Darth Vader: "I'm your father" Luke: "No, I'm an actor named Mark Hamill"

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quite....in Buddhism it's called 'maya' and in Hinduism it's called the 'dance of Shiva'.
tibetan madhyamikan Buddhists have this concept covered with "Two Truths"- the Ultimate (nothing exists/maya/dancing Shiva) and the Conventional (this table, this person, this idea exists....in a state dependent upon evrything else, all of which is in a state of constant change....creating and destroying)
Buddhism is the "middle way" between the two truths since- obviously- they are duality. AKA- the razor's edge.

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If I have understood what you're saying correctly, then it means that there are no moral implications for any activity. Murder, rape, thievery, abuse, lying, are no more or less acceptable than honesty, righteousness, courage, loyalty, and dependability.

My question then is: what is your personal moral compass in all of this, which determines what you do, day-to-day, during the theater play?

~ Scribe

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You know the saying, before enlightenment chop wood carry water. After, chop wood carry water. I was a good person before becoming enlightened. Before 'waking up'. And, I'm a good person after. I still have my compass. The difference is, I'm now a good person because I want to be. I like it. Not because of any cosmic implications or threats from above. I don't need a 'thou shalt' system anymore.

'He once loved "thou shalt" as most sacred: now he must find illusion and caprice even in the most sacred, that freedom from his love may become his prey: the lion is needed for such prey.' -Nietzsche

Originally posted by avatar01
One of life's most stunning realizations.

The universe does revolve around you, and always has.

If only more people would realize this...
Most people will overlook this comment with ease.

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Yeah. But I think that's ok. God wants to play 'lets pretend the universe doesn't revolve around me'. For that game what better playground than this age?

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Someone please correct me if I am wrong or even slightly off here - but I believe the concept here in overly simplistic terms is that we are all "God". All of us are parts of the whole. We are each here to go through life (regardless of how long or short our life is) and have experiences. Whether good, bad, boring, exciting, starving, gluttonous, whatever. The point is the experience. The belief is that there's not really "good" nor "bad", just experiences to bring back to the source. I would imagine you could compare it to looking back at your own life's experiences and memories. I, for example, have many memories of visiting different places, states, countries, both coasts of America, mountains, etc. So that could be one set of experiences for my own whole. I have experienced true love (and still am), I've been with people just for sex, I've had my heart broken, lost friends and loved ones etc. - the emotional extremes with emotional highs and lows as well as the physical extremes of absolute physical pleasures as well as intense physical pain. I have been surrounded by a loving family but I have also spent a Christmas Day one year in the army in a bar in Korea where I experienced a homesickness like never before. All of these are singular experiences that make up the "whole" of my life so far.

At some point we will all die and we don't go to Heaven or Hell or whatever...we return to the whole or the oneness or take our place again as being a part of the one God or whatever human words you want to use to explain it. The "point" of our lives is not good or evil, just the experience. So the "one" that we are all a part of can have an almost infinite amount of experience. And when we return to the one-ness, we will all have the same shared experiences.

And I'm sorry if my attempt to make this simple actually failed.

Also - I'm not saying I believe in this, but I'm not saying I don't. I certainly believe it is a possible truth, though, on my lifelong quest for the truth.

Originally posted by tvtexan
Where does Jar-Jar fit into all of this?

Can someone please give me a Philosophy that includes Jar-Jar!?
I really like that guy!

Hmmm... yousa point is well seen.

Better dead here than deader in the Core. Ye gods, whatta meesa sayin'?