Stargates of Iran.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


But you see the cone and the two circles right? I wonder what it's all about.

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Well it could be a case there of ancient motifs being subliminaly introduced into the modern conciousness, as it was at the begining so shall it be at the end, sort of thing...

reply to post by Kantzveldt

> "I'm saying nothing, though i did post a Vril Damen type representation of Inana..."

To bad - but thats only my opinion I suppose.
There is nothing like THAT - and YOU know it!

A

I wish to thank you for the fascinating and educating,easy to understand threads you often make on the ancient world.May i ask,are you a historian? Always a pleasure to read your threads.

reply to post by VonDoomen


Once I was talking to a Christian friend of mine over facebook. We had a brief argument and I wrote him, "The Devil is your friend. You are confused."

That night I had a very vivid dream. The dream was in technicolor and seemed not just unusually vivid but supra-real. As in the dream was more real than my life.

Anyway I saw a 12-foot minatour speaking to me in quite angry tone. He said, lets get in bed. The sourrounding of the dream seemed like some weird spaceship, definitly felt artificial.

That dream reminded me of an arabian myth that states this world rests on bull's horn, and below the bull is giant whale. All metaphors for aliens or civilizations of a higher dimension in my opinion.

I hope the minatour doesn't come back.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


This is an excellent post. Thank you for sharing. I was wondering if you could briefly explain your general points, beliefs about stargates?

From what I have read, at the top all these pyramid or temples were holy rooms like the holy of holies in the Jewish temple. In this room, men could ascend or their souls could ascend to higher dimensions or the abodes of the Gods. I imagine this process would be similar to what Islamic tradition describes as Muhammad ascending to Heaven in the Temple Mound. That place must be a stargate. The old Gods could alternativly re-incarnate in those rooms.

Now I'm trying to write/research an alternative history timeline or antedilluvian history of this planet.
I had a question for anyone out there: Are the Sumerian gods or Annunaki in any shape releated to the Elohim or west-caannite dietes? I know much of the Bible was copied from Babylonian mythologies.

According to the Lacerta Files. See www.luisprada.com... The Elohim seeded mankind before giving up control to one known as Lucifer. However, this all happened tens of thousands of years before Sumeria.

Who were the Annunaki or Sumerian Gods and how do they relate to Reptillian beings, Elohim and Lucifer?

i agree, its a very cool thread and collection of pics..

Lisa Renee talks about the 10the stargate in Iraq/Iran, and how its is so heavily distorted by the negative aliens..

"Negative Alien Base Headquarters

Because the planet is ready to drop and collapse timelines from the previous 3D cycle, there is a struggle to dominate upcoming events that would influence these future timelines to be solely in Negative Alien controls. These groups have infighting, and the two primary groups have infected their headquartered control mechanism in two major stargates and power vortexes on the planet. Black Suns have headquartered themselves in the 10th Stargate and lodged their technologies in Iraq/Iran and the power spots in Giza, Egypt. Most of them are Dark Angelic E.T.’s sourcing from Fallen Seraphim genetic lines, and this is why they chose that area of the planet, it was easier to invade from the genetic key level. Suns of Belial, the Nibiru-Annunaki reptilians of the NWO crews of the 911 Timeline Agendas, have headquartered themselves in the 11th Stargate of the United Kingdom and Stonehenge. These are the creators of the teeth chomping technology of the Nephilim Reversal Grid (NRG). Comprising primarily of Fallen Elohim genetic lines, this reversal network was a rebellion to the hybridization attempts of Lyran-Elohim races, who were responsible in commissioning Nephilim races for genetic hybridization healing. The failure of that program, the banishment of Nephilim (The Giants) and killing of that race, resulted in Wars, and subsequently, the NRG was placed in the UK to reverse all hybridized genetics, especially any genetic material (like the Krystal DNA Matrix) that was designed to “unify” or “marry” genetics."

www.energeticsynthesis.com...

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Thanks for the link. She seems to be saying that the Sumerian gods where fallen members of the original Elohim. The so-called "watchers" of gnostic lore. She doesn't write in a very fluent manner which makes it difficult to understand or verify if it is from a higher dimension. How do you know her?

There are so many good channeled sources. I had never heard of her. Somebody needs to make an encyclopedia to just organize all the wealth of information. The only ones I really read at this point are
1. Kryon
2. Ra Material
3. Alex Collier

The rest including Shelden Nidle, Barbara Marcinak and rest of them are so vague they are almost useless.

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Lisa Renee is probably the only person i read these days, as she is always spot on with this ascension stuff.. its so hard to read her posts sometimes.. lol.. i have to read them in sections.. the energy coming from her site and her are incredible and light..

ive gone off all those channellers you mentioned.. i was into them all in a big way for a long time too.. i think i just got to the point where i just didnt vibe with it anymore.. Lisa is the only one for me that feels true.. no offence to you, as long as you like them, thats all that matters..

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So what is she talking about above? What is stargate according to her and what is an NRG? I presuming it is some way of bringing in negative energy into this world.

I don't know who but there are many theories about underground cities setup in old Babylonian sites to create fear and war. Apparently these fallen Elohim or Annunaki feed off the negative energy. The US invaded Iraq in order to control these sites because these beings are the true masters of the new world order/freemasonic cults. That would explain why they setup military bases directly on top old of Babylonian ruins. This seems to be a plausible argument. Also if you consider that 9/11 was an occult mega-ritual designed to cause war and fear, this line of thought makes sense.

Yet, I have also read hints from the galactic federation channelers that they were behind US invasion of Iraq. They kept saying we will make strong transmissions to your leaders and that they wanted to free the middle-east from the old ways. George W. Bush kept saying god personally told him to attack Iraq and spread democracy. Kryon keeps referring to ground zero as sacred ground as if it is some vague new benign beginning.

So it seems to me that it could equally be plausible that the galactic federation (read Pleadians) where behind 9/11 and the wars in the middle-east. The might have done it just get revenge of on the old Sumerian gods.

Who does Renee say was behind 9/11?

hi.. oh God, i cant decode Lisa's work for you. (i am sick with the flu at the moment.. sob). im still trying to process her last post.. that one above is from over a year ago..

i think, and so does she, that the US did the 911 attacks, and its linked to these star gates and not losing control over them.. cause things are shifting with the amount of light entering and they (Neg alien agenda) are losing a grip on things they held tight for thousands of years.. distortions are being repaired..

reply to post by Kantzveldt

So - ASAP - as I said in your new thread I went here and read it...
...still reading.

So far I can see that some others, like coredrill for example, have similar queries concerning your work pattern.

But now - with this reply of yours to him...

**What my research has indicated is that if i showed the pattern to the religious representatives of Andean, or Meso-American, or North American, or Sumerian, or Elamite, or South East Asian and many other cultures, they would have been able to provide me with an explanation as to what it represented, that the colours in themselves represented three levels the Underworld for Black, the white the Heavens, the red physical life, the terrestial.


They would also indicate that the motif is the mountain of the Eastern horizon seen facing in opposition to that of the West, that this is a cosmological representation of the world, the red and white mountain is that of the East, the white and black mountain is that of the West, the diagonal/serpentine form is the means of transition, they might also explain how this pattern is best seen repeated to infinity.**

...I begin to see where your coming from.
You should be more "explaining" in your OPs generally.

You don't do that normally, and because you post only a lot of pics (pitifully often without badly needed citations... ...like in the dreadful "Vril Damen" case... ) with some clever remarks on VERY complex "cathedrals of thought (and memory)" you may be misunderstood and get confronted with more "resistance" than necessary on your mission.

I do completely agree with your thinking that you presented here.
Being not new to spiritual work in "the field" this is exactly how it works IF you meet someone with KNOWLEDGE, regardless from what culture he might be.

I'll give you an example of that...

Some years ago a really black man from Nigeria rang at my door.
Now in Germany they were not so common 15 years ago and in a little town.
I didn't advertise my services at that time and worked only for friends and we didn't share a mutual acquaintance - at least none that I knew of at that point.

He spoke French and English and of course we both had our hand and feet.
After some time it got clear that he had been back in his home country for several months to acquire the help of an "Olorisa" because he feared about being "cursed".
His money ran out after 6 months and he had to go back to Germany in the middle of the process and feared for his life and sanity.

The priest sad: "Fear not. I will guide you to someone who will complete our work."
(At least thats what he told me with two languages and hand and feet.)
And that was why he rang at my door.

At that time I didn't know much at all about Africa, naturally Nigeria had pretty women but I didn't know anything about "Aborisha". Nevertheless he insisted that his priest must have been right and so we agreed to work together on a 1 time/weekly basis for a while to see how it would work out.

To my amazement it did - and pretty well too.
After he explained his personal problems and told me what the Olorisa did even if he didn't understand what was done... I SAW (in my mind) what the priest did - I UNDERSTOOD his pattern of work and what he did try to achieve!

That gave me the option to TRANSFER those African patterns into my way of thinking and experience and I could exchange (for example) African herbs with Bach-Flower-Remedies and go in the same direction together with both of them.

After 2 months he considered himself healed and since I haven't seen him again.

So that was that about cultural/spiritual consistencies without direct contact and reoccurring patterns in habits and rituals in different times and places (coredrill's pareidolia objection... ) and their usefulness as a map for the mind...

In some cases - even the presented - he might be right. But to prove your principle suggestion we would have to ask "someone in the know" - unfortunately they are all dead... or are they?

A

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You're right about my infuriating approach, anyone would think i don't want to be properly understood, it's so 'Venusian' in nature...but i'm pretty much done and the bees have accomplished their mission.

Your analogy with regards to the forming of mental/visual thought patterns is also correct, and their potential magical application, in this case it is with regards to the gates of the Heavens and the Underworld, the capacity to open them;



Ishtar on arriving at the gate of the land of no return,
To the gatekeeper thus addressed herself:

"Gatekeeper, ho, open thy gate!
Open thy gate that I may enter!
If thou openest not the gate to let me enter,
I will break the door, I will wrench the lock,
I will smash the door-posts, I will force the doors.
I will bring up the dead to eat the living.
And the dead will outnumber the living."





28 To bring back her worshipper from the grave,
29 No one [but she] is able.
30 To bring the dead to life, to ..[.] the pit(?)
31 No one [but she] is able.
32 To give long life to him that hears her,
33 No one [but she] is able.
34 [ . ] .... [...] to act without realizing it,
35 No one [but she] is able.
36 Ištar controls the [..]. regulations of land and peoples.
37 She has brought everything that exists to completion,
38 Has perfected the rites, has achieved mastery of all things



The reason why the worldwide tradition i have outlined was abandoned is because it is based on the anachronistic world view of the flat Earther, it involves a magical mountain at the worlds edge which leads into the Underworld from an interior cavern, or from which you can enter into the Heavens from the summit, as do the stars and planets, or so it seemed in visual terms.

It was the science of the Greeks that rendered this worldview obselete, and Western civilization that translated and displaced such beleifs around the globe (sadly not the flat magic square...)

So now no one really knows or cares except me, but it's a question of binding agreements, and for old times sake.


(House with a magnificent name), rising mountain of heaven, your holy sides and your great foundation are most precious. Interior full with princely divine powers, a beaming light which shines, shrine with your back to the blue sky and your prominent front to all people, in the Land it represents a binding agreement and a single track. Magnificent river with open mouth gathering together your ...... divine powers, your base is great in awesomeness, a righteous hill grown in a broad place.



....the queen of heaven and earth, the goddess of the numerous me, holy Inana, has brought to Aratta, the mountain of the shining me


Inana, the lady of all the lands, has not run away from the primacy of her city, Aratta, nor has she stolen it for Unug; she has not run away from her E-zagina, nor has she stolen it for the shrine E-ana; she has not run away from the mountain of the shining me, nor has she stolen it for brick-built Kulaba


A pet project i guess.

reply to post by Kantzveldt

Hi Kant.

So we are d'accord on some more thoughts. I appreciate that very much.

Instead I don't think that your approach is very **'Venusian' in nature...** and it may be that you feel you are "pretty much done" - but I assure you that "the (wild) bees" are still working and they produce honey and so much more all the time.

There are places where cakes and candles for the needy are manufactured and provided to them for charity's sake.
And as you can see if you open your eyes and take your head out of the clouds, still much more work lies ahead before 1 could only dream about accomplishing the mission to feed and shelter them until they can make it on their own.

**Your analogy with regards to the forming of mental/visual thought patterns is also correct, and their potential magical application... **

I thank you sooo much for this "positive evaluation". Really.
But as long as you don't do nothing more than quote old scriptures you seem to miss your own point entirely.

**The reason why the worldwide tradition i have outlined was abandoned is because it is based on the anachronistic world view of the flat Earther... **

You couldn't be more wrong on that. The Tradition was NEVER abandoned.
The "flat Earther" as you like to call the first "apprentices" had a common "world view" - and even when they were more intelligent than the "commoners" - there is a "threshold" you have to accept as a friend.

The Stream only went "underground" (and knowledge was transformed and transcribed so radically that you wouldn't recognize it if you saw it muddied in your way - but still efficient and for someone who could READ as useful as ever... ) - as it did several times in written history.
The "problem" here may be that you don't know as much about this subject as you do think you do.

The Tradition survived and is all around you - and right now you live in it's presence.

But if you think that copy and paste jobs will do it - please be my guest...

Oh NO - I shouldn't have said that... you wouldn't feel comfy with that attitude.
So don't even think about it.

It can be that in this life it is not for you because "this time" you choose "A pet project i guess."
That's no reason to be ashamed of - every thing has it's time.

A

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Well, you used a Masonic term there in 'apprentices' so i guess you're refering to the likes of the Rosicrucians and Freemasons when you write of this tradition going underground.


Do i recognise those Jewish and Protestant schemers...no...you're right.


Which isn't to say i'm not aware of how they use and incorporate such symbolism, but rather a case of mutual antipathy.


Oh and regarding that 'threshold'...



www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Kantzveldt

Let me say it with "punkinworks10's" words.

**Another interesting and thought provoking post,... **

REALLY? That's IT?
Wow.

You dare to quote THAT as a reply?

Please carry on and forget about me.

A