Who is the most genuine person in the field of UFOs

Cheers keep em coming guys/girls, have heard of a few of these already but for the most I haven't.

I like Jaques Vallee

Nick Pope

and GEORGE KNAPP

along with Ruben Uriarte (MUFON)

have all been on ATS Live and gave AMAZING interviews (you can listen to them on ATS Live Archive.

ETA (for your listening enjoyment)....

ATS LIVE RADIO: Stanton Friedman

Here's the usual reference on this question, in need of updating but still probably the best on the Web:

UFO Watchdog

Other than that, I vote for myself.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Nick Pope

and GEORGE KNAPP

along with Ruben Uriarte (MUFON)

have all been on ATS Live and gave AMAZING interviews (you can listen to them on ATS Live Archive.

ETA (for your listening enjoyment)....

ATS LIVE RADIO: Stanton Friedman

edit on August 18th 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

Have you read Stanton Friedmans book Crash at Corona ?

I think it's in the top 2 of books.

Alien Contact by Timothy Good is #1.

J. Allen Hynek

Unfortunately, he's dead.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by CallYourBluff

 

To my mind Stanton Friedman is one of the least credible researchers. Ive seen him in videos trying to say what were clearly Chinese lanterns were UFO's.

He seems to go between what seems like very objective investigations to making all sorts of wild claims and assumptions when he need a pay cheque. I think he is very clever in the way he puts himself across as being credible while at the same time tends to make up all sorts of wild claims when he needs to.

Lets face it the guy make a living from trying to tell us UFO's are visiting aliens.

edit on 18-8-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Nevermind, I new it would be a waste of time.
The fact is it doesn't matter who you say. Someone here will always find a way to discredit them with the most petty of arguments. The ridiculous claim that if someone makes money from researching UFO's they are no longer credible is moronic. In the same vain you could say any band that tours and makes money must write bad music.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Nick Pope

and GEORGE KNAPP

along with Ruben Uriarte (MUFON)

have all been on ATS Live and gave AMAZING interviews (you can listen to them on ATS Live Archive.

ETA (for your listening enjoyment)....

ATS LIVE RADIO: Stanton Friedman

edit on August 18th 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

Have you read Stanton Friedmans book Crash at Corona ?

I think it's in the top 2 of books.

Alien Contact by Timothy Good is #1.

Oh, I forgot: ATS LIVE RADIO: Timothy Good

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Id say Nick Pope as its was his job to investigate UFO's for the UK government so his reports were objective. Plus he does not have a whole bunch of books out to sell on the subject.

edit on 18-8-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Are you serious? Apart from being a sensationalist and ex Gov he's also full of BS.

George Knapp is a credible UFO researcher, he follows facts and reports with integrity, unlike many in the field he doesn't sensationalise of falsify stuff he's a good reliable investigator

Everybody has their point of views, but I dont follow any individual in particular.

Instead I use my own research into this. And the credibility of me is unparallelled because I know my agenda. To find out the truth and to not bother with convincing anyone else what is the truth.

And I dont debate UFO's on ATS because thats a huge waste of time. Its actually hilarious how people are trying to convince eachother left and right, like its essential to get everybody to agree on what a blurry light is.

Originally posted by PrimitiveWorld

Everybody has their point of views, but I dont follow any individual in particular.

Instead I use my own research into this. And the credibility of me is unparallelled because I know my agenda. To find out the truth.

What have you found out so far?

Are the aliens here?

Why are they here? Where are they?

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I dont discuss it on ATS (I added a bit about why in the post above while you replied - you're a quick one. ).

Billy Meier.

He's great!

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If you want a comprehensive list of people who are worth checking out and who to avoid. You might want to look through the following scrapbook.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

However if you don't want to have to download the whole thing. Here's a short-list of people who are worth investigating:



Good luck!

Lots of good information here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And search for Lou Baldin.

Originally posted by lifttheveil

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Id say Nick Pope as its was his job to investigate UFO's for the UK government so his reports were objective. Plus he does not have a whole bunch of books out to sell on the subject.

edit on 18-8-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Are you serious? Apart from being a sensationalist and ex Gov he's also full of BS.

George Knapp is a credible UFO researcher, he follows facts and reports with integrity, unlike many in the field he doesn't sensationalise of falsify stuff he's a good reliable investigator

Nick pope is about as far from a sensationalist as it gets. Apart from his odd comment about the Olympic games im not sure where you came up with that idea.

As far as your comment about being ex government i think that comment is just because he hasn't said that we are definitely being visited by aliens. Ill bet that if he was saying we are being visited by aliens everyone would be saying "Nick Pope has proof we are being visited you know its the truth..hes ex government!!"

I mean look at the evidence no one believes the armed forces when they say theres nothing going on but when Steven Greer did his disclosure project with all the ex-armed forces people the UFO community thought it was the greatest event in history.

Nick Pope has become nothing more than a talking head, who crops up on every damned show to peddle his agenda, which is, Nick Pope. For a start, anyone with a genuine interest in the subject would have made absolutely sure they had a copy of the photograph of the object and the Harrier taken in Scotland and they would have made sure they squirrelled away the Woomera tape before it went missing. Then, when the MOD said, as everyone said they would, "Oh, we've lost it" Pope could then have said, "Oh no, I made sure it was safe by placing it in x".

How anyone can really rate the bloke when, the very evidence virtually every British Ufologist wanted to see, went missing on his watch, I will never know.

As for ex military personnel coming forward. There's a slight difference here, anyone who has done any "serious" research has faced a similar problem. They do talk, they talk loads however, it's nearly always "off the record" and I bet there's hardly a researcher how hasn't had someone tell them one thing to deny it later and often deny having ever talked to the person who is claiming it. There is strong evidence that, some cases were talked up by "insiders" at the behest of the military when they knew there was a simple prosaic explanation all along. You don't need to be a genius to work out quite why. The more public your profile as an investigator becomes, the more likely you are to spend maybe, months chasing up what seems to be a great "story" only to find that, the moment you try and collate it all and present the evidence, the whole thing vanishes like the mirage it always was.

Given my own experience I would guess it is pretty typical. You spend months working on a project and someone takes an interest in making it into a book or a TV show then, as everything seems to be falling into place to make it genuinely worthwhile, a crucial piece of the jigsaw goes missing. Now, I'm sure given how fame works, several people have gone ahead with shows/books, because of the pressure of the people behind them, despite losing and a crucial part of the evidence.

It's a paradox, the better known you become for being a good researcher, the more hoaxers, nutters, disinfo agents you attract and the less likely that people with real tales to tell, from within the military machine, will tell them you.

As it the subject stands right now, you can only ever really rely on your own experience. Yes, loads of great books around worth reading, some great research, others just great fun however, realising it is about your own personal take on it is important. You'll often garner far more knowledge of true interest, from just listening to conversations and being open to others. People who snort loudly and talk about the whole subject as just "hogwash" deny themselves evidence, pretty much their whole life's as simply, people have no reason to take them aside and use that immortal phrase "I've never told anyone else this, not even my family however..."

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That would be us..... Rigel4

Richard Dolan's UFOs & the National Security State 2 volumes were interesting works. Although nowadays, having joined the radio and lecture circuit, his claims of a breakaway civilization and secret space programme leave him as a somewhat dubious researcher.

Dr David Clarke in the UK is a true sceptic,but not a debunker, and did a lot of work to get the UK to release it's MOD UFO files.

George Knapp as many have said. He is by far the best host on Coast to Coast AM and has not lost his journalistic sense of objectivity on any topic.

Forgot to say there are some great posters on ATS such a Gazrok and IsaacKoi who come to mind. I read many of their posts long before I joined ATS. They gave me a great grounding in the subject without the more outlandish but unprovable claims that always seems to accompany the UFO topic.