Huge storms over both poles.

REPORTING FROM SOUTH AFRICA-

The Cape has been freezing the last week or so- Seriously cold but not really unusual- we are known for our crazy weather. There was also snow on the Drakenstein Mountains, it's right on the coast line. Keep in mind, it doesn't snow in South Africa...

BUT

Gauteng has had major snow over the last couple of days, INSANE!

LINK

Things are definitely changing.

reply to post by Tripple_Helix
Now I am beginning to think global warming might be a bad thing.... making things colder.

I'll take my global warming WARM, please.

Still no banana trees growing in my backyard, the disappointment continues.....

Originally posted by murch

Originally posted by magma
The flag total for this thread actually suggests that ignorance is pandemic

0p you already stated your mistake and I too learned something

The problem is no one actually reads posts and listens to people who present facts

Thats what I find amusing. No-one actually reads the thread. Amusing in a dark way.

Perfect example of how people get taken in by MSM.

Maybe mods should let OP's kill their own threads. Would shoot this one like a rabid dog.

edit on 10-8-2012 by murch because: (no reason given)

I think the OP should be able to close down his own thread with a reference to a post within it that answers the question, kind of like an "accepted answer" thing from elsewhere on the internet. this answer post should appear as the next post after the first and clearly marked as "the best" answer for the original post. Discussion could still rage on, but that answer would be the one that fitted best for the OP's original thread?

the way things are now at ATS is outdated and frustrating. it's like a giant soup of conspiracy that smells a bit off. Things could be so much better here, seems the infrastructure is in dire need of an upgrade.

So far on this thread ive read that these storms are being caused by Planet X, HAARP, and pole shifts....aye aye aye

I guess this is why I like ATS, but some people are trying very hard to peg this storm system on a major event, like the ones i listed above...

Here you guys go, this is from the Department of Energy open source database about polar regions and weather.

www.osti.gov...

Here is a short little article just giving a brief description of polar storms

www.nytimes.com...

I am a scientist but let me be clear, not a meteorologist. I will say that weather like all aspects of the ecosystem is a fine balance. Think, if all the deer disappear from a disease, the wolves also starve and disappear as well. This may seem simplistic but the idea holds true for more complex variable models as well.

Considering this year has seen record weather across the world, this really has grabbed my attention. I would hypothesize but can’t support with more than logical intuition that all of the weather seen at higher latitudes would be reflected in the Polar Regions. Further, we know from warming data that the poles are like a canary in a mine in regards to the fact that changes there are much more noticeable and drastic and may be a bell weather for things to come.

I am new here and this is my first post, I look forward to you guys helping me learn to navigate your website.

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I'm not from the southern hemisphere but I herd that there was snow fall in south africa

www.washingtonpost.com... 3c-e092-11e1-8d48-2b1243f34c85_story.html

Thought I'd share what I got from Nasa's Earth Observatory post this morning.
What I got from it is that they don't know...

However, scientists who study extratropical storms emphasize that pinning down how exactly climate change is affecting the size, frequency, or tracks of Arctic storms remains an important but unresolved question. “This past week’s storm was exceptional, and the occurrence of Arctic storms of extreme intensity is a topic deserving closer investigation,” noted Walsh. “With reduced ice cover and warmer sea surfaces, the occurrence of more intense storms is certainly a plausible scenario. The limitation at present is the small sample size of exceptional events, but that may change in the future.”

earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
ID

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www.spaceweather.com...

Current Auroral Oval: Switch to: Europe, USA [North Pole], New Zealand, Antarctica [South Pole]
Credit: NOAA/POES

S@F, just wanted to add if it makes any difference here, in middle mo. we are getting a cold front for the first time since last spring. I love it but it is coming in on the winds from the north which we usually see at the end of Sept not the first week in Aug.

Now the weather for planting has been off by about 6 weeks so this may simply be Sept weather. Warm days around 88-94 and cool nights around 65-72.

This is alarming non the less and worthy of keeping a close watch on.

Now back to the thread as I have not read any experts telling us about this storm on both poles.

Wow reading backwards on this thread I can see how the fearing ones have arrived. Seems anything that takes people out of their cozy little comfort zones and makes them 'think', is far too upsetting and requires hungry packs of like minded individuals whose soul purpose is to distract from the discussion using belittling tactics and keys words like ignorance and conspiracy overload to make themselves feel safer.

This is a RARE occurrence, it is not yet the global inhalation that will bring the population down to numbers listed in the guidestones...

It is however very interesting and worthy of cyber watchmen and forum discussion.

If it scares you, move along! Go shopping or to the movies, whatever helps you unwind.

I have been doing research on these storms and these are some of the largest storm systems in a long time. With all the record setting weather this past year makes me really think where the earth is headed. My opinion is that these storms are being caused by the polar magnetic reverse. It is going to be interesting seeing what effects this will have on weather world wide.

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There was an unseasonal (but not unheard of) storm in the Arctic Ocean.
There was no storm over Antarctica but there were (and are) several quite normal storms in the Southern Ocean surrounding it.

Originally posted by Trueman
We need someone here to tell us if this is normal. It's important. Thanks op for let us know.

this is normal. there, you happy now?

Some Weirdness:

I have been trying make some plots of data sets for both north and south pole weather and have run into a lot of the real time data links being down, could be mainetenace or could we be a bit conpiratorial, hmmm?

www.esrl.noaa.gov...

South pole camera down for winter, you think those cheapsters would get a night vision camera considering you can buy one on amazon and put it up yourself for a few hundredred buck, less than $4000 for gen three which would make it look like daytime down there. I dunno if its just stupidity or if they they downed the feed, someone might have more knowledge on this.

www.esrl.noaa.gov...

There is real time winds, they are not high so my guess is the south pole station is no close enough to the south pole to actually pick up this storm. However, if you have input on why there is a superstorm but winds at the station currently reading 17mph please do post.

weather.noaa.gov...

Telecommunications station in south pole, showing 10mph winds currently. Lol, is this storm government CGI, i dunno.

www.timeanddate.com...

South pole weather two week forcast, all winds under 15 mph

IT APPEARS WE HAVE A STORM THAT MAKES NO WINDS, LOL, I DUNNO, INPUT HERE WOULD BE GOOD

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we live next door, Kansas...
i will say, i have never seen weather here like i have this year or the year before. we have gotten thunderstorms rolling in, lightening, NO RAIN, then hail for about ten minutes and off it goes...i think we had 3 such storms this summer. also we typically have spring and summer storms come from the south/southwest and now, they can come from any direction...in fact one was from the east, very odd for here...and yes the planting season was way off...the trees and flowers bloomed early the heat has been awful and we are in a drought so they say...ive watched how the plants i harvest seem to be about 4 -6 weeks advanced from even 5 yrs ago...i did speak with a local bee keeper recently and he said that bees like to be around alfalfa, but the bees are not making honey for harvest because the farmers are cutting sooner...i know there may be many reasons for this, GMO being one, but the plant life is not in sync with the animal life and vise versa...something is throwing mother nature in all aspects, offline in a huge way all over the globe. seeing this first hand here, makes me think we are in trouble and the subtle signs not seen, will explode in chaos soon...

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Thanks for a voice of reason here , do you have any clue on what is changing our weather patterns ?

reply to post by bluemooone2

In a general way.
It seems the climate may be changing. As to why, most scientists think it has a lot to do with CO2 levels.

Originally posted by Julio
Have no idea if this helps at all, but I live in Vancouver British Columbia and we had a crazy storm the night before last. I have never seen lightning like that or heard thunder like that in my life. Could have just been because it was passing over my head.

Same thing happened that night up here in Prince George man. It's not unusual to get rainstorms with loud thunder and intense lightning, but what I found odd was how sudden it was. It was a beautiful day, hot as hell, not a single breeze, not a cloud in the sky, then BANG. Instant buckets of rain about an hour after sunset, with thunder and lightning every ten seconds or so.

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Phage you are seen on here as a very respectable skeptical, and I to respect your opinions. I'm gonna treat you like a damn human being though, tell me do you really think somethings going on right now? That something big is in the mists? I want your honest thoughts on this because people can deny and deny their bloody hearts out, but look around there's so much wrong, my god we have money for wars, but cant feed the poor. We have mainstream music teaching our children and teens backass morals. Violence is worshiped!

Someone such as yourself is more than intelligent to realize this, and I know like the rest of us you have to deal with everyday tasks (work,family,getting food on the table,etc,etc) but why aren't we all taking a step back and going DAMN WHERE DID WE GO WRONG??!! Phage are you a man of faith? faith in yourself as well as faith in a higher being (god if you will) or do you believe all the science and history we are taught?

This same post can be directed to anyone on here, we're all on this site for a reason, something in our lives brought us here, taught us to question our reality, so is it not time we do something??

I'm so sorry to rant and derail this thread, but my god I am pissed I am so pissed at what we have allowed ourselves to become, how we have been controlled for so long!!

Originally posted by CaptianConspiracy

South pole camera down for winter, you think those cheapsters would get a night vision camera considering you can buy one on amazon and put it up yourself for a few hundredred buck, less than $4000 for gen three which would make it look like daytime down there.

Does it work to temps of -70c?

If so, please post a link!!!!!!