The Missing Link - 93% Evidence?

One missing link! Just one missing link!

And their always will be until a single organisation rules the planet

The missing link will destroy every major religion on the planet. That is why they must wait

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome.

( www.livescience.com... tor.html )

tadpoles vastly change and grow into frogs. Babies grow to become full size humans all in our minute lives.

Yet, I dont understand why people cannot comprehend that humans evolved from apes over many many millenia even though studies show that just 7% of the evidence is missing and peicing together the other 93%.

Even the visual similarities between apes and humans are obvious.

although I cannot say for sure how humans arrived on this planet, I am 93% sure that we evolved from apes.

Thoughts?

Agreed, but I also believe there was manipulation along the way to create "true" humans at some point in time.
Proof of evolution won't destroy religion, it will just make people open their minds to possibilities they've so far refused to consider. There doesn't need to be an evolution vs. creation debate. Evolution WAS creation.

reply to post by toocoolnc

The missing link will destroy every major religion on the planet.

Sorry, I disagree. I suspect you're pleased by the prospect, but how humans came to their final form isn't a question that would destroy my religion. Interesting? Sure. I always love learning new things, but this isn't an atom bomb aimed at religions.

reply to post by toocoolnc


i basically agree as well, the only problem i have with this whole issue is, if the apes evolved into Humans,
why are there still Apes ? Wouldnt the entire Species evolve into the same thing and not just a few of them ?

One thing is clear though, we did not originate from Adam and Eve ! Unless of course those where Aliens
and they created us, with the building blocks from the closest to us which were Apes....

which would explain why there are still apes...because they actually did not evolve, but they just provided the basics for the creation of human kind....

People like to believe that there is something greater than them. Accepting that their religions were manufactured to control them would unravel the minds of many people.
I think it helps them escape the reality that nothing matters. The universe doesn't care about them. And everything they "accomplish" over the course of their lives amounts to a tiny bit of nothing in the grand scheme of things.

If you can see with a wide enough perspective, everything becomes irrelevant. We live on a speck of dust floating through space.

reply to post by toocoolnc

The missing link will destroy every major religion on the planet.

...other than the ones who can accept the idea of theistic evolution?

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome...

...Even the visual similarities between apes and humans are obvious.

I'd imagine that a 2011 Camaro and a 2012 Camaro share a higher percentage than that, and the visual similarities are even more obvious. Yet they share a common creator, and not a single evolutionary source driven by naturalistic processes...

although I cannot say for sure how humans arrived on this planet, I am 93% sure that we evolved from apes.

Thoughts?

Congratulations on your statement of faith?

reply to post by trollz


But I thought evolution goes against creationism?

The creation–evolution controversy (also termed the creation vs. evolution debate or the origins debate) is a recurring cultural, political, and theological dispute, primarily in the United States of America, about the origins of the Earth, humanity, life, and the universe.

The dispute is between those who, despite evidence of common descent, argue for the Abrahamic account of creation as a scientific theory ("Creation Science"), and those who defend the conclusions of modern evolutionary biology, geology, cosmology, and other related fields. Though also present in Europe and elsewhere

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Basel77
reply to post by toocoolnc

 

i basically agree as well, the only problem i have with this whole issue is, if the apes evolved into Humans,
why are there still Apes ? Wouldnt the entire Species evolve into the same thing and not just a few of them ?

Different environmental pressures in disparate geographical areas, among other things. And apes didn't evolve into humans according to evolutionary theory, they merely shared a common ancestor (which, admittedly, would be seen as ape-like).

One thing is clear though, we did not originate from Adam and Eve ! Unless of course those where Aliens and they created us, with the building blocks from the closest to us which were Apes....

Hrm...no? Unless you're merely speculating over specifics. Whether from an evolution or creationist standpoint, all humans share the same parents. The only real difference there is that with evolutionary theory, going much further back, you can include all earthly life in that statement.

which would explain why there are still apes...because they actually did not evolve, but they just provided the basics for the creation of human kind....

*frown* I'm not even a supporter of evolution, but I think you're getting a little silly here. I suppose you might be right, though...

Originally posted by toocoolnc
reply to post by trollz

 

But I thought evolution goes against creationism?

Only against some (primary) strains of it. Quite a few believers strongly subscribe to the idea of 'god' using evolutionary processes in the creation of living creatures.

Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by toocoolnc

 

The missing link will destroy every major religion on the planet.

...other than the ones who can accept the idea of theistic evolution?

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome...

...Even the visual similarities between apes and humans are obvious.

I'd imagine that a 2011 Camaro and a 2012 Camaro share a higher percentage than that, and the visual similarities are even more obvious. Yet they share a common creator, and not a single evolutionary source driven by naturalistic processes...

although I cannot say for sure how humans arrived on this planet, I am 93% sure that we evolved from apes.

Thoughts?

Congratulations on your statement of faith?

That is a profoundly horrible analogy, on so many levels.

How can you compare a provably machine to a living human being?

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Crocodiles still exist.
My take on the Adam and Eve thing is that they (regardless of name) were the first "true" humans... Of course I believe that there were other pre-human beings on the planet at the time of their existence, but that "Adam and Eve" were "modified" so to say to be the beginning of current human beings. Anyone who says neanderthals or any number of other pre-human beings did not exist is ignorant. No, we're not neanderthals, but in a way we came from such pre-human things... Just with a little guided help and modification.

reply to post by raiders247

How can you compare a provably machine to a living human being?

Pretty easily, in my opinion. Human beings are in essence nothing more than biomechanical machines.

Regardless of your offense at the crassness of the analogy, it fits. A high amount of shared material and similar appearance does not an evolutionary process make. Sure, you can look at other factors to lend weight to the theory, but the point still stands.

Originally posted by toocoolnc
One missing link! Just one missing link!

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome.

Thoughts?

edit on 8-8-2012 by toocoolnc because: (no reason given)

Numbers can be really misleading. "One missing link" is a small number.
7% also seems like a small number.
But what you're talking about here is DNA. Let's say that the figure is correct at 93% (scientists used to claim 98.5%, then it was reduced to 95, now it's 93).

If we're talking about a single string of DNA, every single percentage point that you take as a differentiation is equal to 30 MILLION base pairs.

So, 7% = 210,000,000 base differentiations.

That's 210 million. That number is so large that in real terms, it's pretty much incomprehensible. And that's assuming that you've already overcome a number of the other intrinsic points of differentiation between humans and apes... of which there are many.

There is a reason why evolution is still considered to be a theory.
Are elements of evolutionary theory correct? Yes, no doubt. Some aspects of the theory are actually observable, verifiable processes. This, however... isn't one of them.

reply to post by trollz

No, we're not neanderthals, but in a way we came from such pre-human things... Just with a little guided help and modification.

In my opinion, the little guided help and modification was known as "intellect".

Originally posted by toocoolnc

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome.


Thoughts?

edit on 8-8-2012 by toocoolnc because: (no reason given)

Its a myth.
blog.drwile.com...

Originally posted by trollz
reply to post by Basel77

 

Crocodiles still exist.
My take on the Adam and Eve thing is that they (regardless of name) were the first "true" humans... Of course I believe that there were other pre-human beings on the planet at the time of their existence, but that "Adam and Eve" were "modified" so to say to be the beginning of current human beings. Anyone who says neanderthals or any number of other pre-human beings did not exist is ignorant. No, we're not neanderthals, but in a way we came from such pre-human things... Just with a little guided help and modification.

There can't have been two anatomically modern humans. We reached this stage about 200,000 years ago, but it was an extremely gradual process, although our population was small we would have moved forward together. I'm sorry but I don't think you can extract any truth from the Adam and Eve story.

Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by toocoolnc

 

The missing link will destroy every major religion on the planet.

...other than the ones who can accept the idea of theistic evolution?

apes share 93% of the 'letters' that constitute the human genome...

...Even the visual similarities between apes and humans are obvious.

I'd imagine that a 2011 Camaro and a 2012 Camaro share a higher percentage than that, and the visual similarities are even more obvious. Yet they share a common creator, and not a single evolutionary source driven by naturalistic processes...

although I cannot say for sure how humans arrived on this planet, I am 93% sure that we evolved from apes.

Thoughts?

Congratulations on your statement of faith?

i have faith that a higher power guided the evolution on this planet to the point we are at today. does that mean my faith is false or unfounded. no, it means i think for myself. we are all just a piece of something bigger, that is why i believe in the bigger picture.

reply to post by SpearMint


There could have if they were created and/or modified to be that way. People who believe in the ancient aliens theories shouldn't have any issue with this idea. The Adam and Eve story is also in other sources besides the bible... Obviously with different names, but the stories are very similar, so I think there may be some kind of truth to it.

reply to post by DarkSarcasm

i have faith that a higher power guided the evolution on this planet to the point we are at today. does that mean my faith is false or unfounded. no, it means i think for myself. we are all just a piece of something bigger, that is why i believe in the bigger picture.

Fair enough. I've got no problems with the idea of evolution itself, I'm just caught up on what are in my opinion insurmountable obstacles to the idea as it stands given the knowledge we currently have.

As new discovery and our scientific understanding continues to progress, I've no issue with evolution being proven viable. I just can't get behind it at this point - and I begrudge no one for their differing opinions.

Originally posted by toocoolnc
Even the visual similarities between apes and humans are obvious.

The emotional, intellectual and cultural aspects are also similar. The sort that starts riots after sporting events fall into that category!