Currency is not our problem - avarice and greed are.

~Heff

I had a dream that all people could live in the NOW and appreciate what we have NOW and not want to
return to a utopia that never existed. Native Americans didn't rely exclusively on barter. They had a form of money.

projects.exeter.ac.uk...

It's hard to say what will happen. I'm serious when I say this. Don't leave all your eggs in one basket! You'll wake up tomorrow and all the banks are closed and you'll be screwed. Or paper money is out. So diversity into all sorts of valuable and useful items. I'm not saying "go crazy", not at all. Just be wise that's it.

The rothchilds holdings look like this:

33% in fine art and antiques
33% in precious metals and land/property
33% in secure paper assets such as mortgages, stocks bonds etc.

They have cash too obviously but it's not all cash. Most is in other things, and there'r super rich. They know what they're doing. How to protect there wealth.

reply to post by Hefficide


Thanks for pointing that out heff. sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees.

Food and water are the only real forms of currency that matter. Without food and water you`ll be dead very quickly and all the precious metals and antiques and everything else you might own will have no value or use to you anymore.