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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: one4all
RA has been dead for almost 3 years, unless you have a working Ouija board he isn't going to reply.
originally posted by: Scrutinizing
Having seen everything related to the JFK assassination over the years, you want to know something most of you don't want to hear? There is a definitive documentary on the assassination, narrated by the late Peter Jennings, that actually proves Oswald was a lone gunman, by indisputable computer modeling and other tests, which confirm the bullet paths, that one person could, indeed, fire all the shots. This documentary was completely scientific and with lucid forensics. Now, nobody can say who may have put Oswald up to it, influenced him, some theories on this that can never be verified, but he was, bottom line, a head case and a serious, narcissistic loser, albeit a real marksman, unfortunately, seeking notoriety. (I do think somebody in the mafia, for instance, may have pimped Oswald, but in the form of manipulating the mind of a deranged idiot.) As with most all conspiracies, the plain truth is too boring for people who refuse skeptical, critical thinking-out their favorite conspiracy myths. Fact is, the lone gunman of the Warren Commission is the ONLY feasible explanation the forensics will support. The rest? Good material for a Hollywood movie, like some Oliver Stone fiction.
originally posted by: Rising Against
The Murder of a Police Officer
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dm50368b33.jpg[/atsimg](J.D. Tippit)
The assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22nd, 1963, wasn’t the only assassination to occur that day. Less than an hour after the slaying of Kennedy in fact, the person many believe to have shot the President 3 times with a Mannlicher Carcano Rifle from the Texas school book depository building 6th floor had also seemed to escape from the building without capture, travel by bus and then taxi to Oak Cliff, a Dallas suburb, visit his rooming house where he’s said to have picked up a weapon and quick change of clothing, travel on foot once more before being stopped by a police officer driving Police car no.10 by the name of J. D. Tippet, before, for seemingly no apparent reason, shooting him multiple times in the chest, before once again managing to escape without immediate capture running to a nearby theater hoping to “blend in with the crowd” and simply watch a movie..
The assassination of Officer Tippit, supposedly at the hands of Lee Harvey Oswald, is a crucial part of the overall case as some claim Oswald couldn’t have made the journey in time to shoot Tippet from his rooming house in the first place, while others claim the fact that he murdered him is nothing short of absolute proof of his previous attack on the President and his willingness to escape, and some others claim that the description of the assassin of this police officer didn’t even remotely fit the description of Oswald or stranger yet, there was even a lone gunman at all, instead 2 of them both travelling in opposite directions following the slaying. This among many other theories presented by researchers of the case.
Immediately following the assassination of John F. Kennedy at approximately 12:30 however, a police officer by the name of Marrion Baker immediately ran into the building as mentioned in the previous page, doing so after seeing birds fly off the roof of the building he claimed as well as distinctively hearing the sound of gunfire originate from high up above him. Being led up the building by Roy S. Truly, as the elevators were not working and Baker didn’t know the building well, coincidentally Oswald’s boss at the time, they both ran into him situated on the second floor lunchroom looking relaxed and merely drinking a coke, this less than 2 minutes after the assassination had taken place where Oswald was said to have fired from the 6th floor. For whatever reason he pointed his gun at Oswald, questioned him briefly and after Truly confirmed he was an employee of his, he was allowed to go on his way. Baker then continued up the building in search of a potential shooter.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pz50368b73.jpg[/atsimg](Officer Baker)
Oswald then immediately left the Texas School Book Depository, most probably heading East on Elm and traveling to a local bus stop. According to the ticket found on Oswald after his arrest later that day, a bus transfer given by driver Cecil J. McWatters marked for the Lakewood-Marsalis route was found in his shirt pocket and was dated for the 22nd of November. It was also determined that he boarded this bus at approximately 12:36 pm that day, 6 minutes after the slaying. As traffic was high and the bus was moving slowly, he only stayed on it for a period of 4 or so minutes, exiting it at around the Field street area.
Oswald then seemed to carry on walking in the direction the bus was travelling in before hailing a cab driven by William Whaley on Lamar Street. He described the events which took place to the Warren Commission as follows.
(Source)
The man was dressed in faded blue color khaki work clothes, a brown shirt, and some kind of work jacket that almost matched his pants. The man asked, “May I have the cab?”, and got into the front seat. And about that time an old lady, I think she was an old lady, I don’t remember nothing but her sticking her head down past him in the door and said, “Driver, will you call me a cab down here?”
She had seen him get this cab and she wanted one, too, and he opened the door a little bit like he was going to get out and he said, “I will let you have this one,” and she says, “No, the driver can call me one.”
… I asked him where he wanted to go. And he said, “500 North Beckley.”
Well, I started up, I started to that address, and the police cars, the sirens was going, running crisscrossing everywhere, just a big uproar in that end of town and I said, “What the hell. I wonder what the hell is the uproar?”
And he never said anything. So I figured he was one of these people that don’t like to talk so I never said any more to him. But when I got pretty close to 500 block at Neches and North Beckley which is the 500 block, he said, “This will do fine,” and I pulled over to the curb right there. He gave me a dollar bill, the trip was 95 cents. He gave me a dollar bill and didn’t say anything, just got out and closed the door and walked around the front of the cab over to the other side of the street [east side of the street]. Of course, the traffic was moving through there and I put it in gear and moved on, that is the last I saw of him.
Upon further review, Whaley confirmed for the commission that he had dropped Oswald off at the 700 block of North Beckley, oddly around a 5 minute walk from his rooming house, this his intended destination of 500 North Beckley. He was also dropped off at approximately 12:54pm CST according to Whaley and after walking the distance to his rooming house would’ve arrived there at approximately 12:59 – 1:00pm, this being the time Earlene Roberts, his housekeeper, also confirms was the time he walked through the front door. Oswald had also conveniently walked in at around the same time she had just turned on the news after a friend called to inform her of the shooting of Kennedy which had taken place a short while before. She briefly spoke to Oswald, “Oh, you are in a hurry” for which she received no reply from him.
Strangely, she also reports that an unknown to her police car turned up outside her house a short while after Oswald had walked in; It beeped It’s horn twice and then proceeded to drive away at speed. Shortly after this incident, one which occurred not long after Oswald arrived in the first place, he came out of his room and then left the house as quickly as he had arrived this time wearing a jacket he had picked up. He was then seen by Earlene with-in a minute or so later standing near the bus stop in front of the house on the east side of Beckley.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/zc50368ba8.jpg[/atsimg](The location of Oswalds rooming house (north marker) and Tippit’s murder scene (south marker)
A short while after the assassination of John F. Kennedy had taken place, at approximately 12:44 pm, the radio dispatcher on channel 1 ordered all downtown patrol squads to report to Elm and Houston street, the site of the JFK assassination. Around a minute later however the dispatcher ordered No. 78, which was the area Tippit patrolled in the Oak Cliff region of Dallas, to “move into central Oak Cliff area,” something Tippit did so calling in his position at Lancaster and Eighth via his radio at 12:54pm.
Just prior to calling his position a description of a shooter also came over the radio at 12:45 pm, again at 12:48 pm, and again at 12:55 pm, the suspect they were looking for was a “white male, approximately 30, slender build, height 5 foot 10 inches, weight 165 pounds,” a description fitting someone like Oswald.
At approximately 1:15pm, a short while after Oswald left his rooming house in North Beckley, Tippit was travelling east on 10th Street, passed the intersection of 10th and Patton about eight blocks from where he had reported at 12:54 pm, where he stopped a man fitting the previous description given out on the radio. According to witnesses they exchanged words for a short while before Tippit, who was sitting in his car and talking through the right front or vent window, then got out and began to walk towards the man before, for no apparent reason at the time, he let off several shots, striking Tippit with 4 of them. The gunman then left the scene at pace heading in the direction of Patton Avenue, ejecting the empty cartridge cases and throwing them into a nearby bush.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/or50368bfd.jpg[/atsimg](Scene of the murder)
Domingo Benavides, one of the witnesses to the shooting, ran to the scene after the shooter had made his escape and almost immediately used Tippit’s police radio to report the shooting which had taken place, the time of which was at exactly 1:16pm according to the police records. He then went to look for the empty shells which he saw being thrown into the bushes, finding them and handing them over to Patrolman J. M. Poe who arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting.
Some witnesses claim that the man involved in the shooting came from the direction of East, others say he came from the completely opposite direction, and others like Acquilla Clemons and Frank Wright for example claim that there was even 2 men involved in the shooting, both running in opposite directions, one even getting into a nearby car. It seems that few witnesses were actually ever able to conclusively identify Oswald as the sole killer.
Tippit, according to the majority of witnesses, was dead before any such help could arrive and attempt to save his life and Oswald, who was never identified conclusively as the killer, was not at the scene at the time, he was elsewhere. He was seen later seen and arrested after “acting suspiciously” in a Texas theater on West Jefferson Boulevard.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/xb50368c33.jpg[/atsimg](Tippit’s wife at his funeral)
On the 25th of November, 1963, an hour after the funeral of John F. Kennedy, the funeral for the slain police officer occurred and was attended by hundreds of fellow officers as well as many civilians. It was held at the Beckley Hills Baptist Church. Tippit, escorted by around 15 police motorcycles, was rested on sloping grounds of Laurel Land Memorial Park, his casket draped in roses by family, friends and colleagues of his.