Satan hid the fossils to trick everyone!

Originally posted by redhorse

Originally posted by KingAtlas

"Satan hid the fossils there to trick people" is something I hear in the threads.
I used the search, and it doesn't seem like this has been directly addressed, on it's own.

Seriously?

Where the crap did you hear this? Please could you post links in these threads where people have said this so that I know who they are? I have hard core fundie friends, and none of them have ever uttered anything even close to that. I'm not saying that people don't, I just have never come across it. I hear lots of people say that they have heard that argument though; so maybe people just don't bring it up when I am in earshot, or looking at my computer screen.

I think it comes from the modern interpretation of this particular verse in the bible,

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: KJV Revelation 12:9

How exactly Satan "deceiveth the whole world" is not specified in the Bible, just that he had done so, he managed to fool everybody, and one of the ways he could accomplish this, of course, is by burying the fossils.

Certainly, if even the "scientists" are deceived, then the facts they are collecting for their "proofs" must be planted by the devil, to make them believe they know things, while they actually do not know anything.

Originally posted by Murgatroid
Science is completely under the control of the satanists who are running the show.

“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”

“There are two histories: official history, lying, and then secret history, where you find the real causes of events.” ~ Honoré de Balzac

Has Science become a Religion?

With respect to its great contributions to society, I think it is important to make a case that science is really affecting society more like a religion now than a field of study or a resource base of useful information. Many everyday people do not understand it at all and accept ALL its teachings on faith.

Unfortunately some scientists and academic professionals are not so noble and have perpetrated deliberate frauds and cover-ups of important discoveries.

Modern Scientific beliefs are based upon a leap of faith in the big bang theory. It has become a belief system based on faith and therefore another form of religion. Scientists, like priests can explain their beliefs but the everyday people accept it all on faith. Scientists and doctors are the priests of this new religion, getting angry and crying "heresy" when anyone respectfully disagrees with them.

LINK

Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses

What complete and utter rubbish.

Everyday people accept what scientists tell them on faith obviously have no understanding so take it on faith, however as an everyday person myself when reading/listening to scientific claims I want to be able to understand them before accepting them as truth.

Originally posted by ototheb85
I cant belive people still belive in GOD!!

For some God is not a belief.

For some belief is required where there is a lack of.

You do not have to believe people still believe as if people stopped believing so would your existence.

Originally posted by steve95988
reply to post by Akragon

 

There is no reason to argue this.... it is written in the bible.... a fool will have the proof before him and will still not see it.... this makes him a fool... (you)

Thats twice now you have called Akragon a fool, for what purpose, because he views the world differently than you do.

You asked him to prove to you that carbon dating is correct, how about you educate yourself instead of demanding answers from others.

When educating yourself be sure to look up the word interpretation and its meaning, so as to understand the words you read might have a different meaning when read by another.

reply to post by Murgatroid

Science is completely under the control of the satanists who are running the show.

reply to post by Murgatroid

The main difference between science and religion is that science uses these things called facts. Religion does not. Science asks a question first then seeks an answer. Religion gives you an unquestionable answer first, then comes up with all sorts of insane warps of reality to make if "fit" their illogical and irrational beliefs. Just look up the creationist Hydroplate Theory. By your logic everything you don't understand is a religion. If you don't know how to fix a car, then the mechanic must be a priest of the car God. Science is measurable and verifiable. It is peer reviewed. If it doesn't work, then back to the drawing board. Religion just smashes the drawing board. Faith:Believing in something without having any evidence of it. Science is not a leap of faith. Just because we don't know everything, it doesn't benefit humanity by saying God did it. Stop being lazy and do some research.

Originally posted by saintinwaiting
reply to post by KingAtlas

 

Have you ever researched the wealth of information that actually proves evolution is not a valid theory overall?

There is not nearly enough proof of evolution out there, way too many holes in that theory. I have seen scientists who, after much research into the topic, actually converted to faith in a living God because of all the evidence in support of creation. Here is an example:

signsofthelastdays.com...

"Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory."

Ronald R. West, PhD (paleoecology and geology) (Assistant Professor of Paleobiology at Kansas State University), "Paleoecology and uniformitarianism". Compass, vol. 45, May 1968, p. 216

Circular reasoning?

Isn't that what atheists usually accuse Christians of doing?

At this point, many Darwinists will usually trot out the same handful of incredibly weak, totally laughable examples of "transitional forms" that have been debunked and discredited time after time.

For example "Archaeopteryx" has been used as "proof" of evolution for years, mostly because scientists can't find anything better to support their case. Fortunately, it is very easy to debunk....

www.answersingenesis.org...

The cold, hard truth of the matter is that if Darwinian evolution was true there would be millions and millions and millions of very clear transitional fossils in the fossil record.

But their "theory" has a huge problem.

The fossils are simply not there.

"Lastly, looking not to any one time, but to all time, if my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking closely together all the species of the same group, must assuredly have existed. But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?"

-Charles Darwin

There are millions and millions of fossilized creatures out there. So why can't we find tons of transitional forms among all of those fossils?

Well, as one prominent evolutionist once explained, it is because they simply are not there....

"In fact, the fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from one species to another."
-Evolutionist Stephen M. Stanley, Johns Hopkins University

AronRa has a brilliant series on YouTube called "Fundamental Falsehoods of Creationism". It's 17 episodes long at about 10 minutes each. Potholer54 also has a very informative channel on YouTube that debunks all the outright lies and strawmen that deluded creationists use to push their garbage propaganda. You will find, with a little research, that micro and macro evolution is verifiable and testable. There are thousands of transitional forms on record. It has been proven time and time again that every single creationists explanation for something has been proven wrong. The Bible is a book of fables with little content based on reality. Genesis is false. So is the exodus. We have been digging in the desert for 100 years, and still NO evidence found. Jesus has almost no historical evidence of his existence outside the Bible and Moses only exists in the Bible. To put it plainly, creationists are liars.

I think Satan hid them so he could dig em up later and chew on em

Originally posted by Murgatroid
Science is completely under the control of the satanists who are running the show.

“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”

“There are two histories: official history, lying, and then secret history, where you find the real causes of events.” ~ Honoré de Balzac

Has Science become a Religion?

With respect to its great contributions to society, I think it is important to make a case that science is really affecting society more like a religion now than a field of study or a resource base of useful information. Many everyday people do not understand it at all and accept ALL its teachings on faith.

Unfortunately some scientists and academic professionals are not so noble and have perpetrated deliberate frauds and cover-ups of important discoveries.

Modern Scientific beliefs are based upon a leap of faith in the big bang theory. It has become a belief system based on faith and therefore another form of religion. Scientists, like priests can explain their beliefs but the everyday people accept it all on faith. Scientists and doctors are the priests of this new religion, getting angry and crying "heresy" when anyone respectfully disagrees with them.

LINK

Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses

Yeah? Ok, well throw your laptop in the bin and stop using what 'science' has given you hypocrite!

Go on! Back to the dark ages with you!

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

Yeah? Ok, well throw your laptop in the bin and stop using what 'science' has given you hypocrite!

Go on! Back to the dark ages with you!

Um, did you even try to understand what the poster was trying to say? It seemed to me to be easy to grasp, and further, it did not invalidate science itself, just the misuse of same. There is science, and then there is money plus science, political ideology plus science, military needs plus science, corporate profit plus science, etc, etc, all bad combinations. Learn to think before you react, or at least come up with better rejoinders.

The question would be why? I mean if dude could instantly create the bone of giant creature and bury them. Why wouldn't he create old arse human bone and bury them. Why not just put up say a stonehenge back when and write a few things on it. With the million and one things I can think of why not just do something bound to work. I mean wasn't Satan(Lusifer) The Light Bringer.. And so on Gods right hand Angel. Surely God was with him one day having tea or something and was like.. Poof look what I can do. He would have been wow can you teach me. And so on, Then Lucifer was like wow I am bored and this french maid outfit chafes. God was like fine get out.

So Lucifer was like fine but if I can't have you no one can. Accept there was no one else. Which made god ponder on this. SO he created dinosaur bones and buried them. And then waited...and waited.. God finally got it And then humans were created.. and nothing happened. Cus we were in caves and lame. So Lucifer waited some more.. For giggles every now and again he would check up. Bored out of his wits he must have created religion. The thought was get people to beleive then he can shatter that beleif and get back at God.. Yeah none of it works for me. Dude would have just used his evil powers to pretend to be a child of god then teach them false edicts.. Then he went to another place and did the same. But he changed a few things and a new religion was created. He did this for a few dozen years and then he told each that they were the only true religion everyone else was of satan. So they started killing each other in Gods name and Lucifer giggled but the bone he left there because well they were useless in the end...

This was just all made up by me
None or all could be true I have no Idea. I am just saying why go to the trouble of buried bone when you could just create religion in the first place...
Therian

If you believe in God, then Satan (or whatever spirits you believe in) planting fossils shouldn't be that big of a stretch, after all you are dealing with powerful eternal beings. Or if you believe we are living in a Matrix, fake fossils would be easily programmable. I'm not saying fossils are planted, just that the possibility isn't that outrageous when you compare it with the beliefs of many people.

Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

Yeah? Ok, well throw your laptop in the bin and stop using what 'science' has given you hypocrite!

Go on! Back to the dark ages with you!

Um, did you even try to understand what the poster was trying to say? It seemed to me to be easy to grasp, and further, it did not invalidate science itself, just the misuse of same. There is science, and then there is money plus science, political ideology plus science, military needs plus science, corporate profit plus science, etc, etc, all bad combinations. Learn to think before you react, or at least come up with better rejoinders.

Really? And where exactly do 'satanists' come into play?

Science is just another term for understanding.

"money plus science, political ideology plus science, military needs plus science, corporate profit plus science"....BS rhetoric, nothing else.

Learn to think period.

Well, you seem not to understand me, either, so I will ignore you in future. Work on those manners and that attitude.

Originally posted by KingAtlas

"Satan hid the fossils there to trick people" is something I hear in the threads.
I used the search, and it doesn't seem like this has been directly addressed, on it's own.


****I am not a religious person trying to further religious beliefs, I am just curious about this subject.

Do a simple google search for diansours in the bible. They're mentioned in the old testament. The flood wipped them out. Leaving them as fossels and leaving only man and the type of animals that went onto the arch.

reply to post by KingAtlas

"Satan hid the fossils there to trick people" is something I hear in the threads. I used the search, and it doesn't seem like this has been directly addressed, on it's own.

You're saying you hear voices while you read threads on ATS ? Why would he have to that ? He knew upfront humans were to stupid to figure anything out for themselves anyway.

Originally posted by r2d246

Originally posted by KingAtlas

"Satan hid the fossils there to trick people" is something I hear in the threads.
I used the search, and it doesn't seem like this has been directly addressed, on it's own.


****I am not a religious person trying to further religious beliefs, I am just curious about this subject.

Do a simple google search for diansours in the bible. They're mentioned in the old testament. The flood wipped them out. Leaving them as fossels and leaving only man and the type of animals that went onto the arch.

I hope you're joking

We know for a FACT there was no global flood...

reply to post by MrXYZ

We know for a FACT there was no global flood...

No you don't X. That's just BS.

Originally posted by r2d246

Originally posted by KingAtlas

"Satan hid the fossils there to trick people" is something I hear in the threads.
I used the search, and it doesn't seem like this has been directly addressed, on it's own.


****I am not a religious person trying to further religious beliefs, I am just curious about this subject.

Do a simple google search for diansours in the bible. They're mentioned in the old testament. The flood wipped them out. Leaving them as fossels and leaving only man and the type of animals that went onto the arch.

Do a simple google search for fossilization and you'll realize how utterly ridiculous it is to claim that a 150 day flood could cause rapid setting fossilization on that level inside of hundred million year old rocks. If the great flood caused all that, there would be a big mixture of species in the same rock layer, rather than just dinosaurs. Thus far the dated rocks are consistent with the fossils found within EVERY TIME. There was no global flood. There were a bunch of local floods caused by glacial melting at the end of the last ice age and a possible impact event around 7-8000 BC. Give me an example of any flood anywhere that ever caused fossilization so quickly. Good luck.

Originally posted by glen200376
You ask if god has no power to stop Satan,if we have free will wouldn't satan have free will too?
Maybe we could ask him I saw him posting a thirty odd page thread here over the last few days!

i am not sure that we have free will at all, the debate of free will has been going on for a long time now