U.N. Report Declares Internet Access a Human Right

LOL what a load of crap. Considering the internet is saturated by pornography....ya it's a human right.
and I can have porn in 3...2....1....

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Kr0nZ
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I can go down to my local library, or my local coffee shop, hell even my local government bulidings have free WIFI. Having it intsalled in your home is also just a convenience.

The library has to pay. Someone has to pay.

Didn't you get the memo Beez when the government pays - its free!

The government doesn't take money from the taxpayers to fund things they just magic it up and free things appear for us all to enjoy. Want some food the government will magic you some - it’s a human right after all.

No need pay for food ever again it’s a right - I want my food!



Where's! My! HASENPFEFFER!!!"

If its a human right and removing you is a violation does that mean i dont have to pay my verizon bill anymore?

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I like that, free wireless everywhere. No internet bills, our government takes care of it. Sooner or later they will install chipsets into our head with plug in extended memory. We will be able to access the internet with our minds.......Instant Porn on demand We won't need our imagination anymore.

Originally posted by Golf66

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Kr0nZ
reply to post by beezzer

 

I can go down to my local library, or my local coffee shop, hell even my local government bulidings have free WIFI. Having it intsalled in your home is also just a convenience.

The library has to pay. Someone has to pay.

Didn't you get the memo Beez when the government pays - its free!

The government doesn't take money from the taxpayers to fund things they just magic it up and free things appear for us all to enjoy. Want some food the government will magic you some - it’s a human right after all.

No need pay for food ever again it’s a right - I want my food!



Where's! My! HASENPFEFFER!!!"

My bad. I forgot. Free food, free gas, free rent.

Just do me a favour, can the Hasenpfeffer talk, will ya?

My thoughts on this are pretty simple.

1) This is probably a political move based upon any one of the Arab uprisings. This just says "Block your citizens from being able to upload to social media and we'll have a reason to invade." It's basically forced consent to pulling up the drapes and turning on the interior lights of any country - the rest of the world wants to know all is A-OK on the inside.

Off topic a hair... who would have thought thirty or forty years ago when we were spending billions ( maybe trillions ) launching spy cameras into orbit that, one day, it would all be made obsolete by portable phones with cameras in them...

2) Even if this is a pretext for invasion or stern warning to another country there is a valid argument in declaring the Internet a basic human right. One Americans should be fond of.... It's basically ensuring the right of access to information.

Of course we all know the hypocrisy, in the end, is that if you're a strong enough nation you can just let Google know that there are some words that just shouldn't get results... Wink-wink-nudge-nudge. But whatever. Different topic. At least this offers posterity access to the lions share of the words information pool.

And, despite some popular opinions... there is a lot more out there than just dirty pictures and filler. Most days I come across at least one PDF file that I end up saving to my PC and studying later. There is just so much one can learn with a few keystrokes. It's incredible and it's worth protecting for posterity.

There will be differences in interpretations... I did read the article and saw that it said people cannot be disconnected from the Internet - and I fully expect to see the usual "liberal, "socialist", "commie" comments. But I do not see the language as guaranteeing free, uninterrupted service to anybody - I see this as saying that - and this is important to a lot of ATSers... - NO NATION CAN USE ANY MAGIC INTERNET KILL SWITCHES.

THIS is what I see written there.

Maybe this isn't about Youtube and Arab spring after all... Maybe this is about you?

~Heff

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nice and free it will be
for you and me
lets keep it baby


~may all souls be free∞

Originally posted by Hefficide
My thoughts on this are pretty simple.

1) This is probably a political move based upon any one of the Arab uprisings. This just says "Block your citizens from being able to upload to social media and we'll have a reason to invade." It's basically forced consent to pulling up the drapes and turning on the interior lights of any country - the rest of the world wants to know all is A-OK on the inside.

I don't see a scenario like that happening for quite some time. I think that's stretching things a bit.

Off topic a hair... who would have thought thirty or forty years ago when we were spending billions ( maybe trillions ) launching spy cameras into orbit that, one day, it would all be made obsolete by portable phones with cameras in them...

I get your point, but they're still up there, upgraded, and used more by governments and militaries than the private sector. Cell phone cameras can't do half of what those satellites can .

2) Even if this is a pretext for invasion or stern warning to another country there is a valid argument in declaring the Internet a basic human right. One Americans should be fond of.... It's basically ensuring the right of access to information.

Which in turn ensures the jobs of all those in the industry. People can talk about human rights all they want, when you get to the tops of things like businesses and organizations, the less if becomes about all the other people involved on the lower rungs and the more it becomes all about money. Not to sound jaded or anything, but please don't be naive as to think that they actually care about us. They don't. They did what they did for a reason. Money and, to a certain extent, control. I could be wrong here, they might actually have noble intentions and for the sake of it all, I hope they do. I just don't expect that they do.

Of course we all know the hypocrisy, in the end, is that if you're a strong enough nation you can just let Google know that there are some words that just shouldn't get results... Wink-wink-nudge-nudge.

Then we better start getting a one world language going dontcha think?. What you're suggesting would be extremely problematic. What if there's a word of a sexual nature in English that they want banned and there is a Chinese equivalent. How would you ban the Chinese equivalent? They don't have letters, they have characters. Same with the Japanese and Russians. True, I don't think I've ever seen a Russian web site on Googles' top 10, unless you specifically ask for it of course, but the ranking here is beside that point because what you're suggesting is some sort of "blanket ban". Besides which, you need to explain fully why you feel they would want to do that. If you think implementing a one world government would be problematic, try implementing a web network where every single country on the planet is on the same page. Literally. Googles' algorithms aren't going to do that. They weren't designed to.

And, despite some popular opinions... there is a lot more out there than just dirty pictures and filler. Most days I come across at least one PDF file that I end up saving to my PC and studying later. There is just so much one can learn with a few keystrokes. It's incredible and it's worth protecting for posterity.

This is very true Heffcide. Which is kind of why I feel that what the U.N. did is kind of pointless. You can guarantee the internet as a human right all you want, if people don't make the best of it like you do, what's the point? To assure us that we're guaranteed porn and Facebook? If they want to end up being selective with their keywords like you suggested, they they might want to look into taking certain words out that lead to sites that have no educational value. Like, say, porn and Facebook.

I do not see the language as guaranteeing free, uninterrupted service to anybody - I see this as saying that - and this is important to a lot of ATSers... - NO NATION CAN USE ANY MAGIC INTERNET KILL SWITCHES.

I think you're right and, to close it all off, I think the whole thing is rather pointless. It's a law, or mandate, that is ultimately going to be used for political leverage by come country somewhere, thereby killing it's original intent. Most people at the top, most mind you, not all, couldn't keep things simple if their lives depended on it. What we need are more people at the top who not only can, but can see the benefit of it as well.

There are good people at the top making positive choices. What we we need is more, so other people can start seeing those good intentions for what they are. As it stands now, people aren't seeing the good intentions because they're still in the minority.



~Heff

Originally posted by awake1234
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

nice and free it will be
for you and me
lets keep it baby


~may all souls be free∞

Damn Hippies.

I couldn't agree more friend,

I couldn't agree more.