Brandon Raub's Mother Claims She Spoke To Other Mothers And More Are Being Detained!

Sometimes I find myself wondering WHO IN THE WORLD is going to sleep through all of this.
HOW in the world do TPTB think they're going to pull off a NWO?

It would mean that there would have to be a vast majority of people willing to just let their rights,liberties,and freedoms be taken from them in exchange for safety and security.

It would mean that there would have to be a vast majority of people who live their lives in fear.

Who in the world is going to accept this???

Then.......


I read through threads like this and am reminded that not only are people going to accept it,
They'll DEMAND it.

Good job you ________ cowards. ( you know who you are now don't you?)
Looks like you just might get your way.

reply to post by Screwed


Yep.....

your name say it all...

Originally posted by knoledgeispower

sure he was deemed a "threat" but when TPTB can make you look threatening when you aren't a threat then yes people should be a bit worried.
What you might find not a threat they might. Just the fact that you post on ATS about them and how you do not support them could be enough to consider you a "threat".

But, what's in it for them, to make non-threatening people look threatening?

I'd think there are enough real threatening people out there that they could focus their energies on, rather than waste time with non--threatening people and trying to frame them to look like threats.

Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

This is America, you can't arrest people because they might commit a crime....and where is the proof he is crazy?

This is also America, where in some neighborhoods, the mere sight of you could be considered offensive to others.

Or, if you wear the wrong colors, and walk through some areas, you could get shot.

Welcome to America. All sorts of people live here. Whatever you do, or think, is guaranteed to be offensive or threatening to some one else somewhere in the nation.

Well, not to throw any cold water on the idea of the over-reaching government cause I dislike the many things it does wrong and illegal laws it's passing, but there are now two videos on youtube albeit hard to watch for me by their delivery style, the information is what I care about.

The lawyer representing Mr. Raub is apparently real and well known in the alt community. However, particularly in the second video the guy raises some obvious issues with the arrest or detaining of Mr. Raub. If you were a police detective or whatever those plain clothes guys were, would you go to a suspected terrorist who is a marine vet and not wear a bullet proof vest? None of the plain clothes guys had on bp vests.

If you were getting license plates would you get some fuzzy look or get a much better capture? I don't know if this was a staged scene, but some things are not adding up. Why would the gov't do this? To perpetuate the fears that NDAA arrests are happening, to get some screwball to go out and start something and hope riots / revolution energy gets started to justify massive crack downs and make cops feel justified in disarming those "crazy" vets and patriots.

Hoax / False Flag vs True Patriot?

Originally posted by Screwed
Sometimes I find myself wondering WHO IN THE WORLD is going to sleep through all of this.
HOW in the world do TPTB think they're going to pull off a NWO?

It would mean that there would have to be a vast majority of people willing to just let their rights,liberties,and freedoms be taken from them in exchange for security.

It would mean that there would have to be a vast majority of people who live their lives in fear.

Who in the world is going to accept this???

Then.......


I read through threads like this and am reminded that not only are people going to accept it,
They'll DEMAND it.

Good job you ________ cowards. ( you know who you are now don't you?)
Looks like you just might get your way.

edit on 23-8-2012 by Screwed because: (no reason given)

If you ever had or have a dog you know, it's their standard behavior to test their owners from time to time to see who is in charge. TPTB tried and lost this time. But don't let the guard fall because they will try again and again. Their next move is to implode the world economy, so be prepared...

This situation was great to call the public attention to what the government is up to as the majority loves Facebook but had no clue they were being watched. My guess is that a lot of people were wakened by this.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Like i said in another Brandon Raub thread, all they have to do is label you a "religious crazy" and they can violate your rights with impunity. Doesn't mean you are a religious crazy, but that's all it takes to make you look like one is the label and then use the media to blow sh** out of proportion. Using religion as an excuse to remove your second amendment rights (and all the others with it) is how it starts, just like Nazi Germany. We're seeing the same signs in the U.S. that were seen in Germany before Hitler. As that old saying goes "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it".

reply to post by Screwed

Sometimes I find myself wondering WHO IN THE WORLD is going to sleep through all of this.
HOW in the world do TPTB think they're going to pull off a NWO?

Oh that's going to be easy, we're already heading towards a One World Order, U.N. paving the way. How is it easily done? Cashless society, all your info is hooked into the system and you get a biometric chip imbedded in your forehead or right hand that controls access to your accounts, social security number, driver's license number and photo I.D., your home address, your phone numbers, your medical history and a gps tracker where they can find you anywhere on the planet if they want you, your gun registrations and permits etc, credit and debit cards were a part of the developmental process, now we have driver's licences that have your thumbprint on it and the government(s) have developed facial recognition programs (like facebook is about to employ). This stuff is already coming, probably only a couple years away if that. Some european nations are already field testing this stuff. When they want your guns, they will know right where to go to find them.

In essence you're giving up having God as your provider and protector, to having the government being your provider and protector, trading believing and worshipping God and His ways for believing and worshipping Man and his ways. Now you beginning to see what the mark of the Beast is? It's the number of man, 666 is carbon, the number of a man 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons. Once they have control of you, they can control whatever you do.

Originally posted by GreatOwl

Originally posted by knoledgeispower

sure he was deemed a "threat" but when TPTB can make you look threatening when you aren't a threat then yes people should be a bit worried.
What you might find not a threat they might. Just the fact that you post on ATS about them and how you do not support them could be enough to consider you a "threat".

But, what's in it for them, to make non-threatening people look threatening?

I'd think there are enough real threatening people out there that they could focus their energies on, rather than waste time with non--threatening people and trying to frame them to look like threats.

anyone who does not like their agenda is a possible threat. Page 1 would be actual threats and Page 2 would be possible threats. Again this is just something we were talking about and could be a possibility but may not be.

lonewolf19792000

Now you beginning to see what the mark of the Beast is? It's the number of man, 666 is carbon, the number of a man 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons.

I heard a possibility that the mark of the Beast is the cell phone.

I've thought about conspiracy scenarios where the government forcibly attaches microchips to people or plants them inside of them. But as I watched the use of a cellphone explode, I revised my thinking. Cellphones used to be a tool. Now, they are a way of life for many many people, and people without them look like fools to others.

If the government were behind the conspiracy to track and mark people, THIS would be the way to do it. To be so subtle that no one would realize it. Forcing people would result in some form of retailation, however small and would creat a resistance. But offer it disguised as a phone full of features that you just HAVE to buy, and few will notice. There is no telling who has access to your phone when it's on, and so many come equipped with a GPS system that is defaulted to ON. And it's promoted like a good thing.

I brought a GPS navigator with me on a trip last year, and the whole time, I was thinking that it would be so easy for someone to track me. I'm hooked into the sattellites to get coordinates. And the damn things are so accurate it could register my speed to within a mile or 2 of my actual speed. Something that is a useful tool could be used against me. Along with the traffic light cameras that have popped up all over my city. It doesn't cut down on crime...anyway

Same with the "check cards" type things. I'm not sure what I believe about the bible and revelation. But if you do go with the idea of the mark of the beast being necessary for commerce, maybe the plastic cards are the beginning of the road.

People get used to using credit cards and check cards, then the government offers some new form of them. After a while, they pass legislation that you HAVE to use this new form to engage in commerce - cash is no longer printed. And so many will already have it and be using it only a few will be without it. The majority didn't have it forced; on them - they chose it.

by madhatter3113 cellphones mark of the beast

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I said in another post that this is definitely all about NDAA and not gun laws.

First we gave up certain liberties because the gov't told us that as long as we weren't brown or Muslim, we didn't have to worry.

Now they are telling us that as long as we aren't a whacko conspiracy theorist you have nothing to worry about.

Next, I guarantee they will find a way to target the left leaning citizens. Being that I fit into the whacko conspiracy theorist and liberal categories, that's a double whammy for me.

It's pretty dang easy to see what is going on here, if my conjecture is correct....

"First they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I said nothing..."

This is exactly what is happening here, IMO...we are all frogs in boiling water. They have learned that they need to take baby steps in order to get people to warm up to losing their rights and willing to turn over more power to the government.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by tracehd1

 

When he goes and hurts someone now, anyone at any time for the rest of his life, you can be part of the blame.

This guy obviously needs psychiatric supervision, healthy people don't talk about chopping heads off.

Lyrics from a song by a Canadian Rap Group



You have any proof that he owns any weapons or an axe?

When implies that an action is predetermined. And IF he were to hurt anyone, why would someone on the other side of the country be to blame? Don't you believe in personal responsibility?

To be honest it does look like this was a reaction from a zealous mental health intervention person.

The authorities went to question Raub because they received lots of complaints about threats. They were doing their duty. If anything had happened they would be liable for not taking action.

When they went to QUESTION Raub, they were concerned about delusions and potential mental instability that could have resulted in a breach of the peace or worse.

Then because of their concerns and possible zealousness Raub was detained in an institution for a mental health, assessment. In the UK it would of been called 'sectioning'. It wasn't arrest and it wasn't just based on facebook rants, it was based on things said that weren't reported when authorities went to talk to Raub.

They maybe over reacted but they were doing their duty and would have been sent to the wall if the guy did anything. They made a decision, which they probably believed was for the best.

Spoken like a mom. Shaming the ones that dared touch a hair on her son's head. Going off into bravery stories, that even if her son were around, he would say "aw mom" in embarrassment.

Speaking of hair on his head, did you notice that? Is it just me or is he a spitting image of that guy from Aurora Colorado, minus the hair dye? I wanted to do a double take and add a conspiracy to the list that he was a double.

Maybe they are arresting guys with curly hair this week. Wait, what did I just say?

That is a good thing we all should have, a copy of the US Constitution on our person at all time. I have mine. But did you see that the local, or city, police were being used to get the man in cuffs, not the federal ones.

What did he do that his mom hasn't detected yet? And the sister is so under pressure with the camera. She wins this sibling rivalry round...

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Does all this mean you are scared of what you are insinuating ? Surely you'd be a bit a more positive about things if you really beleived the God stuff yourself ? You're saying prophecy is coming true, how come you not happy and dancing about it too then ? LOL at the short ending in the revelation , in which you speak, because Our 'God' is The Truth

Originally posted by nunya13

First we gave up certain liberties because the gov't told us that as long as we weren't brown or Muslim, we didn't have to worry....

"First they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I said nothing..."

The amusing thing here is that all the changes that seem to be in your favor and against that "other" people, in the end turn out to be against your own benefit.

Take the fences America is putting up to stop the Mexicans from entering illegally, well, if you didn't notice, those fences work both ways. It used to be that Americans could just "leave" the country whenever they wanted. Now those fences stop illegal exits too. So you'll need "government permission" soon, in order to leave, just like Cuba has restrictions on its citizens wishing to travel abroad, and similar to the old Soviet Union. It might seem ridiculous to us today, but as the economy begins to collapse, things get tough, and those able Americans try to move their funds and selves out of the US for greener pasteurs abroad they'll find that they can't move either without permision. There are countries out there that require you to get an "exit visa" to leave, and don't grant that exit visa if their citizen owes taxes or has unpaid debts etc..so, coming soon to America, the infamous "exit visa" to protect the wealth of the nation...etc...That's how these things happen, people allow the changes to sneek up on them, because they don't see any immediate negative impact on their lives, but one should always "look ahead" and say "what if ?"

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Brandon Raub's attorney says " Psychiatrist Threatened to ‘Brainwash’ My Client With Meds" Source

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Screwed

 

Sometimes I find myself wondering WHO IN THE WORLD is going to sleep through all of this.
HOW in the world do TPTB think they're going to pull off a NWO?

Oh that's going to be easy, we're already heading towards a One World Order, U.N. paving the way. How is it easily done? Cashless society, all your info is hooked into the system and you get a biometric chip imbedded in your forehead or right hand that controls access to your accounts, social security number, driver's license number and photo I.D., your home address, your phone numbers, your medical history and a gps tracker where they can find you anywhere on the planet if they want you, your gun registrations and permits etc, credit and debit cards were a part of the developmental process, now we have driver's licences that have your thumbprint on it and the government(s) have developed facial recognition programs (like facebook is about to employ). This stuff is already coming, probably only a couple years away if that. Some european nations are already field testing this stuff. When they want your guns, they will know right where to go to find them.

In essence you're giving up having God as your provider and protector, to having the government being your provider and protector, trading believing and worshipping God and His ways for believing and worshipping Man and his ways. Now you beginning to see what the mark of the Beast is? It's the number of man, 666 is carbon, the number of a man 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons. Once they have control of you, they can control whatever you do.

edit on 23-8-2012 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)

Got a riddle for you.

The one with all the power has all the fear.

The one with no power has no fear.

I see the dust rising more and more, so that I imagined that it was something sent from God. But the sun now shone out a little, and, lo! I see a mighty beast like a whale, and out of its mouth fiery locusts proceeded. But the size of that beast was about a hundred feet, and it had a head like an urn. I began to weep, and to call on the Lord to rescue me from it. Then I remembered the word which I had heard, "Doubt not, O Hermas." Clothed, therefore, my brethren, with faith in the Lord? and remembering the great things which He had taught me, I boldly faced the beast. Now that beast came on with such noise and force, that it could itself have destroyed a city. I came near it, and the monstrous beast stretched itself out on the ground, and showed nothing but its tongue, and did not stir at all until I had passed by it. Now the beast had four colours on its head-black, then fiery and bloody, then golden, and lastly white.

My question is this: Why does the one with all the power have all the fear? Then answer is in 'The Shepherd of Hermas.' Try to answer it before you look.

Once you find the answer, then go find the "tendon on a corpse" in the same book. Read the significance.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


People don't even need to read it to know the answer.

They have all the fear because they are the ones who have something to lose.

Originally posted by Resurected
Same story people hype every time one of these shootings happens.. 1) they are going to take all your guns!! 2) They are going to lock you in the FEMA camps! Guess what, it wasnt true in the 90s, its not true today.

You're right...but you know what else wasn't true in the 90s? That there were laws passed that said the government can come into anyone's house and tap anyone's phone and monitor anyone's communication or bank transactions without a warrant.

You know what IS true today?

That they can listen in on any phone call they want in the entire world without a reason for doing so. That they can amass mounds of data about your internet and spending habits and keep the data for years to come to use it against you when they want. That they can set up "free speech zones" as if the Constitutution says that we only have freedom of speech in certain areas to be determined by the government. That people who freely discuss their rights as citizens and accuse the government of violating those rights are under suspicion of terrorism. That if you have a few guns and stock up food for a "just in case" scenario, you are under suspicion of terrorism. That if you use certain words in a Facebook chat, the FBI will start to monitor it. That if a swat team gets an address wrong and kills the home owner or a dog trying to defend his home, there is no recourse for it. That if you DARE question an officer about their conduct you can be electrocuted even while handcuffed.

But, I guess as long as we aren't in Fema camps, who are we to complain?