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Originally posted by ganjoa
p.s. yes I'm an avowed atheist and don't "believe in" the bible - not its' editorialized canonized content - I DO allow the possibility that Jesus was a real person.....
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by ganjoa
p.s. yes I'm an avowed atheist and don't "believe in" the bible - not its' editorialized canonized content - I DO allow the possibility that Jesus was a real person.....
Yeah, even an atheist like myself can get a little behind the teaching of somebody who says that "God" is an incomprehensible concept and you shouldn't let it affect your daily lives, and that while this world is a horror we should at least try to be nice to each other to minimize that horror as much as possible while we're here.
Originally posted by arpgme
Some people like to say that The Gnostics changed things and added their own books, but that doesn't change the fact that The Gospel of Thomas may have been the earliest gospel, although some try to date it as a later date to justify their belief systems...
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by arpgme
Some people like to say that The Gnostics changed things and added their own books, but that doesn't change the fact that The Gospel of Thomas may have been the earliest gospel, although some try to date it as a later date to justify their belief systems...
Actually, the Gospel of Thomas contains some things that likely pre-date the Biblical Gospels, but most of it is Gnostic sayings that reflects a form of Gnostic Christianity that didn't exist prior to the mid Second Century, so it is impossible to have existed in its current form as early as you believe.
Here's a thread that I wrote in 2011 on the problem of Thomas:
Early Christian Heresy: Document Forgery and the Problem of The Gospel of Thomas
Originally posted by wittgenstein
Christ taught about a personal experience of God www.biblegateway.com... . That message was dangerous because it upset the bureaucracy. If God is within and everyone can attain enlightenment then why do we need Popes, Kings, Nobility.....
Therefore Christ's message had to be stamped out.It was replaced by the doctrine of obedience, blind faith in authority and fear of punishment. Christ's message of spiritual liberation became its opposite, the goal became to be the perfect slave.
The Gnostic gospels are the true message of Christ before his message was co-opted and perverted by the elite for their own greedy purposes.edit on 8-8-2012 by wittgenstein because: (no reason given)
It is said that more than 95+ percent of the world's population did not hear we found this new gospel, among 45 other Christian documents in a earthen jar in 1945, where it had lain buried, hidden for nearly 2,000 years in sand, close to Yeshua's country. This indicates other gospels existed alongside those four gospels that were placed in Emperor Constantine's Roman Bible 400 years later, in 381 CE (Common Era).
This Deep Breath exercise can be used to burn out colds, flu, asthma, even cancer and addictions, particularly smoking which actually decreases the benefit of the Holy Breath within our lungs by clogging them up, reducing their effectiveness significantly. By practicing this new spiritual technology, we can burn out the tar and nicotine, as well as other impurities such as heavy metals, smog, pesticides etc., as well as any proclivity to cancer that could be there waiting to rise up.
Originally posted by adjensen
As Blackadder says in that clip… utter crap.