Obama's nod to Neil Armstrong, causing a stir on the conservative blogosphere

reply to post by beezzer


And I appreciate it Beezer. Lord knows I disagree with you usually, but it is good that you are acknowledging that this act by the President is entirely appropriate.

reply to post by beezzer


Explanation: S&F!

Ok so he has given his nod to Mr Neil Armstrong.

Now on to policy ...

From the blog linked in the OP ...

Neil’s spirit of discovery lives on in all the men and women who have devoted their lives to exploring the unknown—including those who are ensuring that we reach higher and go further in space. That legacy will endure—sparked by a man who taught us the enormous power of one small step.

—President Obama on the passing of Neil Armstrong

Space policy of the Barack Obama administration [wiki]

Modification of Orion
Obama announced the modification of the Orion capsule from its original purpose as a crewed spacecraft for flights to the ISS and the Moon into an emergency escape capsule for the International Space Station, reducing American reliance on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft.

“ In addition, as part of this effort, we will build on the good work already done on the Orion crew capsule. I’ve directed Charlie Bolden to immediately begin developing a rescue vehicle using this technology, so we are not forced to rely on foreign providers if it becomes necessary to quickly bring our people home from the International Space Station. And this Orion effort will be part of the technological foundation for advanced spacecraft to be used in future deep space missions. In fact, Orion will be readied for flight right here in this room.

WRONG WAY GO BACK to this ...

TPTB can't Tax you, if you're beyond their reach, out in space! Viable ways to get off this planet. (by OmegaLogos posted on 5-1-2011 @ 08:10 AM) [ATS]

Specifically this ...

I wish to discuss the 2nd part of this threads title/subject and so here is my point of view...

1] We have chemical rocketry which will get us very inneficiently of the planet and 90%+ is throwaway at launch!

FAIL!

... Moving on!...

2] We potentially have the Roswell disc's sitting in some far off wonderland! Will we ever get to see it, access it, use it???

FAIL!

... Moving on!...

3] We have nuclear propulsion designed to be feasable in the 1950's under Project Orion!

Project Orion (nuclear propulsion)
[wiki]

Project Orion was a study of a spacecraft intended to be directly propelled by a series of explosions of atomic bombs behind the craft (Nuclear pulse propulsion). Early versions of this vehicle were proposed to have taken off from the ground with significant associated nuclear fallout; later versions were presented for use only in space.

Nuclear weapon design Clean bombs [wiki]

'Clean' nuclear weapon tests: Navajo and Zuni. [wiki]

"(E) Clean H Bombs

"On the average, about 50 percent of the power of an H-bomb results from thermonuclear-fusion reactions and the other 50 percent from fission that occurs in the A-bomb trigger and in the uranium jacket. A clean H-bomb is defined as one in which a significantly smaller proportion than 50 percent of the energy arises from fission. Because fusion does not produce any radioactive products directly, the fallout from a clean weapon is less than that from a normal or average H-bomb of the same total power. If an H-bomb were made with no uranium jacket but with a fission trigger, it would be relatively clean. Perhaps as little as 5 percent of the total explosive force might result from fission; the weapon would thus be 95 percent clean."

Personal Disclosure: Don't make me link and quote what Neil himself said about the cancellation of the Constellation project! :shk:

reply to post by OmegaLogos


All I am going to say on this is,it hardly seems fair to put our lack of US operated manned spaceflight at the feet of this administration. This was caused by a complete and total lack of and shifting space policy across three administrations and their respective Congress. This is not a partisan issue, it is a governmental one.

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Proclamation by the President: Flags To Be Flown at Half Staff: Death of Neil Armstrong

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

I actually agree Beezzer, give the Obama his staged nod and photo op because we all know how sincere it really is LOL.

That's such an ignorant statement to make...

How do you know Obama as a child never looked to the Moon and wanted to go there, or that he didn't sincerely or truly respect Neil Armstrong? Maybe he did read his books growing up.

Solely because he cut funding to NASA, doesn't mean he has no respect for what they do or have done.

I know I am not the only one that is tired of the pettiness and bickering from both sides. I admit I have gotten caught up in it as well but I am going to give it a rest from here on, I for one find it counterproductive.

I feel the president did what any president should do at a time like this and I find that any comment from either side that uses his death in any way for political gain or slander to not only be repulsive but it also dishonors a great man.

Yeah what a way to honor Neil Armstrong. Cut Nasa!

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

I actually agree Beezzer, give the Obama his staged nod and photo op because we all know how sincere it really is LOL.

That's such an ignorant statement to make...

How do you know Obama as a child never looked to the Moon and wanted to go there, or that he didn't sincerely or truly respect Neil Armstrong? Maybe he did read his books growing up.

Solely because he cut funding to NASA, doesn't mean he has no respect for what they do or have done.

Let's see, hmmm, because Obama is a meat puppet that has hidden everything, not come clean on anything, broken every campaign promise, has done potentially irreversible damage to the US and possibly the world through negative action, inaction and I'd say negligence or incompetence, has been instrumental in destroying the Constitution of the US, helped to turn the US into a corporate fascist entity... shall I go on?

The thing doesn't have a sincere bone in its body as evidenced from all of "its" actions. So it grabs a photo op, big deal, know it for what it is, trite, deceitful and usury, enacted to hopefully fulfill an attitude change towards its failures, nothing more. I'd say Obama is ignorant, full stop. I am an engineer, I simply lack tact, but I do get the job done.

Maybe it did look at space while after it had been spawned from whatever breeding tank it used. I think we all looked up at some point and wondered, that simple action does not make any of us or Obama special in any way. I have respect for Armstrong, his achievements and his memory, I have no respect for the Obama puppet, I'd like to forget it ever existed and of course I have no respect for his lack of achievements. The truth may hurt, but it can never be a lie.

So I guess I am ignorant, I shouldn't let little things like facts and reality get in the way ;-)

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by RELDDIR
Yeah what a way to honor Neil Armstrong. Cut Nasa!

Now THAT'S policy!!!

And yeah, poor form.

As much as I dislike Obama myself, the picture was a good move. Now I am cynical and my first thoughts were "What an awesome photo op" and "Hey Mr. Obama, we think it would be a wise move to take this shot"...but maybe....just maybe there was a genuine nod in there somewhere. I certainly hope it was as the picture did turn out quite nice.

really, it took the death of an astronaut to get people stirring on obama issues? as in, hes the issue? lol

He is such a narcissistic asshole. I can't wait for him to to get voted out.

Originally posted by luccadeo
He is such a narcissistic asshole. I can't wait for him to to get voted out.

Please explain why honoring one of the bravest american's ever in a small way is narcissistic?

I knew Obama by his ears!
2nd

havent seen anyone say anything about that "thing" right on the horizon. Thats not the sun... what is it? (Rhetorical question, I already know my anwser)

ya a nod from one mason to another.... the nod is for taking those secrets to the grave with him

That's just some petty BS that people want to pull out because they don't like the guy. I actually think this is fine. It's not like he's going on and making a speech at the late Mr. Armstrong's funeral. A speech that would be more about how the honorable Mr. Obama has the same great qualities that Mr. Armstrong did. That would be something to tear him apart over. But until that happens...

reply to post by beezzer


I haven't read this whole forum, so forgive me if I repeat...

This picture has nothing to do with Armstrong. It is not a tribute.
It is a 'stock' photo: "President Barack Obama stops to view the moon and Venus before boarding Marine One in Boulder, Colo., April 24, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)"
You can find it on the White House web site:
www.whitehouse.gov...
scroll through the pictures and you will find it about the third of fourth photo.

reply to post by bobs_uruncle


Yes, if you go around calling people "it" then yes thats pretty ignorant.

reply to post by canadiansenior70


And we will know Paul Ryan by his. Hey if we only show shadows you couldnt tell one from the other.