The Most Outrageous Hateful Rhetoric of All Time

reply to post by seabag


You bomb their country on a daily basis, destroy their homes and kill their children and you expect them to talk good about you? Please...

Wasn't it in WW2 that everybody hated "nazi's"? People end up hating everything about their enemy and Israel is their enemy. Country is made up of alot of jews so there is your answer.

reply to post by old_god

But one thing Israel (and the US) will never live down is USS Liberty, explain that away and I will listen but don't accuse me of hatred, I have no sympathy for anyone who tries to make a fool out of the world.

So I must explain away the USS Liberty incident before you will acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah, who happen to be funded by Iran, are guilty of heinous acts of terrorism against non combatant civilians?? That is both illogical and absurd.  

Thanks for proving my point about the blind hatred.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

 

Dude, you refuse to see the point. No one is saying it's okay for Hammas to kill innocent people!!!

What they are saying, based on sizing you up as biased, is that they will not support your rhetoric in favor of Israel, because they are just as guilty. If not more.

Get it?

No, I don’t get it.

Why do you choose one side over the other when you SAY both are wrong?

Why would ANYONE side with a group that kills women and children?

And you have the AUDACITY to claim the moral high ground??

Well you dont get it because
So far in this thread your the one who is taking sides,

reply to post by Evanzsayz

You bomb their country on a daily basis, destroy their homes and kill their children and you expect them to talk good about you? Please...

Who is "you"? I haven't bombed anybody. 

Wasn't it in WW2 that everybody hated "nazi's"? People end up hating everything about their enemy and Israel is their enemy.

So because Hamas (and Iran) consider Israel their enemy that makes it OK to blow up a bus with women and children??

Country is made up of alot of jews so there is your answer.

So was Germany....how'd that work out for the Jews?

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

Why dont you have a problem with the KKK in your own backyard?

KKK?

What’s that?

That group doesn’t even exist in America today in any real sense. If you are trying to equate the KKK’s influence in America to the influence of Hamas or Hezbollah in the middle you are really stretching it….and it shows your lack of understanding of America.

Might not be their influence but most certainly their ideology.
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reply to post by seabag

Who is "you"? I haven't bombed anybody.

Damn I almost laughed.

So because Hamas (and Iran) consider Israel their enemy that makes it OK to blow up a bus with women and children??

I never said anything was okay, you assume too much.

So was Germany....how'd that work out for the Jews?

Apparently, it worked out great for the jews. Everyone knows what the holocaust is and thinks of them as the chosen people. Praise moses or was it jesus.

Originally posted by seabag


Tell me the flaw in my logic!

edit on 26-8-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)

No flaw at all because you've not shown any logic at all. A Youtube??? Really??

We could have a Youtube battle marathon posting the horrific acts of Israeli Soldiers upon civilians and Hamas' horrific acts on Israeli citizens. Yeehaw! Ready?

One needs demons in order to deem killing righteous.

All sides are guilty; including the demonizing bloggers out there who are accomplishing nothing but keeping hate alive.

Disgusting.

reply to post by Maymunah

No flaw at all because you've not shown any logic at all. A Youtube??? Really??

Nice try… ad hominem much?

The fact that it happens to be on YouTube doesn’t negate the evil of the message.

Originally posted by primus2012
One needs demons in order to deem killing righteous.

All sides are guilty; including the demonizing bloggers out there who are accomplishing nothing but keeping hate alive.

Disgusting.

I have been guilty of this myself in the past. I'm disgusted with the old me.

reply to post by primus2012

All sides are guilty; including the demonizing bloggers out there who are accomplishing nothing but keeping hate alive.

Disgusting.

You’re correct about one thing; all sides are guilty. You must always be honest enough to identify the problem everywhere it exists in order to address it properly. If people only find a problem with the side they personally loathe (in most cases that’s Israel) then it will never be fixed.

What’s disgusting are those who keep justifying the actions of one while condemning the other; that's what keeps the hate and animosity alive.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by old_god

 

But one thing Israel (and the US) will never live down is USS Liberty, explain that away and I will listen but don't accuse me of hatred, I have no sympathy for anyone who tries to make a fool out of the world.

So I must explain away the USS Liberty incident before you will acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah, who happen to be funded by Iran, are guilty of heinous acts of terrorism against non combatant civilians?? That is both illogical and absurd.  

Thanks for proving my point about the blind hatred.

No I don't disagree, but you have to remember those groups became what they are due to the hardlined approach by the Zionist Regime within the Israeli Political arena. Hamas is the result when you push people too far and take a very blunt approach to a difficult problem.

The problem now is that you have Palestinians who are indoctrinated by the hate that has been created in the leaders (such as Hamas etc) to the point where they think it's perfectly normal to be a suicide bomber...perpetual escalation of a problem.

Equally the approach taken by Israel does not make the situation any better, it just breeds a new level of hatred.

Israel needs to recognise that its approach may have been wrong and it needs to find new ways to resolve the issues that exist on both sides otherwise this mess will carry on forever.

But Israel also has this paranoid view of the world, that everyone hates it (and the US) when in fact most of the people (like me) don't, we actually want Israel to exist along side Palestine in equality without any issues...and this is possible, but with the current approach (from both sides) it will not happen.

If Israel is this leading democracy in the middle east then it needs to prove it, this would silence it's critics once and for all.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Maymunah

 

No flaw at all because you've not shown any logic at all. A Youtube??? Really??

Nice try… ad hominem much?

The fact that it happens to be on YouTube doesn’t negate the evil of the message.

Oh do not misunderstand! There are lot's and lot's of evil messages on YouTube regarding both sides. That's exactly why I wrote we could have a YouTube battle marathon here and indeed....we could!

But you still have not really shown any logic simply by grabbing one YouTube among millions out there and using that as a means to state "The Most Outrageous Hateful Rhetoric of All Time" I'm over here in the Middle East neighbors with Israel/Palestine, so close we can wave hello back and forth and so close that I have dinner with a Palestinian family once or twice a week. So YouTube all you want and pretend there is some logic in that without "first hand witnessing".

And for the record, before I get thrown a hate or antisemitic flag over here I am very much PRO Hebrew peoples and very much not Pro the state of Israel. Understand the difference and then we can discuss "logic"

The problem as ususual is organised religion. The say love thy neighbour .. but actually knifes thy neighbour.

It's all about hate, while piously preaching about love for god and gods love for us.


Religions of the world you are all sick bunnies

Originally posted by rigel4
The problem as ususual is organised religion. The say love thy neighbour .. but actually knifes thy neighbour.

It's all about hate, while piously preaching about love for god and gods love for us.


Religions of the world you are all sick bunnies

I disagree!!

The Great Flying Spaghetti Monster has preached NO hate! All hail his noodily appendages!!

reply to post by Maymunah


So you are so much "pro" the Hebrew people - yet you deny them the right to a nation state of their own? In the land where they originated - where they face for prayer 3 times a day? (unlike Muslims, who face Mecca)...

Why do you understate the importance - and centrality - of Jerusalem and Israel to the Jewish people?

reply to post by dontreally


I'm quite sure she said she is pro the state of Israel, perhaps without hate in your eyes you could read better.

Originally posted by DaesDaemar
reply to post by dontreally

 

I'm quite sure she said she is pro the state of Israel, perhaps without hate in your eyes you could read better.

lol ouch,,, speak for your self..,,.,.

she said:

" I am very much PRO Hebrew peoples and very much not Pro the state of Israel."

reply to post by seabag


You realize every time you say, "Thanks for proving my point." It makes me laugh. After reading 8 pages of this obfuscation, your point hasn't been proved once. You dance around talking points concerning the murder of innocent women and children as if Hamas are the only ones who do it.

Who used white phosphorus in their bombings of Gaza? Israel. Who fires missiles at innocent crowds of people in Gaza and then claims Hamas uses the crowds as shields? Who has imprisoned the people of Palestine and openly oppresses them on film all over the internet? Israel. Do I need to post quotes from Ariel Sharon about what he thinks of Arabs for you to realize that the diatribes go both ways?

Do I need to post about Lawrence of Arabia when the British promised that land to Arabs if they helped the British fight the Ottoman Empire then reneged after they did? Then the Jews began Terrorizing British colony in the area and killed British Soldiers with their planted bombs? Or How about the Lavon Affair? Or how about how the Jews declared war on Germany first in 1934 through their Media outlets in Germany?

Seabag, you are biased and it is painfully obvious. Whatever is brought on Israel, they made their own bed and now they have to live with the torment that their actions caused. That os why there is no public outcry for Israel. because anyone with a half a brain knows that it is their own policies that caused it.

What about the 5 dancing Israelis? And the fact that the FBI confirmed that Israel had prior knowledge of 9/11 and refused to warn America. It was proven that Massad agents lived and followed the terrorists across the country to florida where they trained for air flight.

How about Israeli Agents getting caught impersonating Arab terrorists in Pakistan and were CAUGHT RED HANDED.

What another poster tried to say, but you glossed over it like an indoctrinated Jehovah witness, is that the freedom fighters use whatever forms they can during war. Of course they would love to have Israeli tanks or smart bombs, but they don't, their enemy does. So they resort to the only fighting they can. That doesn't give you the right to say, look how sadistic they are!!!!

When a Monk sets himself on fire to protest, do you say, look how sadistic he is? Of course they are not setting fire to other people, but it is the point to create awareness to the cause by extreme actions.

Both sides are wrong. But you on the other hand, have set forth your position very clear, even though you hide behind neutral statements.

I see right through you. You are part of the problem, not the solution.

I can predict what you'll reply with... "Does a Burning Monk set fire to other people too? Thanks for proving my point."

Sorry. But. You. Have. Been. exposed.

AAC

Originally posted by ImaFungi

Originally posted by DaesDaemar
reply to post by dontreally

 

I'm quite sure she said she is pro the state of Israel, perhaps without hate in your eyes you could read better.

lol ouch,,, speak for your self..,,.,.

she said:

" I am very much PRO Hebrew peoples and very much not Pro the state of Israel."

Hahahaha, so she did!

@dontreally - I apologise and withdraw my previous comment.