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Originally posted by ronnieray123
I can't pick up the signal of a radio station 5 miles from my house. Empty, blank air space....notta.
If i get into my car and get about a block away. I pick it up loud and clear.
As it is on Earth so shall it be in Heaven
Originally posted by aaaiii
I think we may be listening on the wrong freq. We have yet to crack the quantum envelope. I believe once we do we'll find that there are other more efficient ways to communicate and to move through the vastness of space.
In the quantum state we know that a particle can exist in more than one place at a time. Is that not the holy grail of physics we are searching for?
Earth based radio telescopes suffer no ill effects by being inside our atmosphere. That they are in ideal operating conditions
The size of the SETI antenna does not make it immune to the laws of physics as you said.
Originally posted by aaaiii
reply to post by ManFromEurope
To quote a previous poster, what I'm saying is this ~
.....Once we understand the quantum world we will understand how to properly communicate with other civilizations and how to traverse the vast distances of what we perceive as space.
Call it a feeling. Call it intuition. Scoff at it as you do.
We are listening and transmitting on the wrong frequency.
Originally posted by aaaiii
I think we may be listening on the wrong freq. We have yet to crack the quantum envelope. I believe once we do we'll find that there are other more efficient ways to communicate and to move through the vastness of space.
In the quantum state we know that a particle can exist in more than one place at a time. Is that not the holy grail of physics we are searching for?
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Let me start by saying that the SETI program (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) is a total waste of valuable time and resources. It doesn’t matter whether you believe that aliens (if they do exist) come from deep space or another plane of existence. Either way they are going to need a means of communication that works better than radio waves. For communication between the stars ordinary radio waves, which are subject to the same speed limit as light, simply will not do. The nearest star is several light years away. That means that radio or laser based communications would take several years to send a message just one way and double that for an answer. If you believe that the little green men live in an alternate dimension or universe then even if they do use radio waves for communication in their own domain they cannot communicate between dimensions or parallel universes by that method or we would be swamped with their transmissions.
So how do they communicate you ask? And I do have an answer. It might not be the right one but it is one possibility. I propose that they use entangled photons.
Follow this reasoning…
We can send both amplitude (AM) and frequency (FM) modulated signals by radio waves so why can’t we at least send FM signals by entangled photons. I am not sure we could modulate the amplitude of photon entanglement but FM should work just fine once we fully develop the technology. After all we didn’t have the ability to send even simple AM signals when we first invented the telegraph now we have cheap wireless home telephone handsets that operate in the gigahertz frequency range. All we need to do is develop a way to gather a large number of entangled photons and modulate the state change fast enough to simulate a carrier wave like we use in radio. Then we would need a way to detect that modulation and convert it to information. It is probably a daunting task to say the least but that is what was thought of radio before we perfected it.
What are some of the advantages, besides eavesdropping on ET, of such a communication system?
Because it would be instantaneous it would allow real time control of lunar and mars probes. Instead of them being autonomous and on their own for decision making they could be controlled in real time with just a keyboard and a joystick. No more letting them just wander around and get into trouble before an operator could intervene.
But an even more important application would be to place satellites as close to the sun as possible and let them monitor flares and coronal mass ejections. The instantaneous nature of the data received would give us a longer lead time to protect our communications satellites and any astronauts in space.
I doubt that we have the technology right now to accomplish this but the benefits of instant communications from any distance should make it a priority area of study. So what if we have to start off sending Morse code again. We have some brilliant physicists who should be able to find a way to make advances in the new technology just like they did with the old technology we use right now.
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