Secret Millitary Codes in our Road Sign?

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Oh yeah, the "UN troops" won't have ANY trouble at all reading those by light reflected from their taillights, in the rear view mirror, while driving a 50mph. I can't even read them in daylight in those pictures! *snort*

Not sure I believe in tacmarks, however if you research them some more, you'll find that the troops are supposed to read the backs of signs on the other side of the road, so they don't have to turn around or strain their necks...

That might be the case, but I fail to see how they're going to read the tiny little stickers they are claiming are tacmars, from the SAME side of the road in the rearview mirror, with NVGs, at 50mph, let alone the one on the OTHER side of the road. These stickers are TINY.

As I have said many times you will not find the answer to your criticisms on this board. It is clear by your insinuations ZAP that I am a liar. Since you are not willing to check it out for yourself, you have no authority or character of your own studies to make any statements concerning how these markers are deciphered, or to deny what we have tried and tested hundreds of times in 5 years to be true. Night vision is NOT needed to view these markers.

Military vehicles have rear lights of various modes. In particular there are what are called "cat-eyes" of this specific ability. They can be manually activated to illuminate any highly reflective markers on the backs of road signs. Rear-view mirrors reflect back the images "backwards" yet they are navigationally correct from the drivers seat or by a passenger/co-navigator seated facing forward while looking in the mirrors. And I reiterate again this can be done at higher speeds without ANY difficulty. Just as you can see and read a sign coming at you while driving, the same ability is achieved while viewing them in a mirror moving away from the sign. Marker arrangements and directionals are clearly viewed.

And yes, markers on the backs of signs on the other side of the road can be seen with regular headlights without mirrors. They are decipherd using BOTH methods. You may critisize this if you want, but unless you check it out for yourself you will forever be a critic and not an authority.

Carrierwave~

I HAVE checked it out, both here and with friends in other areas, and none of us have found anything to show that this might be true. You would think that the major commands here would be something they were worried about, but there is nothing to show that they are, or there are any "tacmars" to lead them to them.

What do you mean you have "checked it out"? You found markers and ran a test drive viewing them through your mirrors? Give some specifics. Any european signage around the sites? What state are you in?
I do not see anything where you can claim it is not true. What interstates are you near?

If all you did was look at a few signs and asked somebody else forget it, that's not much effort let alone telling me you can't view the markers in side-mirrors and see them clearly to decipher their positioning. What's the matter with you? Your objections are baseless.

Carrierwave~

Oh, so actually stopping at the signs and looking at the back of them is meaningless now then. Ok carrierwave, you're right, everyone who disagrees with you is completely wrong, we're all going to hell and we're going to regret it when the UN takes over.

Great job zap. Your research is so detailed and thorough. May NATO pass by your house and you remain unscathed.

Then explain to me how it's possible that they're going to COMPLETELY IGNORE the entire Pacific Command, and several other bases? Do you REALLY think that PacCom is going to just say "Oh, the UN took over the US, I guess we're done, everyone go home." Give me a break.

Play nice you two.

zap,

I don't think you know enough about the signcodes to even know what to look for. There are codes on the fronts of the signs in the arrows and configurations of arrows; all international signage, circle slash, triangular yield sign and more. Anyway, even if you did your attitude is not open enough to believe anything I say anyway. This is not a contest and it would seem someone who has just been introduced to this research, like you, aught to be a little less sarcastic; you might even learn something.

EVERY military site WE have investigated has codes for NATO.

Carrierwave~

Yeah, I started out a skeptic I admit. But I became MORE of a skeptic when I went out to look for the things you said you saw and couldn't find any of them.

So? Remain a skeptic.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
That might be the case, but I fail to see how they're going to read the tiny little stickers they are claiming are tacmars, from the SAME side of the road in the rearview mirror, with NVGs, at 50mph, let alone the one on the OTHER side of the road. These stickers are TINY.

LoL, research tacmarks some more if they interest you. I already said they are supposed to read the stickers on the opposite side of the road, so they're never looking in the rearview. Also,you are not supposed to actually read the writing on the tiny little stickers, their orientation on the signs is supposed to point to facilities...

Do you even read anything before you post?


[edit on 12-9-2005 by CyberSEAL]

Here's my problem with it.

I keep seeing "oh, well if you can't find them in your town, that just means they haven't gotten there yet".

This is a very convenient excuse, surely?

This would also mean that the following cities are - for some strange reason, considering many have definitive strategic military advantages - simply "not yet in the system".

Parts of Philadelphia (not all of Philly has been explored as of this date)
Camden, NJ
Fargo, ND
Minneapolis, MN
Bismarck, ND
Seattle and suburbs, WA

Now, if these tacmars actually exist, and exist for the reasons claimed, the lack of stickers in these places just doesn't make any sense.

So, why would these places be ignored?

It's just very, very difficult to buy the "they just didn't get there yet" reason.

Can any of the people who have seen these and know where they are just take a picture and post it?

If you will go to back to the "tacmar debunking" website, and I believe it is still there, you will find the signcodes greatest critic. "Skip" said over three years ago, "there is not one sticker on any signs that I have looked at, anywhere..." Now he has had to admit that the stickers arrived in his area within a few months of his denial.

As I have had to say MANY TIMES, there does not have to be a stickers on the back of the signs--THE FRONTS HAVE CODES ON THEM TOO. The markers were late arrivals here also.

By the way, H. Green's website had some sign "marker" photos from Minnesota on state highway 49. Michigan started the coding on the "backs of signs on state highways first.

This evening riding to Church I followed a route into Traverse City, Michigan that was coded with markers until we got to the city limits. No more markers were on the backs signs, yet the route was clearly marked with codes on the fronts of the signs with logo symbols with triangles, arrow-up configurations, and international signage. Marked with international "bike route signs" (by the way, the city has no listed "bike routes" anywhere on the Chamber of Commerce street maps for that street.) was the football stadium, two large Churches, the Court House/County Jail/city Police Station, State Police Post, a food warehouse, 3 puiblic schools, and a "Medic-one" emergency clinic.

These route set-ups are in EVERY TOWN AND CITY in Michigan and I have no doubts whatsoever in every city you listed. By the way I have friends in Washington State and the State highways into Spokane have tacmars on the D.O.T road signs.

Carrierwave~

I went to the site and it has shut down!! Where is the evidence of this thread, I see nothing!!

H. R. Green's website has been permenantly removed, all details are unknown.

Originally posted by Carrierwave1
H. R. Green's website has been permenantly removed, all details are unknown.

The UN must have taken him out!

I love this thread, it's one of the daftest and longest going.

BTW carrierwave - how do you know that any of these "signs" are anything to do with some kind of NATO(!) invasion? As NATO is a nearly defunct organisation and the great majority of it's troops are from the US are you saying that the US is going to invade itself? You'd think they would know the way.

Also you still haven't said why they can't use maps, apart from the silly suggestion that the military won't be able to use them without getting lost! So they will need to rely on stickers. On the back of roadsigns. Which they read in their rearview mirror. At night. At 50mph.

I have this mental image of the planned "invasion" happening at night, yet the citizens of the US don't really notice anything till they start going to work in the morning. Then they will drive past all these military vehicles mysteriously crashed into ditches and walls. Or ones driving round in circles in mall carparks with 2 soldiers shouting at each other:

Soldier 1: "I told you to bring a fricking map!"

Soldier 2: "You said we could use them stickers stuck on the back of road signs, so I didn't bother. Why didn't you bring the GPS.....?"

Soldier 1: "Where the hell are we anyway?"

Soldier 2:"I dunno. Texas I think. Do you think that whole NWO thing is off now?"

etc.

Brings a smile to face anyway.

Originally posted by Carrierwave1
H. R. Green's website has been permenantly removed, all details are unknown.

for personal reasons beyond our control we must bid you farewell.

Nothing sinister in that.